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have you changed or considered changing your surname? (FBA descendants of slaves)

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    whats a good example of this?
    When we as Black Americans are at a point where we have an economic footing and can punish those who abuse us I think it would be a good time to focus on the superficial. I want Black Americans and Black people globally to stop thinking like victims, equating Blackness with poverty and squalor, and when we see ourselves for what we deserve we will naturally start fighting to right the wrongs.
     

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    When we as Black Americans are at a point where we have an economic footing and can punish those who abuse us I think it would be a good time to focus on the superficial. I want Black Americans and Black people globally to stop thinking like victims, equating Blackness with poverty and squalor, and when we see ourselves for what we deserve we will naturally start fighting to right the wrongs.

    So on an individual basis its not appropriate until everyone is ready?
     

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    So on an individual basis its not appropriate until everyone is ready?
    I’m not saying what anyone should or should not do. If someone wants to change their name that’s fine, Malcolm X made a huge statement by doing so. But I feel like it’s window dressing…what good is a shiny coat of paint on a raggedy house?
     

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    I’m not saying what anyone should or should not do. If someone wants to change their name that’s fine, Malcolm X made a huge statement by doing so. But I feel like it’s window dressing…what good is a shiny coat of paint on a raggedy house?

    i see.
    believe me. i know full well how black people rely too much on symbolism instead of substance.

    but consider that sometimes changing your name and/or how you view yourself can be the beginning of changing on the inside as well. Throughout the bible, God changed names before that person had done anything noteworthy. they had to shake off the old name and everything that came with it and what better way to do that than with a new name.

    so it depends on the person i think.
     

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    Yes I have but have been asked to wait until my grandmother passes on. I have been wanting to rid myself of this pinkerton slave masters name.

    same here.
    the only reason why i havent done so yet is because its a big deal to me.
    also learning who foundational black americans truly are, its caused me to approach this change with full consideration.
     

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    same here.
    the only reason why i havent done so yet is because its a big deal to me.
    also learning who foundational black americans truly are, its caused me to approach this change with full consideration.
    Oh I am defiantly going to take my time choosing and I have the paperwork from the county in hand. But my granny asked me to wait until she passes on, I can't disregard her wishes...she is 94.
     

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    Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
     

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    i see.
    believe me. i know full well how black people rely too much on symbolism instead of substance.

    but consider that sometimes changing your name and/or how you view yourself can be the beginning of changing on the inside as well. Throughout the bible, God changed names before that person had done anything noteworthy. they had to shake off the old name and everything that came with it and what better way to do that than with a new name.

    so it depends on the person i think.
    I agree with that but Black people have been way too gun shy and so I can’t get behind any symbolism. You either ready to get buck or you not.
     

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    It's funny because I was just thinking about how some names are common like Johnson Jones Davis Williams and i don't think about the origin until i hear a nigga with the name like Fitzgerald or McSomething. I know a girl who's surname is Shropshire and that just screams slave name to me.

    I say all that to say if my name sounded outwardly plantation-ish like that, I might consider changing it but no otherwise for reasons @Jay gave
     

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    It's funny because I was just thinking about how some names are common like Johnson Jones Davis Williams and i don't think about the origin until i hear a negro with the name like Fitzgerald or McSomething. I know a girl who's surname is Shropshire and that just screams slave name to me.

    I say all that to say if my name sounded outwardly plantation-ish like that, I might consider changing it but no otherwise for reasons @Jay gave

    The Johnsons Jones Davis and Williams were the Jeff Bezos of this slavery ish.
     

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    I think about it all the time... I'd go the Malcolm route.. Just give me an X

    now this...
    This. I have seriously considered.
    Not only does it rid us of the slave name.
    Not only does it give us a new name.
    But its a constant reminder to us lest we forget.
    and its a constant reminder to the descendants of slave owners, of their crimes and a debt owed.

    i actually also thought about changing my last to master just to hear yt ppl call me Mr. master.
    but, would never.
     

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    now this...
    This. I have seriously considered.
    Not only does it rid us of the slave name.
    Not only does it give us a new name.
    But its a constant reminder to us lest we forget.
    and its a constant reminder to the descendants of slave owners, of their crimes and a debt owed.

    i actually also thought about changing my last to master just to hear yt ppl call me Mr. master.
    but, would never.
    Yeah I like X cuz theres no permanence to it. The X is a to be continued like saying “I banish my slave name for now with an X and I’ll get back to figuring out a new name once my foots out yo ass”
     

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    Yeah I like X cuz theres no permanence to it. The X is a to be continued like saying “I banish my slave name for now with an X and I’ll get back to figuring out a new name once my foots out yo ass”
    lol im dying
    my dude is about that action. said fuk the name shyt,
    when we gone get active.

    i know who to call when its go time.
    usher laugh
     

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    lol im dying
    my dude is about that action. said fuk the name shyt,
    when we gone get active.

    i know who to call when its go time.
    usher laugh
    I’m all about action, if I do this right ima be a marked man believe that.
     

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    I’m all about action, if I do this right ima be a marked man believe that.

    you remind me of monk from gangs of new york.
    we all like were here today to fight for our honor and
    the memory of our ancestors. blah blah blah
    and youre like....

    NIGGA, WHO IS WE KILLING AND HOW MUCH PER NOTCH.

    (watch till the end)

    also, if you havent seen this, get on that.
     

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    you remind me of monk from gangs of new york.
    we all like were here today to fight for our honor and
    the memory of our ancestors. blah blah blah
    and youre like....

    negro, WHO IS WE KILLING AND HOW MUCH PER NOTCH.

    (watch till the end)

    also, if you havent seen this, get on that.

    Man that was so interesting...that little clip had me hooked and yes I'm definitely a monk personality type. But I'm a Monk type at the Lieutenant Colonel level, I'll assemble 1000 Monks and then send them at you.