The Cookout

[sourgrapes]

I always see arguments about this online. I see women who demand more of their men. Usually, it deals which money. You know, you need 6 figures, two cars, and a house to date me kind of attitude. Then we have men who will sleep around but be dammed to put a ring on the finger. Some will invest in their careers fully while others just want to coast by.

Do you think the issue with modern relationships deals more with women wanting too much or with men providing too little?

I feel like it is a bit of both. Women want what they see in movies and on TV when that isn't reality. Then men are not valued as much in modern society so many of them feel like there is no point in trying to better themselves, earn more, buy that house, own that car, etc.

 

[Sovereign]

I always see arguments about this online. I see women who demand more of their men. Usually, it deals which money. You know, you need 6 figures, two cars, and a house to date me kind of attitude. Then we have men who will sleep around but be dammed to put a ring on the finger. Some will invest in their careers fully while others just want to coast by.

Do you think the issue with modern relationships deals more with women wanting too much or with men providing too little?

I feel like it is a bit of both. Women want what they see in movies and on TV when that isn't reality. Then men are not valued as much in modern society so many of them feel like there is no point in trying to better themselves, earn more, buy that house, own that car, etc.

It all boils down to reciprocity. There’s women who have these high expectations for men but no expectations for themselves. So men see it as “oh so I need to be built and established but all you need to bring to the table is sex” and that’s the issue.

A woman who holds herself to a standard and epitomizes the solution to a man’s needs is not going to get push back when she has her needs.

 

[Maxwell]

Welcome to the world where more of the ladies are expecting to have whatever they see on the social media in their relationship. It's been a mess for a long time now and it doesn't seem like it's ever going to change. Our mothers weren't like that because they knew the value of relationship and contributing to its survival.

 

[Heatice]

Men have always been seen as the providers and the ladies the receivers in modern relationships. It's something that's been going on for a long time now. Although, I think it's all about how you allowed your relationship to take shape. Before getting into any relationship, I would make it clear that it's not an avenue for me to kill myself providing for you. You have to do your part in it.

 

[Sapphire]

There is nothing wrong with a man being a provider but modern ladies want to be feminists and have the provider at the same time. It makes no damn sense. If you want to be a stay-at-home mother and wife, you need to be willing to care for the nest and the kids and not complain. If you want to be miss independent, don't expect men to want to treat you like your wife material.

 

[Samuelrejoyce]

It all boils down to individuals and their expectations of each other in a relationship. I don't think I will ever feel enough by just demanding from a man and taking care of the home and children. I should be able to work, record some successes out there and contribute to my family.

 

[Danny]

My relationship with anyone would always be a mutual one where we contribute to make our union better for both of us. I would never get into any parasitic relationship all in the name of love.

 

[MR-D-ROB]

I always see arguments about this online. I see women who demand more of their men. Usually, it deals which money. You know, you need 6 figures, two cars, and a house to date me kind of attitude. Then we have men who will sleep around but be dammed to put a ring on the finger. Some will invest in their careers fully while others just want to coast by.

Do you think the issue with modern relationships deals more with women wanting too much or with men providing too little?

I feel like it is a bit of both. Women want what they see in movies and on TV when that isn't reality. Then men are not valued as much in modern society so many of them feel like there is no point in trying to better themselves, earn more, buy that house, own that car, etc.

I agree with you in a sense. You have a lot of these passport bros who would rather go overseas and get women because they won't improve themselves.

On the other hand you have women that have unrealistic expectations. They want a 6 foot tall, athletic built, millionaire that drives a Porsche because they saw that in a movie or TV show. They fail to realize that this isn't the reality for almost anyone.


I don't think a woman wanting a man to have something going, have a good job, have a nice car, have a decent physique and have their own house or apartment. That's all reasonable. The guys who think these women are asking too much and would rather go overseas have a name. Simp

When women start wanting to only date a guy that makes a specific amount or drives a car that costs a certain amount or owns a house worth a certain amount also have a name and that's called a gold digger.

The guys who

 

[Deleted member 1946]

Both

 

[Deleted member 1946]

My relationship with anyone would always be a mutual one where we contribute to make our union better for both of us. I would never get into any parasitic relationship all in the name of love.

Yep. Some people expect the other person to give, give, give.

 

[Deleted member 1946]

There is nothing wrong with a man being a provider but modern ladies want to be feminists and have the provider at the same time. It makes no damn sense. If you want to be a stay-at-home mother and wife, you need to be willing to care for the nest and the kids and not complain. If you want to be miss independent, don't expect men to want to treat you like your wife material.

Well said. As the saying goes, some women want their cake and eat it too.

 

[Deleted member 1946]

Welcome to the world where more of the ladies are expecting to have whatever they see on the social media in their relationship. It's been a mess for a long time now and it doesn't seem like it's ever going to change. Our mothers weren't like that because they knew the value of relationship and contributing to its survival.

Both people must work together.

 

[Deleted member 1946]

I always see arguments about this online. I see women who demand more of their men. Usually, it deals which money. You know, you need 6 figures, two cars, and a house to date me kind of attitude. Then we have men who will sleep around but be dammed to put a ring on the finger. Some will invest in their careers fully while others just want to coast by.

Do you think the issue with modern relationships deals more with women wanting too much or with men providing too little?

I feel like it is a bit of both. Women want what they see in movies and on TV when that isn't reality. Then men are not valued as much in modern society so many of them feel like there is no point in trying to better themselves, earn more, buy that house, own that car, etc.

Both genders have some toxic ways.

 

[Deleted member 1946]

It all boils down to reciprocity. There’s women who have these high expectations for men but no expectations for themselves. So men see it as “oh so I need to be built and established but all you need to bring to the table is sex” and that’s the issue.

A woman who holds herself to a standard and epitomizes the solution to a man’s needs is not going to get push back when she has her needs.

Yep. It must be a give and take relationship.

 

[Deleted member 1946]

Men have always been seen as the providers and the ladies the receivers in modern relationships. It's something that's been going on for a long time now. Although, I think it's all about how you allowed your relationship to take shape. Before getting into any relationship, I would make it clear that it's not an avenue for me to kill myself providing for you. You have to do your part in it.

Especially since everything is going up.

 

[Sapphire]

Recently saw a video of this broken thing attacking her baby's daddy over dating something new cause they split. This heffer dragged him to court and is having him pay over 4k a month in child support and limited him to only seeing his child one day a week. All cause he started dating someone new that has kids.

Like yeah, you need to make sure you take care of your own kids first but this lady bout damn lost her mind cause she was going off on spending that money on herself.

This is the kind of BS that pisses me off so much cause the kids always the ones that suffer cause of their parents' insecurities and immaturity.