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People get power. People exercise that power. The degree of which varies. No effing way I'm excusing anything a 'certain' people is doing or does, but its not a surprise.

All around the world it happens. But you know what? We were the exception. When we got power in all the major cities starting with the 'white flight' to the suburbs and we were the ones left in Chicago, Philly, Detroit, where were often 60% or even 70% of the city population, we didn't hammer the other people left, Irish, Jews, Italians, Chinese, with our power. We didn't f*ck with the Little Italies, Chinatowns, etc.

We could have we could have made zoning changes, etc, we didn't.
 
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People get power. People exercise that power. The degree of which varies. No effing way I'm excusing anything a 'certain' people is doing or does, but its not a surprise.

All around the world it happens. But you know what? We were the exception. When we got power in all the major cities starting with the 'white flight' to the suburbs and we were the ones left in Chicago, Philly, Detroit, where were often 60% or even 70% of the city population, we didn't hammer the other people left, Irish, Jews, Italians, Chinese, with our power. We didn't f*ck with the Little Italies, Chinatowns, etc.

We could have we could have made zoning changes, etc, we didn't.
Right. I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy. This is just my opinion, but I think if we truly want to destroy our enemy and create a society of justice, our spirituality needs to be much lower if not on par with theirs when in battle. We're already superior to them genetically so lower levels of spirit may result in an inevitable victory.
 
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Right. I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy. This is just my opinion, but I think if we truly want to destroy our enemy and create a society of justice, our spirituality needs to be much lower if not on par with theirs when in battle. We're already superior to them genetically so lower levels of spirit may result in an inevitable victory.
Personally, I don't see this as a problem. If we can make music about killing and torturing our own people and literally commiting those acts on the streets, why can't we have that same energy for the Dominant Society? I guess it's because we're too afraid to fight those who we see as more powerful than us (which is also what that Brother in the C.O.W.S said about us deifying whiteness) so instead of stepping up to those who run the prison, we target the people that are just as weak if not weaker in terms of our place in this unjust society.
 

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    Right. I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy. This is just my opinion, but I think if we truly want to destroy our enemy and create a society of justice, our spirituality needs to be much lower if not on par with theirs when in battle. We're already superior to them genetically so lower levels of spirit may result in an inevitable victory.
    I don’t think our spirituality needs to be lower, we need to stop acting as if violence and spirituality are antonyms. Defending yourself is spiritual, maintaining you sovereignty is spiritual, providing for your people is spiritual, and if anyone tries to compromise you…their destruction is a spiritual act.

    Black people think spirituality requires pacifism and I think that is the biggest mistake. Nothing about this existence is pacifist and Black people need to understand that.

    • If a Lion is hungry, a Gazelle gotta die today.
    • If there is a big earthquake and some earth crashes into the ocean it might cause a tsunami and the water is going to kill some people.
    • If cold and hot air get together it may cause a vortex and if you in the path you probably gonna die.

    Spirituality IMO asks that we do not bring violence unnecessarily but when it’s time to bring it…BRING THAT ISH!
     
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    Personally, I don't see this as a problem. If we can make music about killing and torturing our own people and literally commiting those acts on the streets, why can't we have that same energy for the Dominant Society? I guess it's because we're too afraid to fight those who we see as more powerful than us (which is also what that Brother in the C.O.W.S said about us deifying whiteness) so instead of stepping up to those who run the prison, we target the people that are just as weak if not weaker in terms of our place in this unjust society.
    ... Another reason why I think this would work is because of the constant oppression that we face, we can channel our hatred for them, further increasing our chances of winning and turning our pain into a superpower of continuous ferocity against them.
     
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    I don’t think our spirituality needs to be lower, we need to stop acting as if violence and spirituality are antonyms. Defending yourself is spiritual, maintaining you sovereignty is spiritual, providing for your people is spiritual, and if anyone tries to compromise you…their destruction is a spiritual act.

    Black people think spirituality requires pacifism and I think that is the biggest mistake. Nothing about this existence is pacifist and Black people need to understand that.

    • If a Lion is hungry, a Gazelle gotta die today.
    • If there is a big earthquake and some earth crashes into the ocean it might cause a tsunami and the water is going to kill some people.
    • If cold and hot air get together it may cause a vortex and if you in the path you probably gonna die.

    Spirituality IMO asks that we do not bring violence unnecessarily but when it’s time to bring it…BRING THAT ISH!
    I guess what I meant to say was 'choice of will' instead of spirituality. I think this is much more important than turning peace to violence and vice versa, like RCNAL implied at the end, there needs to be a strategic threshold of power by creating zones and territories in which we reside, so the white supremacists won't think about going to a predominantly Black area and say to his/herself self or to others 'that's where all the Blacks live let's go shoot it up', he/she will be thinking 'That's where the enemy lives, we can't just run in and kill them, they'll be ready, we won't be welcome to even drive in'. We can't just have an outburst of anger towards them, we need to turn our hate into something constructive and build a formidable kingdom with it. Besides, I don't think you can live spiritually free, like your 'energy can't be touched' and everything's sweet and sunny when in reality, you're on a prison planet and you live on the lowest level. No disrespect but due to the mental, physical and spiritual abuse that we have suffered from them, it's very easy to turn escapism into pure delusion. But... I guess we'll bring it when we're ready to bring it...
     

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    I think this is much more important than turning peace to violence and vice versa, like RCNAL implied at the end, there needs to be a strategic threshold of power by creating zones and territories in which we reside, so the white supremacists won't think about going to a predominantly Black area and say to his/herself self or to others 'that's where all the Blacks live let's go shoot it up', he/she will be thinking 'That's where the enemy lives, we can't just run in and kill them, they'll be ready, we won't be welcome to even drive in'.
    You cannot create this without violence which is my point. The reason Black peoples don’t go onto the white side of town and cause ruckus is because they know the white side of town CAN and WILL bring the violence.

    We can talk about zones, territories, etc and make things super abstract but all that is politics. Politics is an overlay ontop of reality that’s why Britannia can turn into Britain but the land mass be the same land mass for thousands of years. The thing that maintains that political boundary is the willingness to make others respect it and that’s with violence.

    • If you try to enter without following their entry procedure, they will beat you up.
    • If you go into their political territory and violate laws they will beat you up.
    Society is maintain by violence.

    we need to turn our hate into something constructive and build a formidable kingdom with it. Besides, I don't think you can live spiritually free,
    I never advocated hate. I said that violence is a tool and a natural part of our existence. Those that are unwilling to engage in violence will be dominated by those who are.
    you're on a prison planet and you live on the lowest level. No disrespect but due to the mental, physical and spiritual abuse that we have suffered from them, it's very easy to turn escapism into pure delusion.
    What part of what I said was escapism or delusion?
     
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    You cannot create this without violence which is my point. The reason Black peoples don’t go onto the white side of town and cause ruckus is because they know the white side of town CAN and WILL bring the violence.

    We can talk about zones, territories, etc and make things super abstract but all that is politics. Politics is an overlay ontop of reality that’s why Britannia can turn into Britain but the land mass be the same land mass for thousands of years. The thing that maintains that political boundary is the willingness to make others respect it and that’s with violence.

    • If you try to enter without following their entry procedure, they will beat you up.
    • If you go into their political territory and violate laws they will beat you up.
    Society is maintain by violence.
    Yes. And where I went went wrong we don't need a kingdom of hatred becsuse we already live in one and it's falling because of its hatred.
    I never advocated hate. I said that violence is a tool and a natural part of our existence.
    That's fine if you don't advocate hate. It's not something I whole heartedly want to do, but life gives no choice when you've lived inside of it. That's just my agency.
    Those that are unwilling to engage in violence will be dominated by those who are.
    Exactly my point.
    What part of what I said was escapism or delusion?
    I wasn't calling you delusional or an escapist and you didn't say anything that was. I was quoting those who I know about that live like they are spiritually untouched and can go off and live in a world where it's only us and everything's rosy. And I think thats where some of us go wrong.
     

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    Two things worked in conjunction against us in Africa primarily.
    1. We simply didn't have the weapons. The Europeans had far advanced weaponry (guns, cannons) at the time.
    2. Tribalism. Nigeria for example, was never supposed to have the borders it has today. It is artificial. The Hausa/Fula in the north have never seen the Igbo or Yoruba the same. Skin color wasn't a unifying force and is was a conquer and divide strategy that had worked for France and England (native Americans, India,) over and over again.

    Africa could have overcome 1 (weapons) if they overcame the 2nd (tribalism) with numbers. Africa had the numbers but the Yoruba and the Hausa had never gotten along for hundreds of years and both would rather fight alone or cooperate rather than unite against a common enemy. The Indians started doing that but it was after it was too late.

    Anyway, power has almost always been abused when its a whole people having it. As far as anti-semitism labels and if you notice society including non Jews (white folks, etc) go extra hard on us for two reasons.

    First, if they are European/Ashkenazi Jews, they want Judaism to have a white face. If it was all about the religion they would not be treating the Ethiopians, Yemenis and other non white Jews in Israel like sh*t. Don Sterling, former owner of the Clippers said as much in private. NO ONE said anything about that. NO ONE. He said we treat black Jews there like dogs. So, all these white Jews know that. They want Israel to be a white ethno (Jewish) state and you can't make people psychologically accept it if there are non White Jews and if the original prophets are non white, brown or black. There NO WHITE PEOPLE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. NONE. I defy anyone to name one white person as we know it. I am not talking about groups of people that have been given white status. but were not originally accepted as white (Persians, Arabs, Egyptians, etc). I'm talking about white people, Europeans originally accepted as white. Moses was from the line and his wife was a Kushite which is present day Somalia where they are blackety black. (beautiful women by the way). Many other examples.

    Second, whites and other non blacks will take any opportunity to make us the bad guys. We are supposedly more homophobic, more antisemitic, more anything bad so that when the reparations claims come they can do the 'what about?' game. One of the tools of anti-black racism is to take away Blacks victim status.
     

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    Right. I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy. This is just my opinion, but I think if we truly want to destroy our enemy and create a society of justice, our spirituality needs to be much lower if not on par with theirs when in battle. We're already superior to them genetically so lower levels of spirit may result in an inevitable victory.
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    Second, whites and other non blacks will take any opportunity to make us the bad guys. We are supposedly more homophobic, more antisemitic, more anything bad so that when the reparations claims come they can do the 'what about?' game. One of the tools of anti-black racism is to take away Blacks victim status.
    Which is why it's very important for them to shame and guilt trip Black people by telling us to "stop being a victim and having a victim mentality." It makes them just as aroused and gleeful as it makes them angry and resentful to see Black people in a powerless position that they helped put us in. It's like a disturbing, abusive hatefuck that they regularly subject us to.

    Also, look how they are trying to rewrite history to make Black people the face of Asian Hate. Look at this drawing carefully.
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    Recent videos on the so-called Black "Anti-Semitism" Problem:
    Has anyone also noticed how whenever whites (Irish, Jewish, Polish, incels), the LGBT, white women and white men, wealthy non-Blacks, the overweight, Asians, Latinos, or other non-Blacks experience not even 1% of what Black go or have gone through, they play victim and immediately accuse others of racism and bigotry while acting like their entire world is ending?
     

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    IMO its not practical to remain peaceful in the face of relentless aggression. Saying "Im peaceful" has never stopped anyone from getting a beat down. Sometimes the only way with to deal with aggression is to slap back. Without trying to get to religious, what was the Cleansing of the Temple all about?
    Bible Gateway passage: John 2:15-16 - King James Version
    And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

    Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 21:12-13 - King James Version
    And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
    This was a response to blatant disrespect. Suspect behaviour needs to be dealt with.

    Every other group gets to throw their weight around when they feel threatened, but we are made to feel guilty. There is a reason why they are able to go after Kyrie, Kaepernick etc. In general, we dont slap back. This is not to say we need to go looking for fights, far from it. Its to show any attacks/f***ery against us, will be met with a response.
     

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    I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy.
    Its understandable why we wouldnt want to emulate white society and their mentality. It is truly barbaric. If there is no response to their aggression, at what point does us being a peaceful people turn into us being a submissive people? We are not punks, why allow ourselves to be treated as if we are?
     

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    Defending yourself is spiritual, maintaining you sovereignty is spiritual, providing for your people is spiritual, and if anyone tries to compromise you…their destruction is a spiritual act.
    We do as a people need to stop feeling guilty for wanting to stand up for ourselves. Nowhere in nature is hostility met with passivity.
    Black people think spirituality requires pacifism and I think that is the biggest mistake.
    When we get attack by white society, coon-minded negroes will be the first to shout at the rest of us to chill or calm down. What they mean is calm down = dont complain when attacked by white people.
    • If a Lion is hungry, a Gazelle gotta die today.
    This illustrates perfectly my previous point. When a gazelle sees the lion, it knows not to stand around and wait to get merked.

    IMO, violence when used strategically/in self defence is a good thing.
     

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    Also, look how they are trying to rewrite history to make Black people the face of Asian Hate. Look at this drawing carefully.
    Just as important it is to notice the guy on the left, also look at the hands of the Asian guy. Has anyone else noticed something key about that?
     

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    Just as important it is to notice the guy on the left, also look at the hands of the Asian guy. Has anyone else noticed something key about that?
    Something is wrong with that Asian guy's left hand. It almost looks like a demon hand and I do not see his left thumb. What is the key to this?
     

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    Something is wrong with that Asian guy's left hand. It almost looks like a demon hand and I do not see his left thumb. What is the key to this?
    His hands are untied. In hangings, the person being hung has their hands tied behind their backs. To stop any attempts to get free.
     

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    His hands are untied. In hangings, the person being hung has their hands tied behind their backs. To stop any attempts to get free.
    The most they have is drawings of an Asian being hanged while there are countless pictures, stories, and postcards of Black people being lynched with their hands tied while racists claim that these are "suicides."
     

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    The most they have is drawings of an Asian being hanged while there are countless pictures, stories, and postcards of Black people being lynched with their hands tied while racists claim that these are "suicides."
    Exactly that. This is what makes this particular drawing complete BS. Someone wants to lynch the Asian guy, but still give him a chance of escape. The timing of the drawing being put out is noteworthy too.
     

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    Exactly that. This is what makes this particular drawing complete BS. Someone wants to lynch the Asian guy, but still give him a chance of escape. The timing of the drawing being put out is noteworthy too.
    All these non-Blacks are doing everything they can to fabricate and exaggerate their own stories of oppression so that they, like the leeches they are, can latch onto our very real history of oppression (which is still ongoing) so that they can try to eat off our slavery reparations claim or make a bogus reparations claim for themselves. And ironically, they do all of this while continuing to gaslight us and claim that our Black oppression is overblown or "a long time ago."
     

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    When Andrew Yang was asked about the so called Asian Hate Crime epidemic, he said Asians need to fit in better in society. Asian groups, people clapped back immediately. He's no longer invited back to the Chow Mein dinners.
    We don't do that enough.


    Bernie Sanders has been an open critic of how Israel treats Palestinian Arabs.
     

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    Right. I was listening to the C.O.W.S last night (Delectable Negro Part 2) and towards the end a Brother was saying that in Africa, one of the reasons why we couldn't defeat the Whites during colonisation was perhaps because of our 'spirituality being too high' where as the whites were savage, cold-blooded and unforgiving, our hearts were too pure which resulted in us being weak hearted when it came to crushing our enemy. This is just my opinion, but I think if we truly want to destroy our enemy and create a society of justice, our spirituality needs to be much lower if not on par with theirs when in battle. We're already superior to them genetically so lower levels of spirit may result in an inevitable victory.
    Entirely true. That’s why I don’t get too caught up on MSM tryna paint us as “racist”. I just smile and ponder how it must feel for them.