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SoulBrother#2021 · 10/7/21

I simply refuse to be involved with, and support financially, an institution with does not benefit my people. The rhetoric taught is diametrically opposed to what we need as a people.

Jay · 10/7/21

SoulBrother#2021 said:
I simply refuse to be involved with, and support financially, an institution with does not benefit my people. The rhetoric taught is diametrically opposed to what we need as a people.

For real. I went to my grandpa’s church two weeks ago and a dude got on stage and said:

”put your problems in god’s hand cuz it’s his fight not yours”

I was like:

then he said: “protect us lord, show us the way lord, you are our protector and savior lord…you have delivered us lord”

I was thinking: “we’re an under class, we have no economic base, cops kill us with impunity, our home continent is conquered….nigga WTF HAS JESUS DONE FOR YOU?”

Dukect · 10/7/21

I used to go all the time when I was growing up but when I was around 23 I stopped going regularly. The main reason why is that the church has nothing more to teach as it just repeats itself and in my humble opinion I feel that's not the way forward for the Black community.

Also a lot of Coons are in 95% of black churches these days and as long as you got reality shows like this

You can see why most people are leaving the church

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

I no longer go to any church and never will again. I don't deal with Xtianity or any other religion. As an Israelite, I don't deal with religions and belief systems. being an Israelite is not another religion or belief system, it is my heritage that I have reclaimed.

Troy · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
I no longer go to any church and never will again. I don't deal with Xtianity or any other religion. As an Israelite, I don't deal with religions and belief systems. being an Israelite is not another religion or belief system, it is my heritage that I have reclaimed.

What got you into it? How did you gravitate towards it?

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Troy said:
What got you into it? How did you gravitate towards it?

The facts on the table dealing with world history and the prophesies in Scripture. When a 2000 year old book can call out history with spectacular accuracy, there must be something there.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
The facts on the table dealing with world history and the prophesies in Scripture. When a 2000 year old book can call out history with spectacular accuracy, there must be something there.

I have to ask, how do you reconcile with the fact that the text used has been altered by Europe? Are there movements to get bibles that predate king James or Catholicism?

Troy · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
The facts on the table dealing with world history and the prophesies in Scripture. When a 2000 year old book can call out history with spectacular accuracy, there must be something there.

Ok that makes sense. I don’t like the Bible but I’ve seen some really good Hebrew groups that were disciplined and organized.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
I have to ask, how do you reconcile with the fact that the text used has been altered by Europe? Are there movements to get bibles that predate king James or Catholicism?

Not sure what you mean by "altered". outside of translation errors, there is very few if any wholesale alterations to the original texts. One would need to exercise textual criticism to get through some of the discrepancies in translations.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
Not sure what you mean by "altered". outside of translation errors, there is very few if any wholesale alterations to the original texts. One would need to exercise textual criticism to get through some of the discrepancies in translations.

I’m talking about the ecumenical councils and how the story of Jesus was created by Rome.

Dewdrops · 10/9/21

I Am The Temple Of The Universal Divine With In All Things And Thus I Only Commune With My True Self Which Some Call God.

Lamont · 10/9/21

Dewdrops said:
I Am The Temple Of The Universal Divine With In All Things And Thus I Only Commune With My True Self Which Some Call God.

So our you spiritual over religious?

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Troy said:
Ok that makes sense. I don’t like the Bible but I’ve seen some really good Hebrew groups that were disciplined and organized.

That's understandable seeing how many of our people have spent a good portion of their lives dealing with the grand lie of Christianity. I would advise anyone who attends the Xtian church to leave today and never go back.

Jay · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
That's understandable seeing how many of our people have spent a good portion of their lives dealing with the grand lie of Christianity. I would advise anyone who attends the Xtian church to leave today and never go back.

I agree. Anything telling you to put your problems in someone else’s hands, to turn the other cheek, and to trust a man in the sky is problematic.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
I’m talking about the ecumenical councils and how the story of Jesus was created by Rome.

What was the Jesus that Rome created?

Dewdrops · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
So our you spiritual over religious?

The Word Religion / Religious means to bind up or to bind back , so I just say that I am because I know that I am is a vibration.

Dewdrops · 10/9/21

Many of our people go to church but few are in harmony with their divine self which is the Lord / God inwhich they seek. I find that I can more affectively introduce our people to the universal creator divine by bypassing the church which tend to block people from really knowing who to creator is which can only by found in ones self.

Dewdrops · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
What was the Jesus that Rome created?

99.9% of all who say that they believe in Jesus of 2000 years ago don't realize that there was no letter j until around the late 1500's and thus that Jesus didn't exist.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Dewdrops said:
99.9% of all who say that they believe in Jesus of 2000 years ago don't realize that there was no letter j until around the late 1500's and thus that Jesus didn't exist.

This would only show that The man's name isn't "Jesus" but not that the man didn't exist or that the narrative about him is untrue. This is another one of those translation errors I mentioned earlier.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
What was the Jesus that Rome created?

The council of Chalcedon and council of Nicaea are two pivotal points where the Roman Empire changed the story of Jesus.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
The council of Chalcedon and council of Nicaea are two pivotal points where the Roman Empire changed the story of Jesus.

What were these changes?

Dewdrops · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
This would only show that The man's name isn't "Jesus" but not that the man didn't exist or that the narrative about him is untrue. This is another one of those translation errors I mentioned earlier.

But the problem with that is that the church say there is power in the name of Jesus and if that wasn't his name then who are they talking bout and why are they not calling him by his real name . I can get the same thing with any name I choose because what it all comes down to is the emotion / spirit that is attached to it.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
What were these changes?

The Council of Chalcedon created the trinity which caused the African churches to splinter off and create non-chalcedonian Christianity.

The council of Nicaea determined that Jesus was divine.

Nesut · 10/9/21

Dewdrops said:
But the problem with that is that the church say there is power in the name of Jesus and if that wasn't his name then who are they talking bout and why are they not calling him by his real name . I can get the same thing with any name I choose because what it all comes down to is the emotion / spirit that is attached to it.

Great point. Who are you speaking to when you say Jesus?

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
The Council of Chalcedon created the trinity which caused the African churches to splinter off and create non-chalcedonian Christianity.

The council of Nicaea determined that Jesus was divine.

These would be examples of a misinterpretation of the biblical data rather than a change in the data.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
These would be examples of a misinterpretation of the biblical data rather than a change in the data.

Not true. The Roman Empire literally wrote the story to keep the Empire from splitting up. There were pivotal people like Arius and Nestor who had opinions that were causing dissent and the government had to settle it via an ecumenical council.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Dewdrops said:
But the problem with that is that the church say there is power in the name of Jesus and if that wasn't his name then who are they talking bout and why are they not calling him by his real name . I can get the same thing with any name I choose because what it all comes down to is the emotion / spirit that is attached to it.

The Xtian church says a lot of things. the Xtian isn't going to get anything out of calling Yahawah-Shi by His rightful name anyway because they Don't follow the law Which Yahawah-Shi told them to do.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
Not true. The Roman Empire literally wrote the story to keep the Empire from splitting up. There were pivotal people like Arius and Nestor who had opinions that were causing dissent and the government had to settle it via an ecumenical council.

Show me the trinity in the biblical text..

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
Show me the trinity in the biblical text..

I’m not going to play 20 questions. Rome manipulated the Bible and I gave two examples of it. Im not religious so it doesn’t matter to me. They have 12 major ecumenical councils and many more where hey crafted the story of the Jesus. If the book you read descends from that then you are reading a european depiction of Jesus.

S.O.J.I.A. · 10/9/21

Lamont said:
If the book you read descends from that then you are reading a european depiction of Jesus.

If you can't answer my last question then your statement here is invalid. misinterpreting text and changing text aren't the same thing.

Lamont · 10/9/21

S.O.J.I.A. said:
If you can't answer my last question then your statement here is invalid. misinterpreting text and changing text aren't the same thing.

I’ll concede that point.

educatedman23 · 6/23/22

I have not been to church since May 2007. I will never return again.

Deleted member 405 · 6/25/22

Stan Zero said:
Growing up my mom forced me to go to church every Sunday. These days I'm not very religious. I do believe in god, but I don't go to church much. I will go to church with my mom whenever I visit her though, but other than that, I haven't went to church in a couple years now. I've never been one to be too religious, but I say more power to you if you are. I respect anyone's choice to believe what they want. It's just never really been my thing.

I stopped back in my teens after realizing its just a show...

Deleted member 191 · 6/25/22

I stopped buying into it my freshman year of High School (the start of the priest diddling little boys scandal). However, I still went with my mom because if she was singing a song or leading some kind of special event I would go to support her. I stopped going permanently freshman yr of College.

chinwe · 6/26/22

I am a christian, I believe in Jesus Christ and I can't do without going to church. Its a part of me that is very crucial to my daily living. That is where I get the strenght and encouragrment to carry on with my day to day activities, by the grace of God, I will never forsake the gathering of the brethren.

Samuelrejoyce · 6/28/22

My church is a very nice place to be in so I love to go to church every Sunday I have amazing friends at church too, the highlight of every service is taking pictures with my friends after service.

GACishere · 7/3/22

I only go if i get invited to church i am going to see my friend get baptized soon and my mom wants me to go back to church. But other than that no. But I'll definitely try to find my black wife in the church

MR-D-ROB · 7/3/22

I'm pretty much the same. I was never forced to go as a child. My parents went on a infrequent basis! They left it up to me if I wanted to go with them or not.

I respect my parents for always allowing me to make my own decsions. They let me know their view and if I disagreed they left me to do what was best. They only got involved if it was something they felt would have a bad outcome for me.

As long as I kept my grades good and stayed out of trouble they were fine with whatever I did.

I rarely go to church now. I believe in God and that Jesus is our savior. I just believe different than what a lot of these churches teach. I believe that Jesus was a black man and that is why he was treated the way he was and why he got crucified. If you think about it does they way Jesus was treated sound more like how a black man or white man would have been treated?

The system of white supremacy uses religion to keep us submissive and docile. They want us talking about forgiveness when they kill our loved ones. We're the only race that they make to feel it is wrong to show anger.

Danny · 7/4/22

For years now, I'm no longer serious about going to church. I'm a born Catholic but over the course of time, I felt like I'm being lied to about what Christianity is all about or that those that are preaching it aren't doing exactly what they are preaching which makes it very difficult for me. I'm more interested in being good to my fellow man then pride myself on being a church goer who doesn't do well by my neighbours.

The Haze Of Our Lives · 7/4/22

Stan Zero said:
Growing up my mom forced me to go to church every Sunday. These days I'm not very religious. I do believe in god, but I don't go to church much. I will go to church with my mom whenever I visit her though, but other than that, I haven't went to church in a couple years now. I've never been one to be too religious, but I say more power to you if you are. I respect anyone's choice to believe what they want. It's just never really been my thing.

No I dont go because if it isnt a weekly fashion show its a orgy house and it isnt what it use to be.

TeeGee · 7/4/22

Yeah, I do go to church but in the past few months I haven't attended any church services.

Barida · 7/5/22

I worship at home. I don't really see the need to be in the church every Sunday. We've got to understand that exuding nice characters are far more better than just being a church goer.

Maxwell · 7/5/22

I try as much as possible to go to church every Sunday once I'm healthy enough to attend the church services in a good mental health state. My father used to be catechist, so it was a must for each and every one of us to take church services very serious.

equis · 7/5/22

I'm a Hebrew Israelite so it may be a bit different, but I'll still chime in. I was actually kicked out of my most recent congregation for not bending to the will of the egomaniac who ran it who wanted me to actually stop doing The Black Narrative. Since then, I haven't had any desire to join any assembly or church because it's often filled with cult personalities and hypocrisy spilling over the brim. They'll take the word of The Most High and twist it for their own personal agendas. I could go on and on, but long story short, I'm not a part of any assembly.

Sapphire · 7/5/22

I did growing up, both my parents - our whole family really, we all went to a Christian church but as I got older, my father decided that they were getting too corrupt. We switched a few times and eventually stopped going. I don't don't go at all.

Ravenfreak · 7/5/22

I haven't been to church since 2004. I was baptized catholic, but I don't believe in organized religion. I feel that you should be able to pray anywhere you want and don't necessarily have to go to church because god is all seeing. I also feel that churches are greedy and want you to give them money.

Christybabe · 7/5/22

Yes I go to church,but recently I have being off and on due to my kids being down health wise. I love attending church because we pray a lot and God has being faithful. Going to Church helps me spiritually I must confess,it gives me comfort and a sense of connection with God.

educatedman23 · 7/21/22

I will never go to church ever again. Don't understand the point.

RCNAL · 7/21/22

As a collective the black church (not just in America but anywhere Africans or people of African descent are) have failed the people. Speifically in America, church is primarily used partiailly as a coping mechanism for dealing with white supremacy. They offer none or very little effective solutions. As an aside, I do not consider white evangelicals as a whole Christians. And I would ask any Black pastor if they are Christian and if he says yes, ask him why? Because white evangelicals, especially those in the south and midwest, have been on the wrong side of EVERY social or racial event in American history. They were for slavery. For the south in the Civil War. For Jim Crow and segration. Against the women's right to vote in 1919. Against the Civil Rights movement. EIther by silence or by admission the deaths of every publicly followed death of Black people at the hands of police or white individuals from Trayvon Martin to today. ALL. And I'm supposed to go to a Black church that calls white evangelicals brothers and sisters in Christ? The black church has been co-opted for a while. There are about 21 black banks/credit unions in America. The black churches in cities with a black bank. How much money do they put in them? I'd be shocked if there was one red cent. Nah, I'm good. And the black church in America are the best of the lot. The ones in Africa and the Caribbean are the gulliest. They would make a pimp blush. Money and hoes is all they are about.

Heatice · 7/23/22

Going to church haven't been a big deal for me in years even though that my father is a Knight of St. Mulumba, it doesn’t change anything towards how I feel about going to church. If my spirit isn't connected to going at any particular Sunday, I'm definitely not going anywhere. It's just like today that's a Sunday, I'm not going anywhere.

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