What are you thoughts on the Tutanese "language", would you learn it? Do you think it needs to be reworked, and how could the Tutanese language be reworked to make it more feasible to learn and speak?
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Would you genuinely learn and speak Tutanese
Nope. It's just a distraction to me because if you're off code it doesn't matter what language you speak. So I would rather us focus on moving as a unit and exerting our will first things first. Once we're able to do so and see success the superficial things like languages, customs and courtesies, etc will fall into place. Tutnese is not a replacement or an accelerant for getting on code. my $0.02
I am not going to try and learn but its not because I don't respect it. Not my lane. However, I do applaud the effort. It seems like Tariq is trying different things to build a solid FBA culture. He's throwing things against the wall in hopes of something sticking. Other cultures, ethnic groups have similar things that is already part of them.
Whether it will take off or not remains to be seen, but I think the intent of finding commonalities for blacks to rally around and call our own is a good thing.
Whether it will take off or not remains to be seen, but I think the intent of finding commonalities for blacks to rally around and call our own is a good thing.
Tutanese has nothing to do with Tariq Nasheed, so IDK what he has to do with Tutanese. Tutanese has been around since slavery times to teach enslaved African Americans how to speak English in secret, so that they wouldn't get caught learning it, because if they did, then they would likely be punished for it, because the enslaved peoples were not allowed to know the English language.
And we actually do have our own "solid culture"; I don't quite understand what you're referring to when you say the word "solid". I would like an explanation if you don't mind me asking.
It is good to keep it alive and I hope we pick it up. We have some Tutnese resources on here but only verified can see it.
I think we can do all these things at the same time honestly. And a language definitely strengthen bonds between people of the same ethnic groups; it allows for a more exclusive environment so they can speak amongst their own kin. I think it could help strengthen our community more, but it's definitely not going to fix all our problems (obviously).
But I appreciate your input.
I agree but I feel like the less shiny bells for Black Americans the better. That’s just my $0.02 though. I feel like Tutnese is the awning in front of the window. What good is an awning on a rotted building that’s deteriorating?
If we can’t strengthen our bond speaking English then it’s a fail. Also learning Tut would have some local exclusivity but best believe the government would have proficient speakers who spied on us.
They'd probably look like us, but be totally against us! We'd have to find a wayvto keep traitors out!
I'd truly like to learn & it may be a language we spoke in ancient times. We spoke universal languages, as well as telepathically.
Maybe 'unifying' is a better word than solid. Again, you can unify over anything and again, I'm guessing he's trying different things to unify everyone.
My personal opinion is that learning it is a superficial action. More important is being in lock step with other Black people around you as you already are. But that's not to down anyone wanting to learn the language.
I don't see the big deal in learning it. What's the harm? Is it going to save Black people and give us reparations? Of course not. But I don't see the harm. It's not like its going to take so much time, no one is going to have time to fight white supremacy. In fact, learning it would make you focus on fighting it because you are learning it as bonding thing with other like minded black people.
People take classes to learn pottery, learning Japanese origami or the history of Sanskrit language. Meh...I'm of the opinion pretty much any new learned thing improves you. The degree of which is debatable. If he or others start requiring it, then we can start talking about it in a different way.
We learned pig latin as a kid to talk about things in class so the teacher wouldn't know. I got fine azz, early developed Tammy Robinson's phone number in Miss Besnson's hard azz math class in 4th grade using pig latin.
People take classes to learn pottery, learning Japanese origami or the history of Sanskrit language. Meh...I'm of the opinion pretty much any new learned thing improves you. The degree of which is debatable. If he or others start requiring it, then we can start talking about it in a different way.
We learned pig latin as a kid to talk about things in class so the teacher wouldn't know. I got fine azz, early developed Tammy Robinson's phone number in Miss Besnson's hard azz math class in 4th grade using pig latin.
I would love to learn it...
I would say communicating with your own around people who can't understand is a significant advantage.
I only heard it spoken by one person and it sounded goofy when he spoke. I may have to research a bit more but when he spoke it shit sounded fake. Sounded like he was talking Sims language.
Whether languages sound goofy or not is subjective, alot of languages sound goofy to other people, like English, but It doesn't sound goofy to us because we can actually speak the language, and we don't put much intention into how it sounds, we put more intention into the meaning of the words.
I think the sound of the language is irrelevant. If you have a language that is your own, and you don't want it to fade away, even if it sounds dumb wouldn't you speak it to keep it alive? You're looking at Tutanese with more of an outsiders viewpoint, as if Tutanese has nothing to do with your culture or people.
It's kind of like if a Japanese stopped using the Japanese language in turn for another language becaue they thought "Japanese sounds goofy".
But each their own opinions I guess, thanks for the clarification.
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I understand what you're saying, but these languages have nothing to do with African-Americans.
Also Swahili makes ZERO sense. We are not genetically east African, so Swahili is just a soulless language for African-Americans.
And for Twi, it just seems like a pretty random pick for a language for African-Americans to try to learn.
But, I do agree with you that the fact that Tutanese is entirely an impractical language to use to communicate with other people, becaise the words are too long, and also the reason that it's just a respelling of English words, sort of like the game of piglatin.
But I do think that Tutanese could eventually develop into it's own entity, and become a language with depth, grammar, conjugation, verbs, nouns, etc... That is if it's used long enough to develop into one. It would be kind of how Creole languages form into their own branch of language through time and usage.
I agree, anything we can do to strengthen bonds among our ppl is what's needed ... Whether it's Tutenese, Swahili, etc, we need something ... The current climate has caused is to pull together, but it feels like we hadn't done that in a while ...
We need to be doing multiple things at once, bc we are behind the eight on multiple fronts ... That's just my sentiments though
I would learn it though - just bc learning languages is something that I like to do, ... but for me, I have to have a motivation ... If anyone wants to start a study/dialogue group, I would be down
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I would but need help. I have the PDF in my email that a brotha sent to me last year on twitter. I haven’t been practicing because of other things going on. I will have to familiarize myself again. I could only type the language. Speaking would be very hard rn.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I am very interested in learning the language. I would appreciate you sharing those resources whenever you get the chance.