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MR-D-ROB
MR-D-ROB
I disagree. If the man was falsely convicted and has a felony record then that's something different.

However if you have a felony and are having a hard time finding work then my answer is that you shouldn't have gotten a felony in the first place. Now that the person has made bad decsions to get a felony the answer isn't to keep making the same type of bad decsions and we as a community excuse it.

As I said police should be arresting people in a humane and civil manner. However I have absolutely zero sympathy for drug dealers and users. That is a choice that this individual made. There isn't a legit reason to use drugs. There isn't a legit reason to illegally sell drugs.

I care if it stereotypes us. I don't want to work my azz off to be a stand up guy and build a career and good life for myself and my family only for cops to assume that I am a drug dealer and treat me like crap.

We can't just allow the underclass of our race be the face of the community. At some point we have to say that these people deserve to be arrested and if they resist in any matter then they get what they get.
Jay
Jay
MR-D-ROB we can agree to disagree but I feel like your mentality is divorced from the reality we live in. The CIA pumped drugs in the Black community to finance wars and then passed laws to criminalized Black people harshly for using said drugs, and then had police overly patrol our neighborhoods to ensure Black people were arrested.

None of this factors into the factor that prison is a business and that Black people go into prison and work jobs making license plates, federal uniforms, demolishing buildings, and etc for slave wages.

The system is set up so that one minor infraction as a youth for one of us can have life lasting impacts. Meanwhile on the other side of the tracks white kids get caught with cocaine and crystal meth and never even see a day in jail.
MR-D-ROB
MR-D-ROB
Sorry but I can't roll with that bro. We can't just put the excuse on the man. It doesn't matter if they pump drugs into the community. If no one uses them then it has no effect. It took black people deciding to use these drugs to have that effect.

Sure the private prison industry is a business model and it cause black people to be locked up at a high rate. However they can't lock you up unless you break the law first.

I have all the sympathy in the world for a guy like Ozone who did what he had to do to save his life.

Selling drugs is a personal choice. You don't HAVE to sell drugs. You don't HAVE to do drugs. Again I don't care about the CIA pushing drugs into the community. It's as Nancy Reagan said "Just Say No". Don't do the drugs.

I'm not going to make an excuse for these people.

I grew up in a very racist area of the country that had almost no opportunity for young black people. They made it difficult for black students to get into college. Every obstacle that could be put in your way was.

All through high school I kept my grades high and focused on ensuring I graduated. I wasn't focused on chicks and trying to be Mr. Popular (although I was voted Most Likely to Succeed 3 of my 4 years in high school). My 11th grade year I took the ASVAB and tested high. I
went into the military right after high school and did 4 years in the Army.

I took advantage of all my VA benefits got an education, got a home and got a career.

I could have just sold drugs instead I suppose?
Jay
Jay
MR-D-ROB I don't think it's making excuses it's about understanding the problem so that we can recommend the right solution. For instance, someone can be sneezing and you give them an anti-histamine not doing the analysis to see that they're sneezing because they're nose hairs are tickling them.

We have to understand and accept that we are under attack and then move forward accordingly. I feel like you're recommending that we pretend as if we're not under attack and proceed as if this nation is a meritocracy which is not the case and never has been.

The game is rigged and any in-road we find they'll just flip over the table...it's happened time and time again. So my frame of mind is let's understand that they're going to flip the table so let's work so that the table flip has as little impact as possible.

Your line of thinking is acting as if the table flip is not going to happen. So let's say all Black people stop sagging, go to college, get degrees, and start trying to get good jobs. All they have to do is say "Masters are the new Bachelors" and now there is another hurdle in our path. Meanwhile they'll be hiring all types of undocumented and White people with high school diplomas.
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