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    Isn't he gay in real life?
    if he is?
    I just don't like the agenda they push with this Black face always in the forefront, most of the Agenda is targeted towards Blacks, why?
     

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    I have no issues with what people do with their own bodies, my issue is when you try to force everyone else around you to participate in your choice. A lot like them "bible thumpers" back in the 80's, aggressive Christians I'd see getting off the bus to go to school, telling people they are going to hell if they don't do what they say ect.
    I have no issue with religion, as long as you keep it to yourself and respect other peoples views and belief's. just like your sexual choice respect your choice but I wont participate in it, if I see that you are clearly a man, I'm going to address you as such. period. Don't make me change how I see and address nature because you want me to.
     

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    if he is?
    I just don't like the agenda they push with this Black face always in the forefront, most of the Agenda is targeted towards Blacks, why?

    Most of the agenda is no more targeted towards black folk than it is any other group.

    Question, I don't read comic books, but is the character he's based on gay?
     

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    They have their GD agenda everywhere and I'm tired of their BS and def the media. They even put a gay sex in a hot tub scene in the game Mafia III, I have not played it since.
    I've played a couple of hours, the main character is gay?
     
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    Most of the agenda is no more targeted towards black folk than it is any other group.

    Question, I don't read comic books, but is the character he's based on gay?
    This agenda is definitely targeted towards black people especially. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see us in the movie. When they use us for something, it's not by mistake. The most certainly want to us black men to promote homosexuality. Black women too. Most black interactions with white people include white people trying to get something from that black person. They don't do anything without a reason. Black people go through life with no intentions or plans, but that doesn't mean that white people do. Beware of every interaction 😃
     
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    At the end of the day nobody is forcing people to watch hollywood movies. There's plenty of independent black movie makers out there.
    No one forces us to drive, go to college, or have family dinners either. But let's be real, it's part of our culture and lifestyle. They shouldn't slip trash in. We do need to support black media, which also has its problems. They're not far removed from the dominant cultures agenda. If they were, they wouldn't exist, not without warfare.
     
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    I have no issues with what people do with their own bodies, my issue is when you try to force everyone else around you to participate in your choice. A lot like them "bible thumpers" back in the 80's, aggressive Christians I'd see getting off the bus to go to school, telling people they are going to hell if they don't do what they say ect.
    I have no issue with religion, as long as you keep it to yourself and respect other peoples views and belief's. just like your sexual choice respect your choice but I wont participate in it, if I see that you are clearly a man, I'm going to address you as such. period. Don't make me change how I see and address nature because you want me to.
    Black gay people need to understand that the gay agenda is not so much about who is really gay or not. It's about making the face of gay black people. No one really cares about gay people. They've always been here in the west. This is about forcing black people to accept homosexuality as a passtime. That black men don't need to be leading families, they need to be chasing love from other men.

    They will have a black gay superhero article on one page and then the next page will be an article about how black people are homophobic but have diseases from gay sex but black men have all of these kids even though they are on the DL but then they are interracially dating but black people are the most racist but black women go to college more and raise kids alone because black men are in prison and are the most gay but hurt transwomen because they didn't have fathers. It's all trash.
     

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    Black gay people need to understand that the gay agenda is not so much about who is really gay or not. It's about making the face of gay black people. No one really cares about gay people. They've always been here in the west. This is about forcing black people to accept homosexuality as a passtime. That black men don't need to be leading families, they need to be chasing love from other men.

    They will have a black gay superhero article on one page and then the next page will be an article about how black people are homophobic but have diseases from gay sex but black men have all of these kids even though they are on the DL but then they are interracially dating but black people are the most racist but black women go to college more and raise kids alone because black men are in prison and are the most gay but hurt transwomen because they didn't have fathers. It's all trash.
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    Powerful posting here!
     

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    The Agenda is real...
    Black gay people need to understand that the gay agenda is not so much about who is really gay or not. It's about making the face of gay black people. No one really cares about gay people. They've always been here in the west. This is about forcing black people to accept homosexuality as a passtime. That black men don't need to be leading families, they need to be chasing love from other men.
    But is it working, though? Is the threat perceived or actual?
     
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    But is it working, though? Is the threat perceived or actual?
    Yes in my opinion is working. It's part of a multi-faceted agenda of confusion, so we can't focus on white supremacy. The gay agenda is one part of it. Other parts include, crime, drugs, prison, educating, housing plus more. And it's all accompanied by good ole individualized racism that we each experience in our daily interactions with the rest of society.

    The threat comes a masculinizing women. That means that she needs no protection from men. It means she is not desired, therefore, not protected, therefore worthless and the children she bares are simply accidents or just products of animal sex, and not a family with a mother and father who love and protect them. It also creates the image and then reality that women do not need men, which is not true.

    The threat is on emasculating black men. Which means that they are incapable of defending women and children. It renders men frivolous and sex driven, having no boundaries or control. It means that you care about laying with men more than creating and protecting communities. It makes black men appear weak, and misdirected. Sexuality is not important. Being functioning men and women is what's important.
     

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    I've played a couple of hours, the main character is gay?
    No the main character isn't gay nor was he the one in the hot tub, it was two white men...sickening. I have a big problem with that kind of crap being in the middle of a video game.
     

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    This agenda is definitely targeted towards black people especially. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see us in the movie. When they use us for something, it's not by mistake. The most certainly want to us black men to promote homosexuality. Black women too. Most black interactions with white people include white people trying to get something from that black person. They don't do anything without a reason. Black people go through life with no intentions or plans, but that doesn't mean that white people do. Beware of every interaction 😃
    And they are doing this because we are 13% for the past 4 decades??? Family? THAT has to be the biggest lie these Pinkertons have told us. The planned parenthood wasn't working fast enough plus many of "them" are also using the services there.
     
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    For me, the issue isn't gay Black people. James Baldwin was gay, but he was thorough.
    My main concern is the public emasculation of the Black male image. Most of the time I see a gay Black man on tv, he looks like this: funky-dineva-thatgrapejuice-blue-ivy.jpg

    Meanwhile, his white boyfriend will look like this: 6962892_1523458207137_jpeg3e28f996afc606a7b5f363b823904366.jpeg
    Why must the Black man always be the limp-wristed, feminine, lip-smacking bussy boy?
    That's the toxic image being fed to our children, and it's sickening!
     

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    For me, the issue isn't gay Black people. James Baldwin was gay, but he was thorough.
    My main concern is the public emasculation of the Black male image. Most of the time I see a gay Black man on tv, he looks like this: View attachment 526

    Meanwhile, his white boyfriend will look like this: View attachment 527
    Why must the Black man always be the limp-wristed, feminine, lip-smacking bussy boy?
    That's the toxic image being fed to our children, and it's sickening!
    Jackpot!!!
     

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    For me, the issue isn't gay Black people. James Baldwin was gay, but he was thorough.
    My main concern is the public emasculation of the Black male image. Most of the time I see a gay Black man on tv, he looks like this: View attachment 526

    Meanwhile, his white boyfriend will look like this: View attachment 527
    Why must the Black man always be the limp-wristed, feminine, lip-smacking bussy boy?
    That's the toxic image being fed to our children, and it's sickening!
    THIS!!!
     

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    The threat comes a masculinizing women. That means that she needs no protection from men. It means she is not desired, therefore, not protected, therefore worthless and the children she bares are simply accidents or just products of animal sex, and not a family with a mother and father who love and protect them. It also creates the image and then reality that women do not need men, which is not true.

    The threat is on emasculating black men. Which means that they are incapable of defending women and children. It renders men frivolous and sex driven, having no boundaries or control. It means that you care about laying with men more than creating and protecting communities. It makes black men appear weak, and misdirected. Sexuality is not important. Being functioning men and women is what's important.
    You kilt it with this post right here straight fax. If we was anti-gay as a culture Prince would have been hung after his first album. Yet we revere that nigga and hold him right up there in the upper echelon of impactful Black Americans.

    We just aint with this non-stop onslaught of degenerate sexual behaviors the dominant society is trying to make us the face of. Why not show us as lawyers, doctors, scientists? Why we always gotta be some ultra-liberal buffoonish homo?

    Flame Monroe is the perfect example. She trans but she is Black first and you can tell she is strong and prideful.
     

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    You kilt it with this post right here straight fax. If we was anti-gay as a culture Prince would have been hung after his first album. Yet we revere that nigga and hold him right up there in the upper echelon of impactful Black Americans.

    We just aint with this non-stop onslaught of degenerate sexual behaviors the dominant society is trying to make us the face of. Why not show us as lawyers, doctors, scientists? Why we always gotta be some ultra-liberal buffoonish LBGTQIA member?

    Flame Monroe is the perfect example. She trans but she is Black first and you can tell she is strong and prideful.
    Yup! All the dudes that were afraid of gay people or hated gay people were gay themselves and running from it. This pic says it all:

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    The nigga acting all disgusted in this picture (Young Buck Broken) is the one on Twitter liking Gay White Porn and messing with trannies.
     

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    You kilt it with this post right here straight fax. If we was anti-gay as a culture Prince would have been hung after his first album. Yet we revere that nigga and hold him right up there in the upper echelon of impactful Black Americans.

    We just aint with this non-stop onslaught of degenerate sexual behaviors the dominant society is trying to make us the face of. Why not show us as lawyers, doctors, scientists? Why we always gotta be some ultra-liberal buffoonish LBGTQIA member?

    Flame Monroe is the perfect example. She trans but she is Black first and you can tell she is strong and prideful.
    Great post.
     

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    Yes in my opinion is working. It's part of a multi-faceted agenda of confusion, so we can't focus on white supremacy. The gay agenda is one part of it. Other parts include, crime, drugs, prison, educating, housing plus more. And it's all accompanied by good ole individualized racism that we each experience in our daily interactions with the rest of society.
    I see. So then if it is one part of a multifaceted agenda: why do WE call it "The Gay Agenda"? Isn't that in itself, misdirection? Misdirection that we are perpetuating. Or is that part of why you say it's working?
    The threat comes a masculinizing women. That means that she needs no protection from men. It means she is not desired, therefore, not protected, therefore worthless and the children she bares are simply accidents or just products of animal sex, and not a family with a mother and father who love and protect them. It also creates the image and then reality that women do not need men, which is not true.

    The threat is on emasculating black men. Which means that they are incapable of defending women and children. It renders men frivolous and sex driven, having no boundaries or control. It means that you care about laying with men more than creating and protecting communities. It makes black men appear weak, and misdirected. Sexuality is not important. Being functioning men and women is what's important.
    You believe black women are becoming more masculine and black men, more effeminate because of this 1 tentacle of the agenda or the overall agenda? How do you measure it?
     

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    I see. So then if it is one part of a multifaceted agenda: why do WE call it "The Gay Agenda"? Isn't that in itself, misdirection? Misdirection that we are perpetuating. Or is that part of why you say it's working?

    You believe black women are becoming more masculine and black men, more effeminate because of this 1 tentacle of the agenda or the overall agenda? How do you measure it?

    It’s a huge octopus and one of the tentacles is the gay agenda, another is cultural demonization, another is mass incarceration, there’s no time to measure the bullshit we need to get the fucking octopus out the way.
     
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    I see. So then if it is one part of a multifaceted agenda: why do WE call it "The Gay Agenda"? Isn't that in itself, misdirection? Misdirection that we are perpetuating. Or is that part of why you say it's working?

    You believe black women are becoming more masculine and black men, more effeminate because of this 1 tentacle of the agenda or the overall agenda? How do you measure it?
    I'm still leaning how to use the quotes and functions, so please bare with me.

    It's called the gay agenda, as far as I'm concerned, because that is what it is. It's one agenda that is a part of an over all agenda. It's like a team that has multiple plays. You may need to execute more than one play to win the game, or at least keep the lead.

    There are multiple reasons that black men and women are experiencing issues, and the gay agenda is one of the reasons that black people are confused.

    Everyone has an agenda, except black people. So we don't really understand what an agenda is. Nothing the dominant society does it by accident and they have proven time and time again that they want to destroy black people. So I'm not sure why it's difficult for some of us to understand when we're facing an agenda. I'm not talking about you, I'm speaking about black people as a collective.
     
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    You kilt it with this post right here straight fax. If we was anti-gay as a culture Prince would have been hung after his first album. Yet we revere that nigga and hold him right up there in the upper echelon of impactful Black Americans.

    We just aint with this non-stop onslaught of degenerate sexual behaviors the dominant society is trying to make us the face of. Why not show us as lawyers, doctors, scientists? Why we always gotta be some ultra-liberal buffoonish LBGTQIA member?

    Flame Monroe is the perfect example. She trans but she is Black first and you can tell she is strong and prideful.
    I completely agree. And people like Flame attract running around crying because someone took a crack at them, that's what we do. We go on one another and then we fight side by side. You better not mess with my gay uncle, but that's because we're black first.

    They have not convinced gay black people to be in non black relationships. Black men and women are showing up with white partners now looking totally confused and self hating and destructive.

    We've always had things pushed in our face and forced to accept it. We really need to turn our backs to this, speak about it in spaces like this, but not entertain anything publicly. We also need to check and isolate other blacks and really everyone else who would try to bring this to us. Honestly we need to stay to ourselves and have punishments/repercussions for those who want to play games
     

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    I completely agree. And people like Flame attract running around crying because someone took a crack at them, that's what we do. We go on one another and then we fight side by side. You better not mess with my gay uncle, but that's because we're black first.

    They have not convinced gay black people to be in non black relationships. Black men and women are showing up with white partners now looking totally confused and self hating and destructive.

    We've always had things pushed in our face and forced to accept it. We really need to turn our backs to this, speak about it in spaces like this, but not entertain anything publicly. We also need to check and isolate other blacks and really everyone else who would try to bring this to us. Honestly we need to stay to ourselves and have punishments/repercussions for those who want to play games
    Yes, it all comes back to the code. If you’re democrat first, gay first, or anything before Black, you are of no use to us. Having brown skin is no longer good enough.
     
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    And they are doing this because we are 13% for the past 4 decades??? Family? THAT has to be the biggest lie these Pinkertons have told us. The planned parenthood wasn't working fast enough plus many of "them" are also using the services there.
    Yes I agree. They say that there are less than 1B in Africa. I don't believe that. Nigeria alone has 250M. They do lie to make us appear smaller. How can the largest continent have less than 1B people. I also believe they are lying about all numbers. China, India, and so on. They are also trying to call North Africans and Arabs white. So we have to understand what's going on
     
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    Yup! All the dudes that were afraid of gay people or hated gay people were gay themselves and running from it. This pic says it all:

    View attachment 528

    The nigga acting all disgusted in this picture (Young Buck Broken) is the one on Twitter liking Gay White Porn and messing with trannies.
    I can not wrap my mind around this. It's too much for me. I'm confused 😕. This hurts my mind.
     
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    Yes, it all comes back to the code. If you’re democrat first, gay first, or anything before Black, you are of no use to us. Having brown skin is no longer good enough.
    Absolutely. I'm not really anything but black. I'm not left or right, gay or straight, religious or atheist. I'm black. All of those terms are tools used by agents of destruction and chaos.
     

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    Yup! All the dudes that were afraid of gay people or hated gay people were gay themselves and running from it. This pic says it all:

    View attachment 528

    The nigga acting all disgusted in this picture (Young Buck Broken) is the one on Twitter liking Gay White Porn and messing with trannies.
    Young Buck was turned on and had to distance himself.

    bwbmiletongue
     

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    I see. So then if it is one part of a multifaceted agenda: why do WE call it "The Gay Agenda"? Isn't that in itself, misdirection? Misdirection that we are perpetuating. Or is that part of why you say it's working?

    You believe black women are becoming more masculine and black men, more effeminate because of this 1 tentacle of the agenda or the overall agenda? How do you measure it?

    I'm skeptical of people who refer to black women as more masculine

    I've heard talk like that before when Obama was in office about Michelle.
     

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    It’s a huge octopus and one of the tentacles is the gay agenda, another is cultural demonization, another is mass incarceration, there’s no time to measure the bullshit we need to get the f**king octopus out the way.
    I understand. I ask because war is largely a game of illusions. We can measure something like mass incarceration so we can be certain it is there and what it's doing.

    I think there is too much nuance when it comes to the gay agenda as in how do demonize it without demonizing those LGBT within your ranks? How does B1 not become B1 except if you're LGBT?
     

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    It's called the gay agenda, as far as I'm concerned, because that is what it is. It's one agenda that is a part of an over all agenda. It's like a team that has multiple plays. You may need to execute more than one play to win the game, or at least keep the lead.
    Understood.
    There are multiple reasons that black men and women are experiencing issues, and the gay agenda is one of the reasons that black people are confused.
    What do you see black people as confused about? Having an agenda?
    Everyone has an agenda, except black people. So we don't really understand what an agenda is. Nothing the dominant society does it by accident and they have proven time and time again that they want to destroy black people. So I'm not sure why it's difficult for some of us to understand when we're facing an agenda. I'm not talking about you, I'm speaking about black people as a collective.
    I don't know that black people don't have an agenda (we want to live healthy, prosperous lives like everyone else), I believe the issue is we don't want to hurt anybody. Why doesn't the abused wife leave her abuser husband? I think that's an element.

    I believe we are afraid of damaging others because we have been so damaged. And that becomes problematic because we were born into damage so it appears normal. So then when we push for more (equity), it feels like we're damaging others. The flipside of the coin: white people feel like we are damaging them as well. Everybody thinks our current state (and there's in relation to ours) is normal.

    I think both sides of the coin don't understand equity for us is healing for both sides of the coin.



    Thanks for the clarity.
     
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    I'm skeptical of people who refer to black women as more masculine

    I've heard talk like that before when Obama was in ...This has nothing to do with Obama, unless you want to discuss his unnecessary contributions to the LGBT...Not sure how you got there. I never called black women masculine. I said it's part of the agenda. Black women are the most feminine women on the planet. Do I really need to say that???

    I'm skeptical of people who refer to black women as more masculine

    I've heard talk like that before when Obama was in office about Michelle.
    This has nothing to do with Obama, unless you want to discuss his unnecessary contributions to the LGBT...Not sure how you got there. I never called black women masculine. I said it's part of the agenda. Black women are the most feminine women on the planet. Do I really need to say that???
     

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    I'm skeptical of people who refer to black women as more masculine

    I've heard talk like that before when Obama was in office about Michelle.
    White racists went out of their way to call Michelle Obama and Serena Williams masculine.
     
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    Understood.

    What do you see black people as confused about? Having an agenda?

    I don't know that black people don't have an agenda (we want to live healthy, prosperous lives like everyone else), I believe the issue is we don't want to hurt anybody. Why doesn't the abused wife leave her abuser husband? I think that's an element.

    I believe we are afraid of damaging others because we have been so damaged. And that becomes problematic because we were born into damage so it appears normal. So then when we push for more (equity), it feels like we're damaging others. The flipside of the coin: white people feel like we are damaging them as well. Everybody thinks our current state (and there's in relation to ours) is normal.

    I think both sides of the coin don't understand equity for us is healing for both sides of the coin.



    Thanks for the clarity.
    People who want equality from their oppressor classes do in fact have problems. Wanting to live in peace, is not an agenda. Putting money in our children's pockets is an agenda. I don't think we're worried about hurting anyone, we couldn't hurt anyone other than ourselves even if we wanted to. I think we're afraid to be black and live as a group of people who produces for ourselves, and not others. I'm not sure what the other side of the coin is. Both sides are black from where I'm standing. Thanks for understanding
     

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    People who want equality from their oppressor classes do in fact have problems.
    What's the alternative, becoming the oppressor?
    Wanting to live in peace, is not an agenda. Putting money in our children's pockets is an agenda.
    I would argue we want to put money in our children's packets so they can live in peace.
    I don't think we're worried about hurting anyone, we couldn't hurt anyone other than ourselves even if we wanted to. I think we're afraid to be black and live as a group of people who produces for ourselves, and not others. I'm not sure what the other side of the coin is. Both sides are black from where I'm standing. Thanks for understanding
    Fair points. Looking at it from the perspective of an abused spouse, there is a fear of not succeeding alone. There is codependence.
     

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    People who want equality from their oppressor classes do in fact have problems.
    I should probably clarify this part: I do not believe an oppressor class can deliver equality, but I do believe that is the only way to maintain peace. So if that is not our goal when we extract equity from the oppressor class, we will merely replicate their self-destructive behavior within our own group. In my opinion.