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2024 And BIDEN/DEMOCRATS And YOUR VOTE

MR-D-ROB

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    For me it is this:

    Other than under Obama 2011-2013 federal employees have always gotten a yearly pay increase. The only question is how much.
    The raises are given as a percentage. From 2014-2019 it was very low; 1% and 1.4% each year respectively. 2023 was the largest raise we have gotten sine the 1980s at 4.6%.

    As of right now Congressional Democrats are proposing an 8.7% increase which is being backed by the AFGE(union for federal employees). Several Democrats in Senate have spoken out for the 8.7% increase as well. At present Biden has officially proposed a 5.2% increase.

    So here is in short how the process plays out for anyone interested: Otherwise you can skip reading this part: between the lines:
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    Congress will pass annual federal pay rate adjustments in an appropriations bill. When this occurs, it is usually done in the Financial Services and General Government appropriations bill.


    While this often happens, there is no legal requirement that a federal employee pay raise be addressed or considered by Congress. In many years, Congress does not pass legislation on the subject.

    FEPCA ( Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act) also established an automatic formula to determine the annual pay raise for federal employees. The FEPCA formula has been ignored by every president since FEPCA was passed in 1990.

    Instead of implementing the FEPCA formula, the president can, and often does, propose an alternative pay raise that ignores the FEPCA formula.

    If the president determines that “because of national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare,” a pay adjustment would be inappropriate based on FEPCA, he can propose a different figure. This frequently happens. It happens regardless of the president’s political party.

    Normally, an alternative pay plan is proposed late in the year.
    What has happened most often in the last several years is that Congress does not pass legislation on the amount of any federal employee pay raise for the next year. When that happens, the president then sets the amount of the raise through an alternative pay plan, usually in late August.

    Of course, if Congress does not like the amount of the raise in the alternative pay plan, it can still pass new legislation determining the final amount. This is most likely to happen during an election year.

    When this process has run its course, typically in late December, the president will issue an Executive Order setting the amount of federal employee pay, by locality, for the next year.
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    Now for those that didn't want to read all of that, in short the president has broad discretion over this matter. Whatever he outs in the executive order will determine the amount of the pay raise.

    In other words if he says okay we'll do the 8.7% increase it will go through other than if Congress passes legislation to override him.

    Generally speaking Republicans have been better on federal employees pay increase:
    • Under Republicans: 4.05%
    • Under Democrats: 3.65%
    So if Biden passes the 8.7% he will get my vote. If he sticks to his guns and goes with only the 5.2% he will not!
     
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    What would Biden and the Democratic party have to do to win your vote in 2024? What policies or legislation would you need to see?
    Obviously we all want reparations but given that it is unlikely going to happen between now and 2024 is there anything else that would sway you?
    Absolutely nothing will change my mind.
     
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    That's not a good starting point. If nothing will change your mind then it gives them no reason to do anything.

    I've all but given up on reparations at this point. We're in a country that hates black people and actually expect them to pay us! Ha,ha,ha,ha!

    There is very little they will do anything for black people other than symbolic nonsense. So at this point I'm looking at other aspects and roles. What could they do for me as a father/husband, Head of household, homeowner, veteran, nurse or federal employee?

    If they can do something elsewhere other than just me being black then I'll be willing to hear them out. I want them to do something for black people. I just don't see it happening because black people keeping voting at 85+% blue no matter who!

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    What would Biden and the Democratic party have to do to win your vote in 2024? What policies or legislation would you need to see?
    Obviously we all want reparations but given that it is unlikely going to happen between now and 2024 is there anything else that would sway you?
    Not a damn thing! Unless those incompetent, corroded, turd of bastards are seriously willing to do, and put into greater action as they have and continuously do the immigrants, Latinos, LGBTQ, and others, then Biden's racist reigning Dementia having ass, Coonmala 'Snagglepuss' Harris, and all the rest of his Barnum-Bailey of a circus administration can be like toilets and flush. Neeeeeext!
     

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    There’s little Biden could do to change my mind, I knew he was going to be bad but I don’t expect him to be this bad. His presidency has devolved into shamelessly bending over for big corporations and the military industrial complex, Biden has sacrificed the American people to them. Even the Fed has admitted that keeping this proxy war in Ukraine hurts our GDP while also increasing inflation, we’re dealing with multiple supply shortages while Biden keeps giving them to Ukraine and Mexico. And if things couldn’t get worse he’s actively pushing for our replacement by comforting illegals.

    Anything short of killing himself won’t earn him my vote, shit voting for Trump might even be the lesser evil as he seemed neutral to FBA and attempted to offer us tangibles in his reelection bid. Biden is actively working to erase us and offering us nothing, so as far as my vote is concerned he gets nothing.
     
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    Absolutely great points. That was exactly my thoughts.
    The only thing I hold against Trump and the Republicans is that they typically don't like federal employees. Even though they have on paper they have given more raises as a percentage that is only because of how trash Obama was. He gave either no raises or only 1% every year he was in office.

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    What would Biden and the Democratic party have to do to win your vote in 2024? What policies or legislation would you need to see?
    Obviously we all want reparations but given that it is unlikely going to happen between now and 2024 is there anything else that would sway you?
    That's easy -the usual. That'll be NOTHING that specifically benefits black people -shout out Kamala Harris 👍🏿