For everyone that wants to say they helped us fight, or helped us create cultures, look at this picture and tell me what you see! #FBA is all I see!!!!
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For everyone that wants to say they helped us fight, or helped us create cultures, look at this picture and tell me what you see! #FBA is all I see!!!!
John_Smauel
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Not saying that other folks haven't helped us at all, not completely agreeing with you on this but there have been folks who weren't black and helped us in the shadows to gain the respect, dignity and value in society as of of what we have today. It's not a lot for some but I'm happy I'm not a slave like my other brothers before me, and the generations before me. What can I say life is lemons, a mix of different experiences. But yeah some will learn to stop saying that they didn't a lot for us and our community, the real heros stayed in the shadows and died fighting our battle for equality and saving us from slavery!
As I understand, this is the chronology. The Civil Rights marches were a purely southern thing in its infancy.
At that time, northern Black newspapers like the Chicago Defender were trying to tell southern blacks to sell everything and move up north. Southern blacks had gotten their land in blood. Yes, many moved up north (The Great Migration) but most stayed because they were part of the soil so to speak.
In the mid 1950s its was southern Blacks. Then northern Blacks. THEN whites , in the '60s mainly, when it was already on TV and when they marched they weren't going to get the same treatment as the first marchers did. Selma was 1965. Whites weren't around in '55, '56 like that. Blacks were taking the heaviest beatings alone.
And those white varied. Catholic priests were very prominent, 54 miles to freedom: Catholics were prominent in 1965 Selma march so were protestant clergy and basic white liberals. Many Jews did march. We have to understand that the Holocaust was very fresh. 1960 is only 15 years after 1945. There were 1000s of Jewish immigrants who still had tattoos from the death camps with their camp ID number on it. By this time, though, the movement was already well underway.
Anyway, what this narrative leaves out was how it was a wide cornucopia of whites. They came SEVERAL YEARS in, when the heavy lifting was already done.
At that time, northern Black newspapers like the Chicago Defender were trying to tell southern blacks to sell everything and move up north. Southern blacks had gotten their land in blood. Yes, many moved up north (The Great Migration) but most stayed because they were part of the soil so to speak.
In the mid 1950s its was southern Blacks. Then northern Blacks. THEN whites , in the '60s mainly, when it was already on TV and when they marched they weren't going to get the same treatment as the first marchers did. Selma was 1965. Whites weren't around in '55, '56 like that. Blacks were taking the heaviest beatings alone.
And those white varied. Catholic priests were very prominent, 54 miles to freedom: Catholics were prominent in 1965 Selma march so were protestant clergy and basic white liberals. Many Jews did march. We have to understand that the Holocaust was very fresh. 1960 is only 15 years after 1945. There were 1000s of Jewish immigrants who still had tattoos from the death camps with their camp ID number on it. By this time, though, the movement was already well underway.
Anyway, what this narrative leaves out was how it was a wide cornucopia of whites. They came SEVERAL YEARS in, when the heavy lifting was already done.
Where are all those Yamahas? I don't see and of those or hook nosed white men with black hats and 2 braids.
Some of them may have been, just not captured or specified in the photo Bro
... I get what you are saying .. my stance has always been this: white illusion don't care if you are FBA , immigrant, PanAfrican born or not ... I get the delineation as far as some not respecting, some thinking they would be entitled, etc ...
To a certain extent, we have to let them be ... They'll find out in due time, ... Some of them, just as f'd, if not even more so ... ... A lot of stuff lingering in their culture that we already progressed past bc of what our ancestors were able to accomplish) ... I feel sorry for them ...
..ijs, we have bigger fish to fry, and I think we get sidetracked on the inconsequential, which sometimes is intentionally created by the same ppl who created COINTELPRO , supported the boule, and tried to drive wedges and start firebombs in our community ...
With that said, there have been contributions ... Stokley Carmichael /Toure ... Was he a contributor (Caribbean descent, I believe) ... Garvey? (I keep saying, no Garvey, no Malcolm or Black Panthers - the militant mindset likely would have emerged, at a later time) ...
Farrakhan? Doesn't he have Caribbean lineage as well?
Understanding that those are men, and all men fail at some point ... Compromised or not, failed or not, FBA or not... You moved the ball down the field a couple yards, got tackled, fumbled, ... They are wins just the same ...
All black contributions count in my book ...
I respect all family perspectives, bc all of them have merit ...
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Whites/others haven't helped blacks since they free'd the slaves and it is speculated the only reason that even happened was because some infighting amongst the white groups, one wanting to piss off the other. Not because they legit felt blacks were equals. Others says it was meant to force black men into the military and the workforce and also "slavery" was losing value overall.
Just my two cents. I am not history buff though.
Just my two cents. I am not history buff though.
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Me neither. Now if we can get rid of the traitors amongst us. Make them disappear.
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There was indeed in fighting since each decision has pros and cons.
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There were a few. One here. One there. Not anywhere near enough to move the needle.
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I think a portion of our people sold their land for much less than what it was worth.
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There is controlled opposition too that must be addressed. I am sure some of our leaders were placed at the top so we can have the illusion of progress.