The Cookout

[RCNAL]

I have seen some of this first hand. I'm dark skinned or as we used to say back 'dark skin-did' : ) and I used to get hated on by dark women. I love very, very dark skin which I admit is unusual to most Blacks if you are also very dark. I think dark skin being beautiful was reinforced in my family, my mom, aunts, etc.

In school and the streets it wasn't good when I was very little in elementary school but now its cool. I have heard dark skin women say light skin women are the preference and I'd agree, generally speaking.

However, the one thing I have seen is that no matter the complexion, if you are cute with a nice body, you are getting hollared at regularly. I've worked with and known very dark, cute sisters with nice bodies and get macked to by black, white, other men. And the dark sisters who complain the most about colorism? Real talk...its not their complexion. They are often too thick/big and average looks at best. Also, attitude.

Whoopie Goldberg complained about colorism when she was growing up and dating but c'mon. Whoopie could be light skinned and ain't no one hollaring at her. She isn't cute. Gabriel Union is dark skinned and we were all checking for her when she was young. TLC, Destiny's Child and a few other groups had dark members and we checked for them.

So, your thoughts?

 

[StayingHumble]

I can only speak on my family but my sister is light skin and my moms made an emphasis that all in our house don't make any comments about skin color in our household growing up .

 

[ArYkathaGOAT]

I have seen some of this first hand. I'm dark skinned or as we used to say back 'dark skin-did' : ) and I used to get hated on by dark women. I love very, very dark skin which I admit is unusual to most Blacks if you are also very dark. I think dark skin being beautiful was reinforced in my family, my mom, aunts, etc.

In school and the streets it wasn't good when I was very little in elementary school but now its cool. I have heard dark skin women say light skin women are the preference and I'd agree, generally speaking.

However, the one thing I have seen is that no matter the complexion, if you are cute with a nice body, you are getting hollared at regularly. I've worked with and known very dark, cute sisters with nice bodies and get macked to by black, white, other men. And the dark sisters who complain the most about colorism? Real talk...its not their complexion. They are often too thick/big and average looks at best. Also, attitude.

Whoopie Goldberg complained about colorism when she was growing up and dating but c'mon. Whoopie could be light skinned and ain't no one hollaring at her. She isn't cute. Gabriel Union is dark skinned and we were all checking for her when she was young. TLC, Destiny's Child and a few other groups had dark members and we checked for them.

So, your thoughts?

Colorism is a mess in Black American society... Being born in the north yet raised in the deep South... I was called everything from a glow worm to raw biscuit Pillsbury Dough girl..
The blue vein hate was so terrible when I first came to Florida, I secretly tanned in the Sun three times a week... Now I look like some type of brown panda bear 😭😩 ... But I've seen many sides of colorism. My best friend, so black they called her black Jesus, with natural hair she was tortured all the way up until the age of 15. They threw rocks at her and called her a Haitian... And they (her family) had her in the mindset to be "humble" and not fight back, where mysy being the redbone they told me I BETTER fight back. The sh!t is ridiculous and has to stop. I don't allow my tribe to BELIEVE, the percentage of melanin dictates our hierarchy in society. ... Be honest, nobody REALLY likes Gabrielle Union. Her personality is so vanilla even though she's in a beautiful chocolate shell.

 

[Jay]

I don't even think it's that bad and it's because there is no financial or social benefit to it. I personally saw colorism as jokes between dark and light skinned Blacks but nothing serious. At least not like it probably was during slavery where the Slave Master's kid would have more privileges or like in Central and South America where the lighter you are the closer you can get to White society. The racism is so strict here that if you're any part Black the benefits are cut off.

 

[ArYkathaGOAT]

I don't even think it's that bad and it's because there is no financial or social benefit to it. I personally saw colorism as jokes between dark and light skinned Blacks but nothing serious. At least not like it probably was during slavery where the Slave Master's kid would have more privileges or like in Central and South America where the lighter you are the closer you can get to White society. The racism is so strict here that if you're any part Black the benefits are cut off.

🤟🏾 Yeah it's cool until we end up doing/having the Michael B Jordan moment with one of our former class bullies 😭😅😅🤓 I thought I was "corny" ... Talk about PTSD 🤭

 

[Jay]

🤟🏾 Yeah it's cool until we end up doing/having the Michael B Jordan moment with one of our former class bullies 😭😅😅🤓 I thought I was "corny" ... Talk about PTSD 🤭

I been there, I was the corny dude. But I didn’t care because I knew they were destined for crack cocaine, jail, and obesity.

 

[GwynShivers]

I been there, I was the corny dude. But I didn’t care because I knew they were destined for crack cocaine, jail, and obesity.

I was the Jiggabo, until I laid a few of them out. Then, I was the crazy girl & they weren't harmed.

 

[Sovereign]

I was the Jiggabo, until I laid a few of them out. Then, I was the crazy girl & they weren't harmed.

A jigaboo? How old are you? That’s that old school shit talking.

 

[GwynShivers]

A jigaboo? How old are you? That’s that old school shit talking.

I'm Ol' Skool & I'll be 66 on June 7th. Sambo was used also, but not after we punched them in their faces.

 

[GwynShivers]

A jigaboo? How old are you? That’s that old school shit talking.

The N word was only used by white teens & white adults back then.
You got your ass handed to you, if you did let that word slip out!

 

[MR-D-ROB]

So this is another one of those opinions of mine that's probably going to be split.
In her younger years Whoopi Goldberg wasn't bad looking. The media presented her that way.
They wanted us to feel like dark women were ugly or less.

But look at these photos of Whoopi.( I'll add photos in separate post) She wasn't ridiculously cute but she was in my opinion attractive. She had a nice physique and good smooth skin(which I'm a sucker for regardless of skin tone). I'd say in her younger years she was above average.

 

[MR-D-ROB]

Whoopi

 

[MR-D-ROB]

Whoopi Goldberg

 

[MR-D-ROB]

Whoopi Goldberg

 

[RCNAL]

I been there, I was the corny dude. But I didn’t care because I knew they were destined for crack cocaine, jail, and obesity.

Same here. I don't trip on it as an adult, I have reached out when I was in town to the brothers and a few were acting arms distant. I wasn't mean to them but I am guessing they think I would look down on them because they are just working basic gigs, etc, and comparatively I seem like I've done way better but it's not my view of them. They are brothers, part of my childhood and as adults just trying to re-connect with brothas from back in the day as men now. Some can't make that transition I guess.

 

[RCNAL]

I'm Ol' Skool & I'll be 66 on June 7th. Sambo was used also, but not after we punched them in their faces.

You look GREAT fam, but black don't crack.

 

[RCNAL]

Whoopi Goldberg

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I was in a corporate b-ball league in LA way back in the day when I was working there. Our company had a game against an entertainment company and Whoopi was there. 2 white boys were arguing about driving her home and it was funny. She was there without make up. She wasn't cute. The pics above are pics that your agent and PR person puts out. The lighting, make up, etc, is done. Those are professional shots. Look at her in A Color Purple without make up. Pretty much any woman can look decent. Facebook is full of women who put up glam photos and have all her peoples saying 'gorgeous', etc, Whoopi at her best, meaning dressed up and glam'd up is datable, but after the make up is off...well...and I am NOT tryna be mean. I have a preference for very dark women, but cute is cute, her early one woman shows where she was wishing she was a blonde white girl as a kid, she was not cute and she was young at that time, in her 20s I think. That's not about being dark.

 

[Troy]

Whoopi Goldberg

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She looked strange but I’d hit it.

 

[RCNAL]

She looked strange but I’d hit it.

The Whoopi in that pic could get smashed. I've smashed women I'm trying to forget. lol

But Whoopi in that pic wouldn't be one of them.

 

[MR-D-ROB]

I was in a corporate b-ball league in LA way back in the day when I was working there. Our company had a game against an entertainment company and Whoopi was there. 2 white boys were arguing about driving her home and it was funny. She was there without make up. She wasn't cute. The pics above are pics that your agent and PR person puts out. The lighting, make up, etc, is done. Those are professional shots. Look at her in A Color Purple without make up. Pretty much any woman can look decent. Facebook is full of women who put up glam photos and have all her peoples saying 'gorgeous', etc, Whoopi at her best, meaning dressed up and glam'd up is datable, but after the make up is off...well...and I am NOT tryna be mean. I have a preference for very dark women, but cute is cute, her early one woman shows where she was wishing she was a blonde white girl as a kid, she was not cute and she was young at that time, in her 20s I think. That's not about being dark.

That's pretty much the majority of women. There are a lot of women that without makeup look either average or less than average. And again this is nothing to do with skin tone. If your colorist though you will tend to think dark skin women are ugly without makeup.

J-Lo is not all that without makeup. Cardi B isn't all that without makeup.

In color purple they wanted her to look as unkept as possible because that was the role in the movie. And you said when you saw her it was at a b-ball league. Why would any woman get dolled up to play sports when they're just going to sweat it off anyway?

There are women that are just good looking even without makeup. But it would be quite rare to find a woman that looks better without makeup than with.

My wife is cute without makeup but I'm not going to sit here and lie she looks a lot better with it.

That's the case with Whoopi. She isn't horrible without makeup but she's better with it. That's normal.

I do take issue with something that call make up sorcery. You can Google that but it's pretty much where a woman looks like a completely different person without than with make up. See example below.

I'm not saying Whoopi is a dime or the most gorgeous woman in the world. I'm simply saying dressed up and dolled up a young Whoopi wouldn't be turned down by a sizeable number of men.

Now whether or not she's your type is a different conversation.

 

[GwynShivers]

You look GREAT fam, but black don't crack.

Thanks fam! ✊🏽😁 Your right. Black don't crack, unless you use it! 💯

 

[RCNAL]

Once again, I think a lot of our internal issues can be rectified with on code behavior and that is the same with colorism. It's off code to hate on someone due to complexion and that is yet one of a variety of internal issues we have that will be rectified to a great degree, not totally, but to a large degree with B1, on code behavior.

It's wrong to tell someone who likes light skin women as their dating preference he's off code for that. It is right however to tell that person who treats a non light skin woman less respect. Or tries to tell his son or other men not to date a certain complexion.

 

[RCNAL]

I heard it said that attraction is a not a choice. Acting on it is. I'm not the d*ck detective or the coochie cop. You like or love who you want. I'd be a hypocrite otherwise. At least once I've dated (or more accurately smashed) pretty much every religion, race and different ethnicities in my many travels domestically and internationally. Dating is a bit more of a 'relationship' word. Anyway, that said, my personal judgment of blacks who date outside their race is not to shyt on your own people. If you are a black woman who is talking sh*t about black men, you are anti black. Conversely if you are a brotha with a non black woman talking cr@p about black woman you are anti black. Same with liking the same gender, if you are more pro your sexual orientation than pro black, I will take issue. Because by definition, you are pro non black gays over blacks as a collective. In my view, and its my personal view, you can't be anti one black gender and be pro black. Intellectually, no one has ever been able to make it make sense to me.