The Cookout

[Blackgravity]

I always wondered how South Africa with most of its population being African, how are they not running their country. I mean run it by having the wealth, location and power in South Africa.
I honestly don't believe if we Black Americans outnumbered white people like they do in South Africa, I don't see us sitting around and not taking control of some aspect of the US.
Let's say 300 million people in the United States and only 50 million were white.
Do you really think we would sit back and stay the permanent second class?
I don't. I just don't see it.
I just don't understand why they haven't taken their land back and got them White's off their homeland... At least make it a living hell for them.. Something!

 

[Terrymist]

I just don't understand why they haven't taken their land back and got them White's off their homeland... At least make it a living hell for them.. Something!

Maybe it doesnt bother them to the extent that it should, or we think it should. I would like to think they would rise up and kick wp of the land, but it is taking far too long.

 

[Kanu]

If they tried to take control, the USA and it's european brothers would embargo SA's economy. Other african countries already tried that, it's deeper than just "numbers". Seems like some of y'all watch too many movies.

 

[Jay]

If they tried to take control, the USA and it's european brothers would embargo SA's economy. Other african countries already tried that, it's deeper than just "numbers". Seems like some of y'all watch too many movies.

Or maybe they don’t have defeatist mentalities. You act as if British/European rule is god ordained and insurmountable but we’re literally watching China threaten it in real time. Yea Europeans can embargo but they can only do so much when they depend on Africa for resources. If Africa got on code especially a bloc of nations it would destabilize the whole system. The problem is people are going to die in the transition and no one wants to be that person. So they will settle for slavery over the possibility of dying.

 

[Kanu]

The problem is people are going to die in the transition and no one wants to be that person.

Yes that's human nature. Africans will not unite because they see themselves as different from each other. Things might be different when the dollar crash idk.

 

[Jay]

Yes that's human nature. Africans will not unite because they see themselves as different from each other. Things might be different when the dollar crash idk.

Europeans were smart and invented race to be the glue that binded them altogether. Africans don’t see themselves as one race as you stated and it’s hurt the continent to its core.

 

[Kanu]

Europeans were smart and invented race to be the glue that binded them altogether. Africans don’t see themselves as one race as you stated and it’s hurt the continent to its core.

If the europeans created the concept of race are africans wrong for not following it? Africans for the horn are very different from the ones in the west/south.

 

[Jay]

If the europeans created the concept of race are africans wrong for not following it? Africans for the horn are very different from the ones in the west/south.

Yes they are wrong because they are losing. In war you have to adapt. If you’re a Boxer and your jab doesn’t work you don’t keep throwing it you go with a different strategy.

 

[Kanu]

Yes they are wrong because they are losing. In war you have to adapt. If you’re a Boxer and your jab doesn’t work you don’t keep throwing it you go with a different strategy.

When you're down bad so long it's actually hard to realize you're losing.

 

[Jay]

When you're down bad so long it's actually hard to realize you're losing.

If you're poor in a village and don't know you're losing you're a dumbass.

 

[RCNAL]

What stopped black South Africans from taking over earlier was the same tactics that the European powers used all over Africa to colonize. Play one tribe against the other.

Tribalism played a large part in the Africans being subjugated while being superior numerically. They hated a "rival" tribe more than the whites. If they hated the whites more they'd have united to fight the 'greater' enemy.

 

[The Honorable]

What stopped black South Africans from taking over earlier was the same tactics that the European powers used all over Africa to colonize. Play one tribe against the other.

Tribalism played a large part in the Africans being subjugated while being superior numerically. They hated a "rival" tribe more than the whites. If they hated the whites more they'd have united to fight the 'greater' enemy.

Malema speaks on this quite often. The tribes will bicker with each other all the way to the plantation. He was giving a speech talkinh about how they need to get the land back from the Europeans. Then some idiot stands up and says “you are talking about taking the land from the Europeans but this is our land you took from us”. Malema educated her and told her she needs to see all Black people as her brothers and sisters no matter the tribe.

 

[RCNAL]

Yeah, native Americans figured that out too late. Just like in Africa, they spent hundreds if not thousands of years as rivals and didn't see the bigger threat for what it was. When they finally got 1000s from various tribes together, white boys had too much technology (small pox and alcohol) for them. Had they gotten on code earlier, then they stood a chance.

 

[RCNAL]

If they tried to take control, the USA and it's european brothers would embargo SA's economy. Other african countries already tried that, it's deeper than just "numbers". Seems like some of y'all watch too many movies.

This wouldn't work well if all the sub Saharan countries or the majority got on code and said no. Africa is the only self sustaining continent. Meaning it does not require any other area outside Africa to develop into an industrialized countries.

They should have had the infrastructure to do business among each other from a long time ago. So many things. 1. No foreign control of the land. In the Philippines foreigners can buy air rights (condo) but not land. You gotta be married to a Filipino/Filipina to get that land and its going back to his or her after you are dead anyway. Those kids are Philippine nationals and they can't sell to a non Filipino. Mexico used to (maybe still does) a law where foreigners can't own land. You can lease it for up to 49 years. (so good for retirees). 2. Companies have to partner with a local company. Jamaica and other black Caribbean countries have sold their best, prime beach front and farming soil to foreign companies. In the UAE, Saudi Arabia, if you want to open up a business you need a local partner. They typically do all the visa stuff since they got the local contacts and government contacts. 3. Infrastructure....infrastructure...infrastructure. Korea and Japan post WW2 spent their money on building infrastructure, so did Europe. That this did is 2 things. It gave unskilled and low skilled masses steady, livable wages. Korea and Uganda had similar GNPs in the 60s. Korea spent their money on roads, trains, busses, giving contracts to Korean companies who could do it. You don't need a lot of skill to wear an orange vest and hold a sign that says detour. Pay them the equivalent of a working class wage. That money gets recycled back into the economy. Just like how the Koreatowns and Chinatowns recycle their dollar multiple times before it leaves. Make foreign made goods more expensive with tarrifs. You can get this locally made Ugandan jeans and shirt at this price or that GAP jeans and shirt for 3 or 4 times the price. 4. Brain drain. Korean nationals go to American universities but take that degree and knowledge back to Korea. Nigerians stay in America and England after college. The African nations should make a deal with the smartest students. They'll pay for their degree overseas in the STEM fields. You come back here for a number of years to pay it back. The government should guarantee them a solid middle class income that can build a family. If they don't come back, you don't renew their passport. You better get Uncle Sam or the Union Jack to give you one because you can't use ours anymore.

 

[RCNAL]

This wouldn't work well if all the sub Saharan countries or the majority got on code and said no. Africa is the only self sustaining continent. Meaning it does not require any other area outside Africa to develop into an industrialized countries. Sanctions worked against Mugabe because no one else in Africa supported it.

They should have had the infrastructure to do business among each other from a long time ago. So many things. 1. No foreign control of the land. In the Philippines foreigners can buy air rights (condo) but not land. You gotta be married to a Filipino/Filipina to get that land and its going back to his or her after you are dead anyway. Those kids are Philippine nationals and they can't sell to a non Filipino. Mexico used to (maybe still does) a law where foreigners can't own land. You can lease it for up to 49 years. (so good for retirees). 2. Companies have to partner with a local company. Jamaica and other black Caribbean countries have sold their best, prime beach front and farming soil to foreign companies. In the UAE, Saudi Arabia, if you want to open up a business you need a local partner. They typically do all the visa stuff since they got the local contacts and government contacts. 3. Infrastructure....infrastructure...infrastructure. Korea and Japan post WW2 spent their money on building infrastructure, so did Europe. That this did is 2 things. It gave unskilled and low skilled masses steady, livable wages. Korea and Uganda had similar GNPs in the 60s. Korea spent their money on roads, trains, busses, giving contracts to Korean companies who could do it. You don't need a lot of skill to wear an orange vest and hold a sign that says detour. Pay them the equivalent of a working class wage. That money gets recycled back into the economy. Just like how the Koreatowns and Chinatowns recycle their dollar multiple times before it leaves. Make foreign made goods more expensive with tarrifs. You can get this locally made Ugandan jeans and shirt at this price or that GAP jeans and shirt for 3 or 4 times the price. 4. Brain drain. Korean nationals go to American universities but take that degree and knowledge back to Korea. Nigerians stay in America and England after college. The African nations should make a deal with the smartest students. They'll pay for their degree overseas in the STEM fields. You come back here for a number of years to pay it back. The government should guarantee them a solid middle class income that can build a family. If they don't come back, you don't renew their passport. You better get Uncle Sam or the Union Jack to give you one because you can't use ours anymore.

 

[RCNAL]

...sorry, forgot one more component. If they were really serious, they'd link up with the richest blacks in the world collectively, American blacks. We have more black millionaires than any other nation that has black people. Nigeria is over 5 times the population of blacks in America and America has more black millionaires...so instead of hating, link up. Partnerships with HBCUs for example, HBCU med schools, engineering schools, have graduates work in each others for experience, teaching. etc.

A truly developed nation can make its own large appliances. Fridges, ovens, and ultimately its own cars as well as small arms (guns/rifles). The very, very top makes its own weapons (fighter jets, tanks,) and mass transit (trains, planes, automobiles). Step by step this should be the goal.

Mofos too corrupt and too much tribal rivalry to make it work. My advice for what its worth. Call all the tribes and political parties together (most times its one and the same) and say lets have a 50 year plan / goal. No matter who is in power, this plan is sacrosanct. In 50 years, a 4 lane highway between these cities...as an example. Audit and budget it to avoid corruption. America did that in its rise. America wanted to connect the east and west coast by rail. It took years, different political parties were in the White House. Everyone agreed on it and if you notice neither party took credit.

When America wanted to put a man on the moon. It was a goal from both parties. A Democrat (JFK) made the announcement and a Republican (Nixon) welcomed the astronauts home. Neither party took credit for it. These African nations need such a plan and commitment.

Large scale infrastructure projects like roads and bridges gives jobs to 1000s of men in that country that have no skills and they in turn can start and build stable, viable traditional families. Limit foreign involvement. For skills you don't have and must bring in a foreign company, they can only do so if they have interns learning every aspect of that business. China does this. You can't sell anything in China without them having access to the technology behind it.

 

[Sapphire]

Africa is different. Africans are different. They live in a different world over there. They have to worry about issues dealing with wildlife on a much larger scale than we do in America. Not to mention, many of them live in poverty and are content with it. They are happy with just having food and clean water. One of the reasons though many of them are stuck there is because the white hand is always donating and disrupting their markets. Bill Gates is responsible for killing millions of small native African businesses. How can a family earn money making and selling clothing when you have boatloads of free stuff being shipped to your village every year? I think the reason they don't succeed and hold wealth is partly that they don't care to but mostly because Asians and white people don't want them to. They would be without slave labor. Just think about it.

 

[RCNAL]

Africa is different. Africans are different. They live in a different world over there. They have to worry about issues dealing with wildlife on a much larger scale than we do in America. Not to mention, many of them live in poverty and are content with it. They are happy with just having food and clean water. One of the reasons though many of them are stuck there is because the white hand is always donating and disrupting their markets. Bill Gates is responsible for killing millions of small native African businesses. How can a family earn money making and selling clothing when you have boatloads of free stuff being shipped to your village every year? I think the reason they don't succeed and hold wealth is partly that they don't care to but mostly because Asians and white people don't want them to. They would be without slave labor. Just think about it.

Completely agree white supremacy is at the heart of all of it. They have far, far more advantages over blacks in America. They have their own land, priceless natural resources, their own government. If you can't make it work with all that, its on you. Bottom line is they aren't collectively working together. They gonna stay broke and starving. They giving non African an easy win.

 

[Harbinger]

Yeah, native Americans figured that out too late. Just like in Africa, they spent hundreds if not thousands of years as rivals and didn't see the bigger threat for what it was. When they finally got 1000s from various tribes together, white boys had too much technology (small pox and alcohol) for them. Had they gotten on code earlier, then they stood a chance.

It baffles me how people can be so myopic that they will see a two ton boulder rolling at them but they will not move because they want to finish up their argument about who should have done the dishes. There has to be some self hate or white worship at the heart of it all. It’s as if they believe another Black person will do them wrong but the European never will.

 

[blackice_ATL]

I always wondered how South Africa with most of its population being African, how are they not running their country. I mean run it by having the wealth, location and power in South Africa.
I honestly don't believe if we Black Americans outnumbered white people like they do in South Africa, I don't see us sitting around and not taking control of some aspect of the US.
Let's say 300 million people in the United States and only 50 million were white.
Do you really think we would sit back and stay the permanent second class?
I don't. I just don't see it.
I just don't understand why they haven't taken their land back and got them White's off their homeland... At least make it a living hell for them.. Something!

It's not far-fetched to believe it. Too many black people enjoy living under the authority of WS and can't imagine themselves being in control. We need more than numbers, we need a certain mindset to regain power. After all the atrocities that white people committed, we're still too docile and want to try to work with the enemy for better conditions and not power.
But I sincerely believe one day we will realize the only way to get the power, respect, and wealth we want and deserve will require fighting the enemy and removing them by force.

 

[Sapphire]

Completely agree white supremacy is at the heart of all of it. They have far, far more advantages over blacks in America. They have their own land, priceless natural resources, their own government. If you can't make it work with all that, its on you. Bottom line is they aren't collectively working together. They gonna stay broke and starving. They giving non African an easy win.

Not to mention China has been making BIG moves over there in the last 15 years. Hell, they are doing it here too. Why we letting those sly mf'ers buy our land? Banks won't give out loans to people to buy houses in America but they will allow Chinese people to buy land here without even being citizens!? That shit needs to end. You need to be a business owner or citizen to buy land here, period.

 

[Maxwell]

If they tried to take control, the USA and it's european brothers would embargo SA's economy. Other african countries already tried that, it's deeper than just "numbers". Seems like some of y'all watch too many movies.

If they are self sufficient, there's nothing the damn embargo of all the European countries are going to do that's going to cripple their new government. All I can say is that they are not ready for massive change and they sure as hell have a lot of saboteurs amongst them Black's.