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The “So-Called WAR” between black men and black women. Part 1

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As I cruise through the online streets of social media all I see at every turn is posts and panels of black men and black women going at each other’s throats. Black men won’t do this, black women won’t do that. So much of the arguments are centered on what we disagree with but very rarely is a discussion had on what we do agree on but that conversation never goes further than “We need to come together”. When I hear this it literally bears no substance. Here is why. Who you agree with is just as important as what you agree on. I mean this in an intimate relationship context. I see panels on youtube and all the conversations revolve around intimate relationships. Out of all the content you watch how many are people are intimately involved with the people they are debating or exchanging perspectives with… only a few.

So what I'm getting at is this while I do believe the discussion needs to be had, I have questions about the people having it. Most if not all of them claim to be single, they all claim to have their shit together, they all claim to be a person of value. So my initial thought is why aren’t these people pairing up, these people are compatible people right… well, obviously not. So I have concluded that “We want what we want and only want it from who we want it from.” This isn’t new but it never gets said. A lot of it comes down to looks. Attractiveness starts with the physical and then we hope everything else falls into place beyond that. This is a problem we all have including myself. In carrying on the conversation the way it's been presented we are pretty much trying petition to someone that doesn’t want us, why they should want us and why they should change for us. Or That person wants us but there are some attributes that we want them to change, and that they should change for us because we think we are worth it. It’s a perpetuating cycle. That doesn’t work. I admit that it's growing more and more difficult for people to find someone who aligns with them. But these general blanketed conversations won't fix the conflict or advance the conversation. When you listen to the conversations had and black men and black women air out their grievances about each other you’ll notice that each of their problems is segmented to a certain category or percentage of men and women. But then they will dip back into that same pool in hopes of finding something different. If you go fishing in a lake full of piranhas at what point do you realize there’s no salmon.

To be continued....
 

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    My thoughts on this subject are pretty simple.

    1. Men/Women (Black) don't see value in each other, at all.

    2. Most of how we act towards each other is learned from our own families (majority of the time)

    3. Society as a whole treats our group like sh*t, which affects the Psyche of all of us. (that includes all of the sh*t white supremacists contribute)

    there's a long road ahead of us if we are going to fix this problem, the trick is getting everyone on code to fix it.
     

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    As I cruise through the online streets of social media all I see at every turn is posts and panels of black men and black women going at each other’s throats. Black men won’t do this, black women won’t do that. So much of the arguments are centered on what we disagree with but very rarely is a discussion had on what we do agree on but that conversation never goes further than “We need to come together”. When I hear this it literally bears no substance. Here is why. Who you agree with is just as important as what you agree on. I mean this in an intimate relationship context. I see panels on youtube and all the conversations revolve around intimate relationships. Out of all the content you watch how many are people are intimately involved with the people they are debating or exchanging perspectives with… only a few.

    So what I'm getting at is this while I do believe the discussion needs to be had, I have questions about the people having it. Most if not all of them claim to be single, they all claim to have their shit together, they all claim to be a person of value. So my initial thought is why aren’t these people pairing up, these people are compatible people right… well, obviously not. So I have concluded that “We want what we want and only want it from who we want it from.” This isn’t new but it never gets said. A lot of it comes down to looks. Attractiveness starts with the physical and then we hope everything else falls into place beyond that. This is a problem we all have including myself. In carrying on the conversation the way it's been presented we are pretty much trying petition to someone that doesn’t want us, why they should want us and why they should change for us. Or That person wants us but there are some attributes that we want them to change, and that they should change for us because we think we are worth it. It’s a perpetuating cycle. That doesn’t work. I admit that it's growing more and more difficult for people to find someone who aligns with them. But these general blanketed conversations won't fix the conflict or advance the conversation. When you listen to the conversations had and black men and black women air out their grievances about each other you’ll notice that each of their problems is segmented to a certain category or percentage of men and women. But then they will dip back into that same pool in hopes of finding something different. If you go fishing in a lake full of piranhas at what point do you realize there’s no salmon.

    To be continued....
    I think when we analyze these situations we have to understand that the village idiot has a mic plugged into the globe. It's not as if we are seeing the world's best and brightest having these discussions, a lot of the time it's the lowest of the low participating. They push their half cocked, asinine, no intellect having ideas with the confidence of Gordon Ramsey with a pan and people take it as fact.

    There are conversations going on, we do have an issue in our community, but the twitter babble is not the definite take on the situation. It is most likely the extreme negative takes on it.
     

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    My thoughts on this subject are pretty simple.

    1. Men/Women (Black) don't see value in each other, at all.

    2. Most of how we act towards each other is learned from our own families (majority of the time)

    3. Society as a whole treats our group like sh*t, which affects the Psyche of all of us. (that includes all of the sh*t white supremacists contribute)

    there's a long road ahead of us if we are going to fix this problem, the trick is getting everyone on code to fix it.
    How is bullet point even true when our marriage rates to one another is over 80%? I can see it applying in dysfunctional situations but across the board? Im not too sure.
     

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    You can't resolve any issue, if you're constantly placing blame, being the victim, NOT owning your part in the situation & being adversarial.
    Something's disagreeable, sit down & have a civil conversation. We're GROWN ASS ADULTS, not children.
    Set the mood. Prepare your partner's favorite meal, dessert, etc. Light some candles & have music softly playing in the background.
    You're not trying to trick them, they might have had a rough time at work. Ambiance changes moods, real talk.
    The troubled one starts the conversation & the other listens, wait your turn.
    Discuss the solution & come to an agreement, problem solved.
    Your significant other just might wanna dance afterwards, to a song that brought back some good thoughts. 🤷🏽‍♀️😁❤
     

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    You can't resolve any issue, if you're constantly placing blame, being the victim, NOT owning your part in the situation & being adversarial.
    Something's disagreeable, sit down & have a civil conversation. We're GROWN ASS ADULTS, not children.
    Set the mood. Prepare your partner's favorite meal, dessert, etc. Light some candles & have music softly playing in the background.
    You're not trying to trick them, they might have had a rough time at work. Ambiance changes moods, real talk.
    The troubled one starts the conversation & the other listens, wait your turn.
    Discuss the solution & come to an agreement, problem solved.
    Your significant other just might wanna dance afterwards, to a song that brought back some good thoughts. 🤷🏽‍♀️😁❤
    It really does not get any more simpler than this. The problem is that a lot of people don't want to talk because it's hard and you have to be vulnerable. Lord knows I've struggled with this at times.
     

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    It really does not get any more simpler than this. The problem is that a lot of people don't want to talk because it's hard and you have to be vulnerable. Lord knows I've struggled with this at times.
    We ALL have sis & it depends on the circumstances. I'm a HOT HEAD, but I'm much more calmer now. 30 years ago, off with your head. 💯
     

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    1. Men/Women (Black) don't see value in each other, at all.

    2. Most of how we act towards each other is learned from our own families (majority of the time)

    3. Society as a whole treats our group like sh*t, which affects the Psyche of all of us. (that includes all of the sh*t white supremacists contribute)
    1 - I have said this for a while. There is a disconnect of respect and value between the sexes. A lot of women get trapped on government funding which replaces the need or desire for a man in the household. This lowers marriage rates big time because marriage = losing that funding which is often needed to support children. I think the government knew this and planned for it because they don't want black people to succeed in this country. They want us at the bottom, hating each other and struggling to make ends meet.

    2 - Preach. It all starts in the home. We learn how to form relationships from our parents and the adults we grow up around. If they aren't setting a strong example of empowerment and love for our people, what do you think happens?

    3 - The big-ticket item right here. We look at how blacks in America are treated and it discourages change. It makes the youth grow to not only resent this country but resent each other. It is a mind trap.

    We need to work on empowering our own, uplifting our people, creating our own support groups and networks so we can help cultivate a strong family unit, empowering morals, and a strength that white supremacist BS can't stop. Lord knows our path was not made easy.
     

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    Unfortunately, We’ve been conditioned by WS for centuries to literally despise ourselves. As a result, we’ve become highly dysfunctional amongst each other; relationships and families. We certainly have spent too much time pointing the finger at one another and playing the blame game as opposed to taking personal accountability. We have to understand the root cause of all our problems - The System of WS. It was once said: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything…” It doesn’t help to vent your emotions on public forums . Blk Men and Blk Women must take the initiative of becoming the best version of their natural selves , mentally; to start. Do not be afraid to take time being to self. Regain total control of yourself. Adapt the ideology of Black Empowerment . At that point , you will begin to practically attract your potential, destined mate ; if that is your will. None of us will rise any higher than another . We already acknowledged the problems . Let’s Focus on the Solutions. Peace Black Power 🖤
     

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    Unfortunately, We’ve been conditioned by WS for centuries to literally despise ourselves. As a result, we’ve become highly dysfunctional amongst each other; relationships and families. We certainly have spent too much time pointing the finger at one another and playing the blame game as opposed to taking personal accountability. We have to understand the root cause of all our problems - The System of WS. It was once said: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything…” It doesn’t help to vent your emotions on public forums . Blk Men and Blk Women must take the initiative of becoming the best version of their natural selves , mentally; to start. Do not be afraid to take time being to self. Regain total control of yourself. Adapt the ideology of Black Empowerment . At that point , you will begin to practically attract your potential, destined mate ; if that is your will. None of us will rise any higher than another . We already acknowledged the problems . Let’s Focus on the Solutions. Peace Black Power 🖤
    This is so factual but I take issue with you saying it does no good to vent on a public forum. There was and is someone who needs to read this post of yours to gain and understanding of our issues and that’s only possible because someone posted. Many people truly do not understand that the chaos and confusion is us responding to the impacts of non-stop White Supremacy and its a shame.
     

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    This is so factual but I take issue with you saying it does no good to vent on a public forum. There was and is someone who needs to read this post of yours to gain and understanding of our issues and that’s only possible because someone posted. Many people truly do not understand that the chaos and confusion is us responding to the impacts of non-stop White Supremacy and its a shame.
    Correct. However, Thats the difference : Stating Facts , Versus Spewing how you are Feeling(Venting)to the public. It’s apparent that we as black people have many issues and unfortunately, they are constantly put on display. Society at large has literally monetized from the optics of our dysfunction; it’s viewed as a form of entertainment(I.e Reality shows, Social Media etc.) It’s even proven historically, through Minstrel Shows. If one of us needs to vent, one should seek a black mental health professional and/or find ways to express their issues in a private space that is free from scrutiny and improper judgement because that only increases ones issues. Write out how you are feeling on paper in journal-form if you have to. One solution to combating WS in this area would be to disconnect from what we typically deem as entertaining ; especially, if it is not created in a constructive manner by us ; for us.
     

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    Correct. However, Thats the difference : Stating Facts , Versus Spewing how you are Feeling(Venting)to the public. It’s apparent that we as black people have many issues and unfortunately, they are constantly put on display. Society at large has literally monetized from the optics of our dysfunction; it’s viewed as a form of entertainment(I.e Reality shows, Social Media etc.) It’s even proven historically, through Minstrel Shows. If one of us needs to vent, one should seek a black mental health professional and/or find ways to express their issues in a private space that is free from scrutiny and improper judgement because that only increases ones issues. Write out how you are feeling on paper in journal-form if you have to. One solution to combating WS in this area would be to disconnect from what we typically deem as entertaining ; especially, if it is not created in a constructive manner by us ; for us.
    Do you not consider this space to be a spot disconnected from WS? I’m not trying to argue but trying to understand how you think. I think having discussion on a curated space like 6ZEROS is different than just lobbing something into the cesspool that is Facebook or twitter.
     

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    Do you not consider this space to be a spot disconnected from WS? I’m not trying to argue but trying to understand how you think. I think having discussion on a curated space like 6ZEROS is different than just lobbing something into the cesspool that is Facebook or twitter.

    I agree with you. 6ZEROS Is A Great Space because it has been Created for Us and by Us and certainly provides the opportunity for discussion amongst ourselves. That is why we are here now. The point I was making is to Not go into just any public space to simply pour out personal issues; so that one won’t become subject to scrutiny, ridicule or otherwise.
     

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    I agree with you. 6ZEROS Is A Great Space because it has been Created for Us and by Us and certainly provides the opportunity for discussion amongst ourselves. That is why we are here now. The point I was making is to Not go into just any public space to simply pour out personal issues; so that one won’t become subject to scrutiny, ridicule or otherwise.
     

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    I agree with you. 6ZEROS Is A Great Space because it has been Created for Us and by Us and certainly provides the opportunity for discussion amongst ourselves. That is why we are here now. The point I was making is to Not go into just any public space to simply pour out personal issues; so that one won’t become subject to scrutiny, ridicule or otherwise.
    This is a good point because wolves will be lurking. It will be the one that doesn't even say anything that will be the one to exploit your issues.
     

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    This is a good point because wolves will be lurking. It will be the one that doesn't even say anything that will be the one to exploit your issues.
    This is a good point because wolves will be lurking. It will be the one that doesn't even say anything that will be the one to exploit your issues.
    This is a good point because wolves will be lurking. It will be the one that doesn't even say anything that will be the one to exploit your issues.
    Exactly. Here is where we change that ✊🏾