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"You don't have to look Black to be Black".. WHAT THE????!!!!!

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'You don't have to look Black to be Black': The complex racial identity of a tiny Ohio town

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Haha...100s of blacks passed as white pre 60s. The most famous was possibly congressman Adam Clayton Powell of Harlem who I read passed as Italian once
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as well as other white ethnicities. Black is as much cultural and shared experiences and nuanced as anything else.

The one thing I explained once to an African homie I met overseas was that when you see another African, you don't have that shared experience possibly.

However, I could be from Boston and another brotha could be from Phoenix, extremely far corners of America but we can communicate in one look if we are both in St. Louis at a place that is all white. He asked me about the police and if its as bad and I said, I wouldn't even ask another brotha from America that. He asked why? I said, its a given. We all have the same shared experience no matter if we grew up urban, rural, whatever. It's an understood shared thing that we all have gone through as well as other things and that's why we can bond easily even if we meet here in another country and have never visited each other's area.

He didn't quite get it. And that my friend is the difference. It's a beautiful thing in one sense. You can be from completely different backgrounds and lineages but if you grew up in America as a typical black man, you understand each other perfectly.

And its also why we feel the most against those who do the conservative, racism isn't real or important thing like Larry Elder and Candace Owens because we KNOW they are lying and they KNOW they are lying. And if a foreign black tries to say they came to the states and didn't experience it. We KNOW they are lying or at best in denial.

We know that FBA coons/sellouts and off code, anti FBA hating non FBAs are on some bullsh*t. We know to our core they know and are denying a truth. It speaks directly to someone's character.
 

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    'You don't have to look Black to be Black': The complex racial identity of a tiny Ohio town

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    I know some very on code Albinos. I'd trust them and they have come in a time of need and I didnt put out a bulletin but they are 24/7 down.
     

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    Haha...100s of blacks passed as white pre 60s. The most famous was possibly congressman Adam Clayton Powell of Harlem who I read passed as Italian once
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    as well as other white ethnicities. Black is as much cultural and shared experiences and nuanced as anything else.

    The one thing I explained once to an African homie I met overseas was that when you see another African, you don't have that shared experience possibly.

    However, I could be from Boston and another brotha could be from Phoenix, extremely far corners of America but we can communicate in one look if we are both in St. Louis at a place that is all white. He asked me about the police and if its as bad and I said, I wouldn't even ask another brotha from America that. He asked why? I said, its a given. We all have the same shared experience no matter if we grew up urban, rural, whatever. It's an understood shared thing that we all have gone through as well as other things and that's why we can bond easily even if we meet here in another country and have never visited each other's area.

    He didn't quite get it. And that my friend is the difference. It's a beautiful thing in one sense. You can be from completely different backgrounds and lineages but if you grew up in America as a typical black man, you understand each other perfectly.

    And its also why we feel the most against those who do the conservative, racism isn't real or important thing like Larry Elder and Candace Owens because we KNOW they are lying and they KNOW they are lying. And if a foreign black tries to say they came to the states and didn't experience it. We KNOW they are lying or at best in denial.

    We know that FBA coons/sellouts and off code, anti FBA hating non FBAs are on some bullsh*t. We know to our core they know and are denying a truth. It speaks directly to someone's character.
    My granny passed and got a job as a elevator girl in a Birmingham AL department store from 1944 to 1948. She was 14 at the time and worked that job until she was picked up by her older darker sister in the family car, something that was looked down on "black women driving" She was fired on the spot.
     

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    Another passing as white.

    There was also a white man pre Civil Rights who went in the south and passed as Black. And what he faced.

    Further proof the Candace Owens, Thomas Sowell's and others who deny or weaken the impact of racism, I've met progressive whites from other countries, one of them a Persian girl who looks white (they kinda are anyway), British, dates only black men, did a year abroad at UC Santa Barbara.

    She said in London she's middle eastern, but in America she was white and she was shocked and dismayed at just how casual racist remarks were among Americans of all levels. She said she never wanted to visit America again and would never date a white American...ever.....after that experience.

    Blacks who pass as white don't say enough of the racism they hear and see. Not even saying they gotta out themselves but even write anonymously. Passing isn't much of an issue these days. But the Tate brothers passed as white. And I suspect a fair number of blacks move out of their area and pass as white by not admitting anything about their parents and keeping their social media of family, etc, sanitized of blackness.
     
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    Until James Brown’s I’m Black and I’m proud , light skinned folks ruled in the a black community; had all kinds of privileges, everyone wanted to be lighter. After that they shut up. Many started marrying outside their inbred circles and even married the darkest person they could find to show that they were hip. (Usually African or Carribean. Too much history with FBA)
    My generation has very little tolerance for light skin folks’ problems. And zero tolerance for those who chose to pass instead toughing it out with the rest of us.
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    Another passing as white.

    There was also a white man pre Civil Rights who went in the south and passed as Black. And what he faced.

    Further proof the Candace Owens, Thomas Sowell's and others who deny or weaken the impact of racism, I've met progressive whites from other countries, one of them a Persian girl who looks white (they kinda are anyway), British, dates only black men, did a year abroad at UC Santa Barbara.

    She said in London she's middle eastern, but in America she was white and she was shocked and dismayed at just how casual racist remarks were among Americans of all levels. She said she never wanted to visit America again and would never date a white American...ever.....after that experience.

    Blacks who pass as white don't say enough of the racism they hear and see. Not even saying they gotta out themselves but even write anonymously. Passing isn't much of an issue these days. But the Tate brothers passed as white. And I suspect a fair number of blacks move out of their area and pass as white by not admitting anything about their parents and keeping their social media of family, etc, sanitized of blackness.
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    In our parents day, mixed / biracial was Black. White people really did a good job in confusing things. With the rise of kids of black and white parents, they did the French colonial/slavery thing and said 'Y'all different' and created 'Creole' out of it as a buffer class. That's what this 'Biracial' thing is. Older mixed people were always Black. White society reminded them they were black. Lenny Kravitz has a white Jewish father but was always known as a black singer. Halle Berry has a white mother and was always seen as a Black actress early on.

    I'm a little sad to hear black folks telling half black people they aren't black (in the video below). Here is the trip thing. We claim any great historical figure with a drop of black blood as black, even if they have a white parent: Queen Charlotte. Alexandre Dumas. Frederic Douglas. Bob Marley.

     
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    Are people who are 25% Black, Black?
    (Example: the woman in the video, Drake's son, Diana Ross's grandchildren, Vernon Dahmer).

    25% Black = people who had 1 Black grandparent and 3 non-grandparents, which also means having 1 Biracial Black parent and 1 non-Black parent.

    I can acknowledge that times were different back then and anyone who were 25% Black could (or be pressured to) identify as Black and live as Black both with or without lighter skinned privileges.

    To be honest, if you are 25% Black and were born during the time that the one-drop rule was still in effect and identified as Black for the majority of your life (examples: the woman in the video I posted, Vernon Dahmer), then maybe an extremely special exception could be made strictly for this instance in regards to reparations for Black DOACS.

    However, if you were born after 1967 when the one drop rule ended and are 25% Black, then you are not Black and cannot identify as such unless you come from a multi-generationally mixed Black family were everyone has been identifying as Black. It should also be required that all people who identify as Black have Black/Colored/Negro/African-American or Mixed (for Black Biracial people) on your birth certificate.


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    The one-drop rule is a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of "black blood")[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]

    This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century.[4] It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness"[5] that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy.