The Cookout

[Mastamind]

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I'm a casual baseball fan but this sucks man. I didn't know things were this bad.

 

[Jay]

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I'm a casual baseball fan but this sucks man. I didn't know things were this bad.

I wonder what broke down the negotiations.

 

[The Honorable]

It’s a struggle as tried and true as time. The MLB wants more teams and more games and the Players want more money quicker and more flexibility. We’ll see who is going to default on their Ferrari first.


MLB's previous proposal had done little to allay the union's stated concerns over artificial restraints on free agency, tanking, paying players more earlier in their careers and service-time manipulation. The league did offer to remove direct draft-pick compensation -- teams currently are penalized for signing top free agents -- and suggested a draft lottery to disincentivize teams from tanking to get a higher draft position. The proposed lottery would cover only the top three picks. It also raised the competitive-balance-tax threshold past the current $210 million mark to $214 million, far shy of the $245 million the union most recently proposed.

The players did move toward MLB's desire for an expanded postseason with a proposal to move from 10 teams to 12, though it fell short of the 14-team plan the league had proffered. While MLB is not fundamentally opposed to paying players earlier in their careers, its desire to do so while keeping salaries flat remains a problematic sticking point amid discussions that follow years of industry revenue growing and an average salary that stayed steady.


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[Deleted member 191]

It’s a struggle as tried and true as time. The MLB wants more teams and more games and the Players want more money quicker and more flexibility. We’ll see who is going to default on their Ferrari first.

Straight facts. The millionaires are pissed with the billionaires and vice versa. The millionaires want more money because the nature of the game has changed (which it has) and it's upwards of billions being made but, it's not like they can't live off the 30-40M/yr that they make so it's hard to feel bad for folks who just want to be closer to the billionaires. Meanwhile the billionaires want to dip into some semblance of a salary cap. In theory, a cap would be good so that the big market teams like NY and BOS and LA and HOU aren't running roughshod over the smaller market teams who can't compete on that level buuuuuut, the truth is they want a salary cap system that leans their way so they can exploit the system and underpay for labor while pocketing the rest for themselves.

So like Honorable said, whoever get repo'd first will give in first.

 

[The Honorable]

Straight facts. The millionaires are pissed with the billionaires and vice versa. The millionaires want more money because the nature of the game has changed (which it has) and it's upwards of billions being made but, it's not like they can't live off the 30-40M/yr that they make so it's hard to feel bad for folks who just want to be closer to the billionaires. Meanwhile the billionaires want to dip into some semblance of a salary cap. In theory, a cap would be good so that the big market teams like NY and BOS and LA and HOU aren't running roughshod over the smaller market teams who can't compete on that level buuuuuut, the truth is they want a salary cap system that leans their way so they can exploit the system and underpay for labor while pocketing the rest for themselves.

So like Honorable said, whoever get repo'd first will give in first.

Although they are millionaires I can never side with capital against labor it’s just a losing bet for all of us. Not saying you’re doing that just saying in general.

 

[Deleted member 191]

Although they are millionaires I can never side with capital against labor it’s just a losing bet for all of us. Not saying you’re doing that just saying in general.

I feel you and I agree with you totally. But this is also a situation where both sides are trying to pose as if they're trying to do "what's best for the game" when in REAL LIFE, they're just trying to line their own damn pockets at the other side's expense.

 

[The Honorable]

I feel you and I agree with you totally. But this is also a situation where both sides are trying to pose as if they're trying to do "what's best for the game" when in REAL LIFE, they're just trying to line their own damn pockets at the other side's expense.

I agree with that, it’s all about the money with “what’s best for the game” PR tacked on.

 

[Deleted member 231]

Baseball hasn't been the same since they started pushing out all the American Blacks. I don't watch much anymore. Used to coach but got tired of being around all them white kids. Would love to coach a team of Black kids or even play in an all Black men''s league

 

[HeffDawg]

Baseball hasn't been the same since they started pushing out all the American Blacks. I don't watch much anymore. Used to coach but got tired of being around all them white kids. Would love to coach a team of Black kids or even play in an all Black men''s league

It’s like watch paint dry anyways so not that big of a loss