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The Haze Of Our Lives · 1/12/22

I can no longer take WS papers seriously. Black Family please watch your kids, they are really trying to sell up on kiddie porn and it’s sick ass habits. WTF
They tried to have this cross dressing punk read to our kids here and that was shut all the way down.

Lamont · 1/12/22

Let's look at this from an objective lens, free from emotion. Let's create two groups:

Group A: Pedophiles who have sexually abused a minor
Group B: Pedophiles who have not sexually abused a minor

Group B needs therapy so that we as a society can prevent them from moving into Group A. But if we stigmatize Group B to the point where they are indistinguishable from Group A, they will never get treatment. They will feel attraction to minors and be unwilling to seek treatment due to fear of backlash. They have to ponder:

Will the therapist report me to the authorities?
Will my family be notified to keep children away from me?
Will I be ostracized?

Not everyone who exhibits these deviant feelings can be saved but the few that can, need to be.

We can't create Catch-22's where if you are attracted to children BUT want help, you're still the same as Group A, it's unproductive and will lead to more of Group A.

However I do take issue with USA Today saying that not all individuals who sexually abuse children are pedophiles. When you begin to muddle the discussion with statements as such, you create blind spots where people can abuse children but claim to not be pedophiles.

Same issue where you have people with penises claiming to not be men.

The Haze Of Our Lives · 1/12/22

Lamont said:
Let's look at this from an objective lens, free from emotion. Let's create two groups:

Group A: Pedophiles who have sexually abused a minor

Group B: Pedophiles who have not sexually abused a minor

Group B needs therapy so that we as a society can prevent them from moving into Group A. But if we stigmatize Group B to the point where they are indistinguishable from Group A, they will never get treatment. They will feel attraction to minors and be unwilling to seek treatment due to fear of backlash. They have to ponder:

Will the therapist report me to the authorities?

Will my family be notified to keep children away from me?

Will I be ostracized?

Not everyone who exhibits these deviant feelings can be saved but the few that can, need to be.

We can't create Catch-22's where if you are attracted to children BUT want help, you're still the same as Group A, it's unproductive and will lead to more of Group A.

However I do take issue with USA Today saying that not all individuals who sexually abuse children are pedophiles. When you begin to muddle the discussion with statements as such, you create blind spots where people can abuse children but claim to not be pedophiles.

Same issue where you have people with penises claiming to not be men.

Outstanding explaining it like that Lamont . Thank you.

Rex Lawrence · 1/12/22

Lamont said:
Let's look at this from an objective lens, free from emotion. Let's create two groups:

Group A: Pedophiles who have sexually abused a minor

Group B: Pedophiles who have not sexually abused a minor

Group B needs therapy so that we as a society can prevent them from moving into Group A. But if we stigmatize Group B to the point where they are indistinguishable from Group A, they will never get treatment. They will feel attraction to minors and be unwilling to seek treatment due to fear of backlash. They have to ponder:

Will the therapist report me to the authorities?

Will my family be notified to keep children away from me?

Will I be ostracized?

Not everyone who exhibits these deviant feelings can be saved but the few that can, need to be.

We can't create Catch-22's where if you are attracted to children BUT want help, you're still the same as Group A, it's unproductive and will lead to more of Group A.

However I do take issue with USA Today saying that not all individuals who sexually abuse children are pedophiles. When you begin to muddle the discussion with statements as such, you create blind spots where people can abuse children but claim to not be pedophiles.

Same issue where you have people with penises claiming to not be men.

Personally, my suggestion would be speedy execution of pedophiles. Perhaps group B would make the necessary changes in their thinking and save themselves.

Lamont · 1/12/22

The Haze Of Our Lives said:
Outstanding explaining it like that Lamont . Thank you.

Thank you.

Rex Lawrence said:
Personally, my suggestion would be speedy execution of pedophiles. Perhaps group B would make the necessary changes in their thinking and save themselves.

So you're stating that Sexual Assault on a minor should be an offense worthy of Capital Punishment and I do not necessarily disagree. In fact, I believe that your post and mine are congruent. But rather than Group B looking to save themselves it is to simply have society help them become better people. What if this attraction stems from some type of biological mishap that is out of their control? It's totally within the realm of possibility. Doesn't make it right but it means that we owe them at least the opportunity to understand and control their impulses.

Rex Lawrence · 1/12/22

Lamont said:
Thank you.

So you're stating that Sexual Assault on a minor should be an offense worthy of Capital Punishment and I do not necessarily disagree. In fact, I believe that your post and mine are congruent. But rather than Group B looking to save themselves it is to simply have society help them become better people. What if this attraction stems from some type of biological mishap that is out of their control? It's totally within the realm of possibility. Doesn't make it right but it means that we owe them at least the opportunity to understand and control their impulses.

Perhaps I am too old and jaded to want society to help pedophiles become better people. I learned my lesson from the experiment to retrain white racists.

There is no gene that makes a person become a pedophile, any more than there is a gene that makes a person become a Hell's Angel.

Jay · 1/12/22

Rex Lawrence said:
Perhaps I am too old and jaded to want society to help pedophiles become better people. I learned my lesson from the experiment to retrain white racists.

There is no gene that makes a person become a pedophile, any more than there is a gene that makes a person become a Hell's Angel.

I understand. This is a civic and social issue so it is something people in those realms need to resolve to wnsure they are serving the populace properly.

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