Music

[Nesut]

I'm just going to put it out there, Beyonce's music sucks when viewed as part of Black American music.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnVUHWCynig


Halo has 1B+ views and it's mindless pop music. The lyrics are basic cookie cutter, the video looks like B-Roll from Think Like a Man, and the beat sounds like one of those royalty-free tracks out of iMovie. No one is going to be listening to this bullshit 20 years from now.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMU_iwe6U


500M+ views the lyrics are basic, the flow does nothing for the beat, and the hook is basic and repetitive.

That's in the club rocking the latest
Who will buy it for themselves and get more money later
I think I need a barber (barber)
None of these niggas can fade me (fade me)
I'm so good with this, I remind you, I'm so hood with this
Boy, I'm just playing
Come here, baby
Hope you still like me, F you, pay me

Compare the flow to something like Smokin Out the Window. They ride the beat flawlessly, Beyonce flow is so weak on this.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4YRWT_Aldo


7/11

Clap it, clap it, clap it, clap it
Foot up, my foot up, hold up, now my foot up (Spinnin')
I'm spinnin', my foot up, foot up, yeah my foot up (Spinnin')
I'm spinnin', my foot up, put my foot down, yeah my hands up (Drank)

Hold that cup like alcohol, hold that cup like alcohol
Hold that cup like alcohol, don't you drop that alcohol
Never drop that alcohol, never drop that alcohol
I know I'm thinkin' 'bout alcohol, I know I'm thinkin' bout that alcohol

Man this feel like rollin' dice, man this feel like rollin' dice
Seven eleven, seven eleven, seven twice, man, seven twice
Man, this feel like rollin' dice, damn, this feel like rollin' dice
Man, this feel like rollin' dice, seven twice, seven twice
Man, I'm tryna kick it with ya, damn, I wanna kick it with ya
Man I'm tryna kick it with ya, I spin around and I kick it with ya

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDZJPJV__bQ


Even her conscious songs are disposable. Nothing about this song is iconic or stand out and the red lobster lines are so corny.

To conclude, Beyonce is not on the level of a Mike Jack, Stevie Wonder, Aretha, and etc. She makes disposable pop music that is popular in its time but will not be remembered for decades like let's say a Billie Jean.

 

[Troy]

I’ve always felt this way about Beyonce after she went solo. The only song I can really get with from her is Love on Top that track is feel good and timeless. Dangerously in Love is not too bad either but it’s one of those songs that’s zesty for a man to play. Check Up on it and Irreplaceable are permanently burned into my skull unfortunately because of how much they were played. They were on the radio, on TV, in peoples cars it was too much I hate those songs with a passion.

View: https://youtu.be/Ob7vObnFUJc

 

[Deleted member 231]

Not tryna be a hipster, but I've always thought that her sister is the more talented of the two of them.

 

[Blackgravity]

Well when you put it like that... I grew up in the 70's, raised on blues, jazz and motown... She's not a bad singer she's just not on the icons level.

 

[Jay]

Clap it, clap it, clap it, clap it
Foot up, my foot up, hold up, now my foot up (Spinnin')
I'm spinnin', my foot up, foot up, yeah my foot up (Spinnin')
I'm spinnin', my foot up, put my foot down, yeah my hands up (Drank)

Hold that cup like alcohol, hold that cup like alcohol
Hold that cup like alcohol, don't you drop that alcohol
Never drop that alcohol, never drop that alcohol
I know I'm thinkin' 'bout alcohol, I know I'm thinkin' bout that alcohol

Man this feel like rollin' dice, man this feel like rollin' dice
Seven eleven, seven eleven, seven twice, man, seven twice
Man, this feel like rollin' dice, damn, this feel like rollin' dice
Man, this feel like rollin' dice, seven twice, seven twice
Man, I'm tryna kick it with ya, damn, I wanna kick it with ya
Man I'm tryna kick it with ya, I spin around and I kick it with ya

This is a perfect example of how wack she is, I cannot stand out her music at all. It's noise.

Not tryna be a hipster, but I've always thought that her sister is the more talented of the two of them.

I always felt like this too but it's not much better.

Well when you put it like that... I grew up in the 70's, raised on blues, jazz and motown... She's not a bad singer she's just not on the icons level.

100

 

[TheHarmattan]

I don't want to detail the thread but...

Riri, kills Bey in the "sex sells" market.

If you're "being grown", let this song come on. This song affects women like a spell.

View: https://youtu.be/49lY0HqqUVc

 

[sourgrapes]

Girl is a trainwreck and a prime example of the industry using her like a damn fool. She went from being family-oriented with a Christian foundation to marrying a camel and acting like a ratchet hoe for money. She has a good voice but it was clear that most of her talent came from her foundation and being in a group. I wanted to like her music when she went solo but I couldn't ever get into it.

 

[Mastamind]

Not tryna be a hipster, but I've always thought that her sister is the more talented of the two of them.

I said this from jump...I wish I could find the receipts of me saying this. It's a blatant example of the pop/indie dynamic.

 

[Troy]

I don't want to detail the thread but...

Riri, kills Bey in the "sex sells" market.

If you're "being grown", let this song come on. This song affects women like a spell.

View: https://youtu.be/49lY0HqqUVc

Riri has better lyrics, better songs, better rhythms on the songs it’s not even close. Ontop of that Riri has sex appeal and Beyoncé doesn’t.

 

[Nesut]

Not tryna be a hipster, but I've always thought that her sister is the more talented of the two of them.

She had a hot one on the radio about 10 years ago called Trouble. I loved that song.

 

[Deleted member 231]

Well when you put it like that... I grew up in the 70's, raised on blues, jazz and motown... She's not a bad singer she's just not on the icons le

She had a hot one on the radio about 10 years ago called Trouble. I loved that song.

I said this from jump...I wish I could find the receipts of me saying this. It's a blatant example of the pop/indie dynamic.

View: https://youtu.be/83LeK-t-kTw

 

[Tati 304]

Why do y’all feel the need to tear a sista down? If you don’t like her music just keep it to yourself. You giving our enemies ammo to attack us.

 

[Deleted member 231]

Why do y’all feel the need to tear a sista down? If you don’t like her music just keep it to yourself. You giving our enemies ammo to attack us.

who's tearing her down? He didn't say she was a bad person. All he said was that her music was ovverated, which some of us happen to agree with.

 

[TheHarmattan]

Riri has better lyrics, better songs, better rhythms on the songs it’s not even close. Ontop of that Riri has sex appeal and Beyoncé doesn’t.

Bey got dancer's feet. Nope!

 

[TheHarmattan]

Girl is a trainwreck and a prime example of the industry using her like a damn fool. She went from being family-oriented with a Christian foundation to marrying a camel and acting like a ratchet hoe for money. She has a good voice but it was clear that most of her talent came from her foundation and being in a group. I wanted to like her music when she went solo but I couldn't ever get into it.

Yeah, DMX warned us about the industry. I also believed she would do anything for her pet camel and the recording industry.

 

[Tati 304]

who's tearing her down? He didn't say she was a bad person. All he said was that her music was ovverated, which some of us happen to agree with.

But why even bring it up at all? Why attack a Black woman's music especially when she is pushing postive Black images?

 

[Deleted member 231]

But why even bring it up at all? Why attack a Black woman's music especially when she is pushing postive Black images?

do you know who her husband is????????

 

[Tati 304]

do you know who her husband is????????

Of course I do but what does that have to do with anything?

 

[sourgrapes]

Yeah, DMX warned us about the industry. I also believed she would do anything for her pet camel and the recording industry.

DMX was before his time. Now people are realizing things but people were calling things out long ago. The money always shut them down and made them look like the fools. The reality is the industry screws the minds of these people and all they care about is status and money. You can compare almost any artist from any genre be it man or woman and see the changes from the start of their career till now or the end of their career. It is painfully obvious they are selling out.

 

[Deleted member 231]

DMX was before his time. Now people are realizing things but people were calling things out long ago. The money always shut them down and made them look like the fools. The reality is the industry screws the minds of these people and all they care about is status and money. You can compare almost any artist from any genre be it man or woman and see the changes from the start of their career till now or the end of their career. It is painfully obvious they are selling out.

Black Eyed Peas before vs. after Fergie

 

[Troy]

But why even bring it up at all? Why attack a Black woman's music especially when she is pushing postive Black images?

We’re not talking about her just her music,Bey can still be an icon but have subpar music.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Agreed!!! She is the most overrated singer in history. Can’t stand her. She stole Amelie’s style. Beyonce doesn’t sing - she screeches.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

But why even bring it up at all? Why attack a Black woman's music especially when she is pushing postive Black images?

Positive black images??? What like witchcraft, chanting spells, cheating, giving blowjobs in the backseat of the car while drunk in love, the queen of dancing with no pants on, throwing up 666??, demonic sacrifices for money?? And the gem of - if your man cheats on you and humiliated you multiple times for public consumption - it’s okay to take him back as long as his net worth is 500 million. Oh and let your sister fight him in the elevator for being unfaithful, it’s okay to blacklist other female artists to make yourself #1, too. After you stole their flows, fashion, style, dance moves, songs …

 

[Lamont]

Positive black images??? What like witchcraft, chanting spells, cheating, giving blowjobs in the backseat of the car while drunk in love, the queen of dancing with no pants on, throwing up 666??, demonic sacrifices for money?? And the gem of - if your man cheats on you and humiliated you multiple times for public consumption - it’s okay to take him back as long as his net worth is 500 million. Oh and let your sister fight him in the elevator for being unfaithful, it’s okay to blacklist other female artists to make yourself #1, too.

Be fair, she brought surfing awareness to Black women all across the globe.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Be fair, she brought surfing awareness to Black women all across the globe.

 

[Jay]

Agreed!!! She is the most overrated singer in history. Can’t stand her. She stole Amelie’s style. Beyonce doesn’t sing - she screeches.

...and has some of the wackest rap in the RnB industry.

 

[Tati 304]

Positive black images??? What like witchcraft, chanting spells, cheating, giving blowjobs in the backseat of the car while drunk in love, the queen of dancing with no pants on, throwing up 666??, demonic sacrifices for money?? And the gem of - if your man cheats on you and humiliated you multiple times for public consumption - it’s okay to take him back as long as his net worth is 500 million. Oh and let your sister fight him in the elevator for being unfaithful, it’s okay to blacklist other female artists to make yourself #1, too. After you stole their flows, fashion, style, dance moves, songs …

Did you not listen to Formation? She took the message directly to White people and exerted her Blackness. I can't believe you're taking the side of the men on this.

 

[TheHarmattan]

DMX was before his time. Now people are realizing things but people were calling things out long ago. The money always shut them down and made them look like the fools. The reality is the industry screws the minds of these people and all they care about is status and money. You can compare almost any artist from any genre be it man or woman and see the changes from the start of their career till now or the end of their career. It is painfully obvious they are selling out.

We're all beholden to the person that "butters your bread". If they say jump, the only thing you're allowed to ask is, "How high?"
😂👌

 

[sourgrapes]

We're all beholden to the person that "butters your bread". If they say jump, the only thing you're allowed to ask is, "How high?"
😂👌

When you have enough clowns willing to sell their family, their soul, and the entire kitchen sink for money and fame, you end up enslaved to the entertainment industry. I don't feel sorry for any of these people. They carved this path out themselves when they started accepting crap like this.

 

[Geoff]

Her first solo album was great. Anything after that is trash. This generation doesn’t actually care about good music.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Did you not listen to Formation? She took the message directly to White people and exerted her Blackness. I can't believe you're taking the side of the men on this.

Don’t insult me with the “girl power”Im a female so I’m supposed to stay on code with another female member. I don’t like Beyonce. Period. I find her to be extremely fraudulent and self serving. And lol if you think Formation was anything but a marketing ploy. 😂 Less celebrity worship and more reality is the side that you need to take. Apologies - but I’m not brainwashed by the Beyonce bandwagon. Not one to take sides unless it’s my own side and viewpoint. No I didn’t listen to Formation- if I wanted to hear screeching for an entire album- I would rather chew on glass. No thank you.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Did you not listen to Formation? She took the message directly to White people and exerted her Blackness. I can't believe you're taking the side of the men on this.

You must not be familiar with my posts from the other forum. 😆 😂 This is going to be a very long disappointing repeat exchange if you think I am one to adopt a typical “woman’s perspective” just bc I’m female and should maintain some type of false alliance disregarding my own beliefs, morals and values. That’s very feminist of you to assume so. I think for myself - if a man or woman happens to align with my thought process/ statement or does not; that’s a YOU issue not mine. I’m a grown damn woman - there are no “sides” I formulate my own opinion. I’m not being peer pressured into agreeing with anybody bc they say so.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Beyhivers really do exist in their own personal fan cult of worship. The Church of Latter Day Saint Beyonces and Stanism.

And apparently there’s a Beyble verse that states: Thouest shall revoke thy womanhood if one goes against the readings and teachings of Lordess and Beyvour, Beyonce.

It is a mortal sin to like Amerie more than Beyonce?? Amerie >>> Beyonce

 

[Jay]

Beyhivers really do exist in their own personal fan cult of worship. The Church of Latter Day Saint Beyonces and Stanism.

And apparently there’s a Beyble verse that states: Thouest shall revoke thy womanhood if one goes against the readings and teachings of Lordess and Beyvour, Beyonce.

It is a mortal sin to like Amerie more than Beyonce?? Amerie >>> Beyonce
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Fall in Love is damn near better then Bey’s whole catalog.

 

[Tati 304]

You must not be familiar with my posts from the other forum. 😆 😂 This is going to be a very long disappointing repeat exchange if you think I am one to adopt a typical “woman’s perspective” just bc I’m female and should maintain some type of false alliance disregarding my own beliefs, morals and values. That’s very feminist of you to assume so. I think for myself - if a man or woman happens to align with my thought process/ statement or does not; that’s a YOU issue not mine. I’m a grown damn woman - there are no “sides” I formulate my own opinion. I’m not being peer pressured into agreeing with anybody bc they say so.

I don’t know what other forum you’re talking about but ok sis do you. I can’t argue with your logic here. Just thought you would be down for protecting Queen BEy.

 

[Nicole0646_718]

I don’t know what other forum you’re talking about but ok sis do you. I can’t argue with your logic here. Just thought you would be down for protecting Queen BEy.

You thought wrong. No disrespect but Refrain from quoting me on any Beyonce topic going forward. Thanks!!

 

[TheHarmattan]

When you have enough clowns willing to sell their family, their soul, and the entire kitchen sink for money and fame, you end up enslaved to the entertainment industry. I don't feel sorry for any of these people. They carved this path out themselves when they started accepting crap like this.

Everyone thinks that they will keep their principles until they see... I dare not say... I guess I will say... they see 6 zeros.

 

[SIXDIMENSIONS]

Everyone thinks that they will keep their principles until they see... I dare not say... I guess I will say... they see 6 zeros.

 

[TheHarmattan]

I couldn't help it. It was low hanging fruit

 

[TheHarmattan]

You thought wrong. No disrespect but Refrain from quoting me on any Beyonce topic going forward. Thanks!!

Oh, kitty's got claws!

Be nice!

 

[SIXDIMENSIONS]

I couldn't help it. It was low hanging fruit

Im listening to a doc about how NBA youngboy enjoys werain makeup because he feels like a rockstar

 

[TheHarmattan]

Im listening to a doc about how NBA youngboy enjoys werain makeup because he feels like a rockstar

Just remember, the time you're listening to that, you'll never get that time back.

 

[SIXDIMENSIONS]

Just remember, the time you're listening to that, you'll never get that time back.

yea youre right.It wasnt too long though.lol

 

[Nicole0646_718]

Oh, kitty's got claws!

Be nice!

I was nice. I started my statement with “no disrespect” and ended with a “thanks” - what could be nicer than that.


She strolled up in here with the “if you ain’t a Beyonce worshipper then you ain’t woman enough “
….
beyonce stans on a whole other level of special type of special. I don’t think the average bey fan has progressed beyond 9th grade socialization skills or read any publication outside of the shade room or Teen Vogue at 38 yrs old. How is she trying to shade me for not wanting to be part of the cult?? Tell that chick that I am a grown ass woman who thinks for herself. Ask a Beyonce fan if they know who Dr. Frances Cress Welsing is and they’ll probably respond thinking that she was a plastic surgeon.

 

[TheHarmattan]

I was nice. I started my statement with “no disrespect” and ended with a “thanks” - what could be nicer than that.


She strolled up in here with the “if you ain’t a Beyonce worshipper then you ain’t woman enough “
….
beyonce stans on a whole other level of special type of special. I don’t think the average bey fan has progressed beyond 9th grade socialization skills or read any publication outside of the shade room or Teen Vogue at 38 yrs old. How is she trying to shade me for not wanting to be part of the cult?? Tell that chick that I am a grown ass woman who thinks for herself. Ask a Beyonce fan if they know who Dr. Frances Cress Welsing is and they’ll probably respond thinking that she was a plastic surgeon.
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I want to see you two kiss and make up😍
J/K

I rarely even know what's going on with these artists. I like songs instead of the artist so, by definition I cannot be a fan.

Cheers

 

[Tati 304]

Everyone thinks that they will keep their principles until they see... I dare not say... I guess I will say... they see 6 zeros.

 

[Nesut]

I got a Platinum thread in the Waveform give me my flowers.

 

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[sourgrapes]

Everyone thinks that they will keep their principles until they see... I dare not say... I guess I will say... they see 6 zeros.

With inflation happening, they better be selling their souls for 7 figures, not 6! But then again, 6 is very suitable for obvious reasons. People can be real stupid. lol

 

[TheHarmattan]

With inflation happening, they better be selling their souls for 7 figures, not 6! But then again, 6 is very suitable for obvious reasons. People can be real stupid. lol

I was playing with Jay's choice to name this board 6Z