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Hey Whites: Stop Whitesplaining, Coddling Racists, Being WS Apologists, Manipulating and Taking Both Sides of the Conversation RIGHT NOW!

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I was trying to Google to term "Y'all Qaeda" to make sure I wasn't misspelling it and I unfortunately had the misfortunes of coming across this drivel written by Joel Nihlean.

It is just me, or is this writer a decent example of white Supremacy taking both sides of the conversation?


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Stop Calling Them Y’all Qaeda, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdists, Right Now​

Comparing right-wing terrorists to Islamic extremists is not the argument you think it is.​

Joel Nihlean

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Aug 24, 2021 · 7 min read





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Members of a III% militia pose for a picture at a Stop the Steal rally in Salem, OR. Photo by
Joshua Wood
Recently, a North Carolina man claiming to have a bomb live-streamed a litany of anti-government grievances from his truck near the U.S. Capitol. Police responded in force. He surrendered only after an hours-long standoff and the evacuations of numerous government buildings in the area.

The man, Floyd Ray Roseberry, had previously posted videos to Facebook of himself marching in a pro-Trump march shouting “stop the steal.”

As in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot, epithets like Y’all Qaeda, American Taliban, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdist were all trending on Twitter, popping up in Facebook posts, and on the lips of many.

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Floyd Ray Roseberry, in his pickup truck in a standoff with Capitol Police outside the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. Photo by Sydney Bobb
The most charitable interpretation of these monikers is that people are saying that the MAGA crowd is more than just a bunch of clowns larping as revolutionaries. The names point to both the American South and international terrorism. The names gesture toward the idea that these people may seem like simpletons, but they can be dangerous — here’s another dangerous movement, Islamic extremists like al Qaeda and ISIS.

But even if the comparison is a good faith one, it leads us to view these groups as a less-than-serious threat. And there are so many other reasons why it’s both bad and wrong.

Yes, it stereotypes both groups — it’s classist and has a bigoted if not outright racist nature to it. But more than that, it lumps together anybody who has grievances with the American global empire and dismisses them as loony, sort of painting with a broad brush.

But all of that’s a sort of side issue.

What’s the point of comparing American terror with international terror?​

The biggest reason names like Y’all Qaeda, American Taliban, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdist are a problem is that we don’t need to make analogies to international terror movements. Since 9/11, white supremacist groups have been responsible for three times as many terrorist attacks as Islamist extremists.

It’s not necessary to try to untangle the complexities of international terror’s evil actions and potentially legitimate grievances with imperialism. There’s a long history of homegrown, American fascist terror movements.

Domestic terrorism in the United States — slave patrols, the KKK, Pinkertons, union-busters, and more — is a much older and longer tradition. The modern iteration of the mujahideen in Afghanistan, CIA-funded no less, has only been around since about the 1970s.

What’s happening on the modern American far-Right — groups like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Patriot Prayer, the Bundy family, the Boogaloo Bois, and III% militias — has more in common with the historical American terror movements than international terrorism in far-off places under very different social and political circumstances.

Ridiculous and insidious by design​

People seem to have trouble wrapping their heads around the fact that these groups storming U.S. Capitol were simultaneously both incredibly buffoonish — wandering the halls in awe, dressed up in crazy outfits, and taking videos and snapping selfies of each other committing federal crimes — and incredibly dangerous.

At the same time as the QAnon shaman wandered through the Senate, militia members were coordinating using walkie-talkie apps and people in full camo with zip ties were searching the Capitol. They were clearly intending to do a lot of damage — maybe kidnap people, take hostages, or even kill someone.


Combining those two things, ridiculousness and insidiousness, is not a new phenomenon. It has a long history in U.S. terror movements. The Ku Klux Klan was also both ridiculous and insidious. They walked around hoods and robes, calling each other wizards, dragons, centaurs, cyclopes, and goblins. They were ridiculous. But they also burned crosses, fomented waves of fear, and murdered people in cold blood.

The reasoning behind all the pomp and circumstance is to create a secret social club feel to membership. It makes the movement look less dangerous because it has this silly side.

This disarming clownishness has also been employed by politicians like Donald Trump to great effect. The clownish exterior has a way of disarming when the criticism comes.

We expect leaders with authoritarian tendencies to have more of the classic hair-slicked-back stern demeanor. When we don’t get what we expect, it’s easy to be knocked back on our heels.

Right-wing terror is not new or disconnected from the past​

Bottom line: We need to focus on comparing right-wing terror happening in America now to past American terrorist movements They enforced racial segregation then, and then these movements, their tactics, and the ends they aimed at were codified and integrated into society in ways that can continue the enforcement today.

The event most similar to the Capitol riot, as much as the riot was buffoonish and bound to fail, was the Wilmington insurrection in North Carolina. It was the only successful coup d’état on American soil. In the late 19th century, a bunch of white supremacists just killed the integrated black and white government officials of the city and took over.

We don’t need to protect and maintain this luster of fantasy about America — to paper over all the internal contradictions…
A better understanding of America’s history of enforcing racial segregation through terror, and a better understanding of the ideology underpinning these movements would help us reconcile the seeming contradictions of danger and buffoonery that exist on the surface.

 

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A Death-Dealing Style in American Politics​

The Right’s response to the pandemic, Black Lives Matter, and refusal to accept the election results says something…​

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Centrism relies on comparing the Right to international terrorism​

Ignoring these critiques of the modern Right, as misguided as they are, tends to bolster a centrist ideology of American exceptionalism, an idea that this country is already great — the best in the world, really — and, at worst, just needs a little work around the edges. Fundamentally, things are going alright.

At the same time, this name-calling normalizes American empire. They’re going outside our national borders — to the edges of American imperial control — to make a comparison to other groups fighting the United States.

Part of the reason for looking outward is an unwillingness to look at the failures inside this country. It’s easier to gloss over things and compare right-wing American terror to people ‘out there’ that are the bad ones causing all the problems.

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The Jan. 6 Capitol Riot, Photo by Blink O’fanaye
It’s ultimately advantageous to classify right-wingers as not American, somehow other. Recognizing them as American would mean acknowledging that there’s something fundamentally contradictory in our society, that there are unresolved — possibly unresolvable — tensions within America itself.

We don’t need to protect and maintain this luster of fantasy about America — to paper over all the internal contradictions — to critique this modern right-wing terror movement. We don’t need to label it a cancer or act like it came from the outside somehow when right-wing terror has a long and storied history to draw upon in the U.S.

Creating an outsider — an other — as an imminent threat is a very potent way to galvanize an internal cohesion — to create an ‘us versus them’ dichotomy.

Once you have that division — the ‘us versus them’ binary — it’s easier to draw support for your ideological base. Even though this is taking place at the level of online name-calling or a cheap critique, because of its ability to go viral — trend on Twitter and move easily between platforms and offline — it has real potency. It acts as a type of psychopolitical reinforcement, strengthening an ideology of American exceptionalism and imperial justification.

And that’s what the center-left is trying so hard to do. They’re desperate to reclaim that position of empire that they felt so proud of during the Obama-Clinton era. That’s what they want back so bad.

We can’t make America great without honest critique​

The point of bringing comparisons home is not just because we have a homegrown version of racist terror right here. It’s not like you need to have this pessimistic outlook on America and a fundamentally cynical outlook on American politics — that it can never be any better — in fact, quite the opposite.

The idea here is to unearth this psychopolitical mechanism that undergirds the logic of this critique or name-calling, or whatever it is, and bring it to light. Once we define it, we can replace it with something better. That’s the first stage of progress.


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Sounds like some crap that some editor from so-called "liberal" VICELAND (founded by creator of the Proud Boys) would write...
 

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    I was trying to Google to term "Y'all Qaeda" to make sure I wasn't misspelling it and I unfortunately had the misfortunes of coming across this drivel written by Joel Nihlean.

    It is just me, or is this writer a decent example of white Supremacy taking both sides of the conversation?


    ---------------------------

    Stop Calling Them Y’all Qaeda, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdists, Right Now​

    Comparing right-wing terrorists to Islamic extremists is not the argument you think it is.​

    Joel Nihlean
    Joel Nihlean
    Follow
    Aug 24, 2021 · 7 min read





    1*zjN__hR-F2XeT2mWy9Mriw.jpeg

    Members of a III% militia pose for a picture at a Stop the Steal rally in Salem, OR. Photo by
    Joshua Wood
    Recently, a North Carolina man claiming to have a bomb live-streamed a litany of anti-government grievances from his truck near the U.S. Capitol. Police responded in force. He surrendered only after an hours-long standoff and the evacuations of numerous government buildings in the area.

    The man, Floyd Ray Roseberry, had previously posted videos to Facebook of himself marching in a pro-Trump march shouting “stop the steal.”

    As in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot, epithets like Y’all Qaeda, American Taliban, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdist were all trending on Twitter, popping up in Facebook posts, and on the lips of many.

    1*Y5KYCi2DIILJHeNxAE3X9A.jpeg

    1*Y5KYCi2DIILJHeNxAE3X9A.jpeg

    Floyd Ray Roseberry, in his pickup truck in a standoff with Capitol Police outside the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. Photo by Sydney Bobb
    The most charitable interpretation of these monikers is that people are saying that the MAGA crowd is more than just a bunch of clowns larping as revolutionaries. The names point to both the American South and international terrorism. The names gesture toward the idea that these people may seem like simpletons, but they can be dangerous — here’s another dangerous movement, Islamic extremists like al Qaeda and ISIS.

    But even if the comparison is a good faith one, it leads us to view these groups as a less-than-serious threat. And there are so many other reasons why it’s both bad and wrong.

    Yes, it stereotypes both groups — it’s classist and has a bigoted if not outright racist nature to it. But more than that, it lumps together anybody who has grievances with the American global empire and dismisses them as loony, sort of painting with a broad brush.

    But all of that’s a sort of side issue.

    What’s the point of comparing American terror with international terror?​

    The biggest reason names like Y’all Qaeda, American Taliban, Vanilla ISIS, and Yeehawdist are a problem is that we don’t need to make analogies to international terror movements. Since 9/11, white supremacist groups have been responsible for three times as many terrorist attacks as Islamist extremists.

    It’s not necessary to try to untangle the complexities of international terror’s evil actions and potentially legitimate grievances with imperialism. There’s a long history of homegrown, American fascist terror movements.

    Domestic terrorism in the United States — slave patrols, the KKK, Pinkertons, union-busters, and more — is a much older and longer tradition. The modern iteration of the mujahideen in Afghanistan, CIA-funded no less, has only been around since about the 1970s.

    What’s happening on the modern American far-Right — groups like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Patriot Prayer, the Bundy family, the Boogaloo Bois, and III% militias — has more in common with the historical American terror movements than international terrorism in far-off places under very different social and political circumstances.

    Ridiculous and insidious by design​

    People seem to have trouble wrapping their heads around the fact that these groups storming U.S. Capitol were simultaneously both incredibly buffoonish — wandering the halls in awe, dressed up in crazy outfits, and taking videos and snapping selfies of each other committing federal crimes — and incredibly dangerous.

    At the same time as the QAnon shaman wandered through the Senate, militia members were coordinating using walkie-talkie apps and people in full camo with zip ties were searching the Capitol. They were clearly intending to do a lot of damage — maybe kidnap people, take hostages, or even kill someone.


    Combining those two things, ridiculousness and insidiousness, is not a new phenomenon. It has a long history in U.S. terror movements. The Ku Klux Klan was also both ridiculous and insidious. They walked around hoods and robes, calling each other wizards, dragons, centaurs, cyclopes, and goblins. They were ridiculous. But they also burned crosses, fomented waves of fear, and murdered people in cold blood.

    The reasoning behind all the pomp and circumstance is to create a secret social club feel to membership. It makes the movement look less dangerous because it has this silly side.

    This disarming clownishness has also been employed by politicians like Donald Trump to great effect. The clownish exterior has a way of disarming when the criticism comes.

    We expect leaders with authoritarian tendencies to have more of the classic hair-slicked-back stern demeanor. When we don’t get what we expect, it’s easy to be knocked back on our heels.

    Right-wing terror is not new or disconnected from the past​

    Bottom line: We need to focus on comparing right-wing terror happening in America now to past American terrorist movements They enforced racial segregation then, and then these movements, their tactics, and the ends they aimed at were codified and integrated into society in ways that can continue the enforcement today.

    The event most similar to the Capitol riot, as much as the riot was buffoonish and bound to fail, was the Wilmington insurrection in North Carolina. It was the only successful coup d’état on American soil. In the late 19th century, a bunch of white supremacists just killed the integrated black and white government officials of the city and took over.


    A better understanding of America’s history of enforcing racial segregation through terror, and a better understanding of the ideology underpinning these movements would help us reconcile the seeming contradictions of danger and buffoonery that exist on the surface.

    It's like a cape piece by a person who didnt want to be called a White Supremacist. He was like "Well they kinda like Al Qaeda but they not because they an American Al Qaeda and the American government isn't perfect". It was hot garbage. It was a piece that in the end you didn't fell any smarter, any more informed, I spent the whole time trying to figure out WTF was his point.
     

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    It's like a cape piece by a person who didnt want to be called a White Supremacist. He was like "Well they kinda like Al Qaeda but they not because they an American Al Qaeda and the American government isn't perfect". It was hot garbage. It was a piece that in the end you didn't fell any smarter, any more informed, I spent the whole time trying to figure out WTF was his point.

    TL:DR
    The article is a whole lotta cac babble.

    I hate how ambiguous these white suspected WS writers are when they talk and write and how they try to appear neutral, rational and intellectual with their arguments while beating around the bush and acting like white Supremacy and its supporters and missions are basically misunderstood and that we need to be more compassionate toward their plight because they're "victims" like everyone else and they're just down on their luck and we're all just "pawns" for the powers that be anyway.

    "It's not them, it's the system that's supporting using and destroying them and pitting us against each other."

    Basically the same message as that facepalm worthy Joyner Lucas "I'm Not Racist" video in extremely verbose text form and coded programming language. Most of TV, news, entertainment, and media promote this same exact message for whites, non-Blacks, and lost Black people to digest and regurgitate to each other on some fake ass "kumbaya" mess.

    GTFOHWTBS.

    Rebuke this shit.

    Fuck Joe Nihlean
    Fuck those Treasonous Insurrectionists
    Fuck Donald Trump and "Let's Go Brandon."

    And no, you don't have to be a Trump supporter or a conservative / Republican to shout "Let's Go Brandon."

    "Let's Go Brandon" means Fuck Joe Biden.

    Any person with sense can tell this WS article is just a bunch of babble written by a triggered racist WS snowflake as soon as he saw Black Twitter and others rightfully drag the fuck outta the white demons and their horrible hypocrisy, and exposing them for the actual threat to humanity they truly are.
     

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    Fuck Donald Trump and "Let's Go Brandon."

    And no, you don't have to be a Trump supporter or a conservative / Republican to shout "Let's Go Brandon."
    It means Fuck Joe Biden but it’s also only said by racist ass white people.

    new girl no GIF by Fox TV


    It’s better to keep it simple and say fuck Joe Biden.

    The enemy of my enemy is also a white supremacist because white supremacy takes both sides.
     

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    It means Fuck Joe Biden but it’s also only said by racist ass white people.

    new girl no GIF by Fox TV


    It’s better to keep it simple and say fuck Joe Biden.

    The enemy of my enemy is also a white supremacist because white supremacy takes both sides.
    I have unfortunately noticed the same exact thing, however I thought it would be / sound different if we co-opted that phrase for our interests and betterment.

    But I feel you and understand your argument.

    Will do.
     

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    F all these slimy old ass politicians. They only look to line their own pockets. Left, right, or center... They are all criminals. People who fall for this BS is beyond me at this point. They love keeping these kinds of white people in check so they can do the dirty work for them.