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Is Tribalism overall still a good thing for Africa?

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I am hoping we have some people on here who are African or African descended directly or knowledgable from the diaspora. Why do I say that? First of all, I see no issue in being from a tribe and having tribal pride. People are tribalistic in various forms. In America, sports and where you are from within the states is a mild form of tribalism. You may be from Alabama and are a hard core 'Bama football team fan as well as you are proud to be from the 'dirty' south for example.

Anyway, it appears that being too loyal to their tribe has hurt the progression of many African countries. I'll use Nigeria as one example. From what I understand (and I open to any corrections) the tribal rivalries and such can run so deep at times that people will only vote for candidates from that tribe even if he is not the best overall candidate. The Yoruba and Ibo don't like it each other usually. And its often not just a thing. We had the east coast vs west coast beef in the '90s but it was never as bad as the violence and social segregation we see in Nigeria. The Hausa-Fulana won't inter marry with anyone else, religion (Islam) being their primary reason but the violence we hear about comes from their area in the north.

Nigeria has about 200 million people is part of OPEC. It has so much oil its part of the biggest oil cartel in the world. A lot of natural resources but are way behind from what their resources suggest they should have. There are tribal issues in other countries to varying degrees of infighting and such. Kenya, with the Kikuyus, Luo, Embu, etc. , South African blacks have always been divided among tribal the Zulu, Sotho, Xhosa, and others.

What are the solutions? Is there even a problem? Meaning its overstated.
 

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    No, not at all. Tribalism is a losing strategy in a world that is ran by race. When your enemy groups you together and attacks you as one, tribalism prevents you from working together. Tribalism will always be here but we need a layer ontop of it e.g. whiteness. We need to turn the microgroups into a coordinated super group.
     

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    Tribalism was what destroyed the Native Americans. They were at war with each other, so much so, it allowed the white Europeans to come in and make deals with the tribes that didn't want to fight and eventually it led to most of them being whipped out. China could easily do this to them if they are not careful!
     

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    I am hoping we have some people on here who are African or African descended directly or knowledgable from the diaspora. Why do I say that? First of all, I see no issue in being from a tribe and having tribal pride. People are tribalistic in various forms. In America, sports and where you are from within the states is a mild form of tribalism. You may be from Alabama and are a hard core 'Bama football team fan as well as you are proud to be from the 'dirty' south for example.

    Anyway, it appears that being too loyal to their tribe has hurt the progression of many African countries. I'll use Nigeria as one example. From what I understand (and I open to any corrections) the tribal rivalries and such can run so deep at times that people will only vote for candidates from that tribe even if he is not the best overall candidate. The Yoruba and Ibo don't like it each other usually. And its often not just a thing. We had the east coast vs west coast beef in the '90s but it was never as bad as the violence and social segregation we see in Nigeria. The Hausa-Fulana won't inter marry with anyone else, religion (Islam) being their primary reason but the violence we hear about comes from their area in the north.

    Nigeria has about 200 million people is part of OPEC. It has so much oil its part of the biggest oil cartel in the world. A lot of natural resources but are way behind from what their resources suggest they should have. There are tribal issues in other countries to varying degrees of infighting and such. Kenya, with the Kikuyus, Luo, Embu, etc. , South African blacks have always been divided among tribal the Zulu, Sotho, Xhosa, and others.

    What are the solutions? Is there even a problem? Meaning its overstated.
    No!!! That is their main problem. That tribe pluckers is known and play on by nations like France, Italy and other white EU nations. Until that is put to bed they will be played on.
     

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    Being proud of your tribe is one thing, but being tribalistic is dangerous because you view someone from across the hill as an enemy and have issues joining with them for a cause that would benefit you both. Of course the history of Africa and colonialism spells this out rinse and repeat time and time again.
     

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    No‼️, since the invention of gunpowder it has proven to be an antiquated social construct. Completely useless in transgressing, what amounts to petty differences, & bonding communities, peoples, & continents(in the case of Africa, Turtle Island,etc., to oppose others whose unified sole objective is to subjugate all of the aforementioned disparate Tribal peoples.
     

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    Speaking of Nigeria, I have few friends down there and according to them, tribalism is one of the biggest problems they are facing in their country right now. A lot of people have been killed and it's even rooted in religious crisis too. Some are calling for the country to be divided and some are calling restructuring of the entire government system.