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Is it me or is Monday Night Raw some trash?

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I watched this growing up with my brother. Tried to get back into it in like 2016 and I just couldn't do it. The product is just so bad. Not even my brother who was a life-long fan watches it anymore. He said he only watches AEW now. I never looked into it to know if it is any good.
 

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It has this weird pacing where stuff just happens, and too many people that nobody cares about
I watched this growing up with my brother. Tried to get back into it in like 2016 and I just couldn't do it. The product is just so bad. Not even my brother who was a life-long fan watches it anymore. He said he only watches AEW now. I never looked into it to know if it is any good.
That stuff with Roman and Jay Uso was the only thing they had going that brought me back. For the WWE to be the biggest player, they sure do have a weak roster.

Whenever I watch Raw, it's like the announcers are yelling like OMG! While the crowd is just sitting there. There are people who stay coming out to no heat.
 

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It has this weird pacing where stuff just happens, and too many people that nobody cares about

That stuff with Roman and Jay Uso was the only thing they had going that brought me back. For the WWE to be the biggest player, they sure do have a weak roster.

Whenever I watch Raw, it's like the announcers are yelling like OMG! While the crowd is just sitting there. There are people who stay coming out to no heat.
I don’t really rock with wrasslin but AEW had some raggedy bouts. The Guevara and Hardy fight sequence outside of the ring is some of the worst shit I’ve seen. Jobbers in WWE have given better performances.

 

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    I don’t really rock with wrasslin but AEW had some raggedy bouts. The Guevara and Hardy fight sequence outside of the ring is some of the worst shit I’ve seen. Jobbers in WWE have given better performances.

    AEW is booty butt cheeks they like the XFL to the NFL. That dude Darby cut some of the cheesiest promos. Chris Jericho was on there looking like Larry Holmes, Abadon was wack.

    I can't front though their main events have been decent so has their tag title scene too.
     
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    I've been a fan of wrestling most of my life, and WWE was something that I enjoyed often. But the product isn't the same anymore. I loved wrestling around the time of the Monday night wars. That's when it was at its prime I think, especially around the time the nWo, Sting, Heel Hogan, DX, Nation of Domination, Stone Cold, etc.

    There's no creativity with wrestling anymore, just repackaging the same characters. Did you see the gimmick this poor sap got?
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    They built this dude up to be something in NXT, and then they make him look like some weird looking gimp from mad max or something and make him lose a bunch.

    As for AEW, I feel like they get a ton more freedom, but damn they are trying way too hard. They really gotta show they ain't "PG" like the WWE by saying "shit" every 5 seconds. I don't mind Darby Allin, but dude can't talk whatsoever. Also looks like a scrub I knew in high school, so I kinda cringe when he's on tv. But I like that he sells a lot, and puts other wrestlers over.

    While I'm here, I'm going to share one of my favorite series on YouTube, called Botchamania. It's made by one dude who looks out for botches (fails) in wrestling and just general dumb and humorous stuff you'd see in wrastlin.

     

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    I've been a fan of wrestling most of my life, and WWE was something that I enjoyed often. But the product isn't the same anymore. I loved wrestling around the time of the Monday night wars. That's when it was at its prime I think, especially around the time the nWo, Sting, Heel Hogan, DX, Nation of Domination, Stone Cold, etc.

    There's no creativity with wrestling anymore, just repackaging the same characters. Did you see the gimmick this poor sap got?
    karrion-kross-696x385.jpg

    They built this dude up to be something in NXT, and then they make him look like some weird looking gimp from mad max or something and make him lose a bunch.

    As for AEW, I feel like they get a ton more freedom, but damn they are trying way too hard. They really gotta show they ain't "PG" like the WWE by saying "shit" every 5 seconds. I don't mind Darby Allin, but dude can't talk whatsoever. Also looks like a scrub I knew in high school, so I kinda cringe when he's on tv. But I like that he sells a lot, and puts other wrestlers over.

    While I'm here, I'm going to share one of my favorite series on YouTube, called Botchamania. It's made by one dude who looks out for botches (fails) in wrestling and just general dumb and humorous stuff you'd see in wrastlin.


    I have to watch this.
     

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    I was a huge wrestling fan growing up like a lot of kids were but then when I discovered girls I grew out of it and never looked back lol
    You went from watching dudes grab each other to grabbing shorties. I see you:

    Will Smith Yes GIF by Bad Boys For Life
     

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    I was a huge wrestling fan growing up like a lot of kids were but then when I discovered girls I grew out of it and never looked back lol
    Once the Rock and Stone Cold nem left I stopped watching, but I’ve been keeping up. I came back for the Kofi run. Even though they ended up jobbing him out.

    This Brock Roman Heyman stuff is good. I don’t think Roman is dropping the strap though.
     
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    Once the Rock and Stone Cold nem left I stopped watching, but I’ve been keeping up. I came back for the Kofi run. Even though they ended up jobbing him out.

    This Brock Roman Heyman stuff is good. I don’t think Roman is dropping the strap though.
    Man stop lying you never stopped watching it.
     

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    Once the Rock and Stone Cold nem left I stopped watching, but I’ve been keeping up. I came back for the Kofi run. Even though they ended up jobbing him out.

    This Brock Roman Heyman stuff is good. I don’t think Roman is dropping the strap though.
    Yea same, early 2000s, that was when i tapped out. I love that the brand and culture is in tact tho. I just completely out grew it
     

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    Yea same, early 2000s, that was when i tapped out. I love that the brand and culture is in tact tho. I just completely out grew it
    Yeah bruh when I started watching and thinking: “there’s no way the insurance company backing this show is allowing stone code to body slam X-Pac off the top of an RV backstage and then drive out the arena on a motorcycle with no helmet” I was done. The realities of the world started clashing with what I was was watchinG.
     
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    Once the Rock and Stone Cold nem left I stopped watching, but I’ve been keeping up. I came back for the Kofi run. Even though they ended up jobbing him out.

    This Brock Roman Heyman stuff is good. I don’t think Roman is dropping the strap though.
    I dropped off of the product a few times. I couldn't stand Cena back in the mid to late 2000s, because it felt like no one could ever beat him, and he had the championships way too long. I then got back into wrestling again about 2011-2013, when Daniel Bryan was on his run, and then I kinda lost interest again. I mean, I still check our Raw from time to time, but it's not as much anymore, same with smackdown. I will watch it once in a while, or just watch clips of it on YouTube instead. Same with AEW. I've been watching that more often, but I find that I skip more and more shows.

    He definitely will not be dropping it to Brock. They'd be crazy to have Roman drop it right now. He's on the run of his career if anything, and I think it will end at a much bigger show and against someone else.

    Monday Night Raw has been trash since 2009 the guest host era and it really never recovered.
    I'd argue even later than that. I think they called that the PG era, and yeah, that killed the product quite a bit. I'd say them going back to 3 hours is what hurt them a lot. They at one points were at just 2 hours, which is perfect imo. But they have to get those advertising dollars I guess.
     

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    I dropped off of the product a few times. I couldn't stand Cena back in the mid to late 2000s, because it felt like no one could ever beat him, and he had the championships way too long. I then got back into wrestling again about 2011-2013, when Daniel Bryan was on his run, and then I kinda lost interest again. I mean, I still check our Raw from time to time, but it's not as much anymore, same with smackdown. I will watch it once in a while, or just watch clips of it on YouTube instead. Same with AEW. I've been watching that more often, but I find that I skip more and more shows.

    He definitely will not be dropping it to Brock. They'd be crazy to have Roman drop it right now. He's on the run of his career if anything, and I think it will end at a much bigger show and against someone else.


    I'd argue even later than that. I think they called that the PG era, and yeah, that killed the product quite a bit. I'd say them going back to 3 hours is what hurt them a lot. They at one points were at just 2 hours, which is perfect imo. But they have to get those advertising dollars I guess.
    The time to turn Cena heel came and went and came and went and came and went again. It absolutely should have happened during he summer of Punk. The double turn was all set up and fans were begging for it.

    I like Roman, and I like what he's doing, but it is a little too obvious that he aint dropping that belt before Wrestlemania. But knowing Vince, he will give it to Brock before Brock leaves again just to make everything worse.