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Latinos are against reparations for Foundational Black Americans due to anti-Black racist jealousy.

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Latinos, such as Mexican Americans and Chicanos of California, are vehemently against reparations for Foundational Black Americans due to sheer jealousy rooted in anti-Black racism.​


From the Chicano Post:
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Translation: WHAT ABOUT ME?! WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEE??!!! IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THEM!!!!!! IF WE CAN'T HAVE WHAT THEY ARE OWED, THEN THEY DON'T DESERVE IT EITHER!!! MEJORAR LA RAZA. A la mierda esas negras y mayates!!!

Blk Californians May Get $223K In Reparations But Some Mexican-Americans Disagree With It​

 

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    EVERYONE in the country is going to be upset, we just have to stay focused. Remember, they hate the Black people in their country so there is no love for us.

    In addition, not only is it jealousy if is also a changing of the order. A real reparations program is going to heal the Black community and a lot of groups that find their worth in anti-Blackness are going to have to find something else base their worth off of.

    A strong Black American community changes the USA in its totality.
     

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    They can stay mad. We don’t have a day how they advocate and they do not have a say about how we advocate for ourselves.

    Notice how EVERYONE is against our justice claim? It shows that their purpose in this country is to be an anti-black buffer and ensure that the power structure remains in tact.

    It doesn’t matter though, the US owes a debt and we WILL collect. #ReparationsNow
     

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    They can stay mad. We don’t have a day how they advocate and they do not have a say about how we advocate for ourselves.

    Notice how EVERYONE is against our justice claim? It shows that their purpose in this country is to be an anti-black buffer and ensure that the power structure remains in tact.

    It doesn’t matter though, the US owes a debt and we WILL collect. #ReparationsNow
    Right on the money. They’re doing their jobs and playing the “oppressed minority” game to derail our conversation and the second it’s over they go back to being surrogate Whites. I stopped arguing with people about Black issues because they don’t argue in good faith.
     

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    EVERYONE in the country is going to be upset, we just have to stay focused. Remember, they hate the Black people in their country so there is no love for us.

    In addition, not only is it jealousy if is also a changing of the order. A real reparations program is going to heal the Black community and a lot of groups that find their worth in anti-Blackness are going to have to find something else base their worth off of.

    A strong Black American community changes the USA in its totality.
    Well said...
     

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    EVERYONE in the country is going to be upset, we just have to stay focused. Remember, they hate the Black people in their country so there is no love for us.

    In addition, not only is it jealousy if is also a changing of the order. A real reparations program is going to heal the Black community and a lot of groups that find their worth in anti-Blackness are going to have to find something else base their worth off of.

    A strong Black American community changes the USA in its totality.
    UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL! ✊🏽❤️✊🏽
     

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    Right on the money. They’re doing their jobs and playing the “oppressed minority” game to derail our conversation and the second it’s over they go back to being surrogate Whites. I stopped arguing with people about Black issues because they don’t argue in good faith.
    Exactly!!!!! In Cali they have cut education left and right, but they provide resources and services exclusively for English Language Learners- essentially solely investing in Hispanic and Asian families and children while excluding non-immigrant children and families.
     

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    Exactly!!!!! In Cali they have cut education left and right, but they provide resources and services exclusively for English Language Learners- essentially solely investing in Hispanic and Asian families and children while excluding non-immigrant children and families.
    If we don't understand & agree that WE'RE ALL WE'VE GOT by now, our future generations will cease to exist!
     

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    Exactly!!!!! In Cali they have cut education left and right, but they provide resources and services exclusively for English Language Learners- essentially solely investing in Hispanic and Asian families and children while excluding non-immigrant children and families.
    They’re using that “track” system where they’ll put the Black children on the poor track with the subpar teachers and classes and the other kids on the better tracks with all the resources. They will all be going to the same school but the experiences are totally different. The entire system is a scam and it makes no sense to argue with the beneficiaries of the scam as they have a motive to keep the scam running. Either the game becomes fair we have to break the crap table.
     

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    The ones who will fight it the most aren't going to be white people. It's going to be immigrants. Whites know they owe it. Even the racist ones. The immigrant class will fight it the most because they fear losing their buffer status.

    Whites think even if they pay it they will be socially dominant over us. They are white and will always see themselves as better than us. But the immigrants will fear being replaced socioeconomically.

    Latinos will be against it the most. And they will be openly and vile about it. You are going to hear all the 'mayate' (LA blacks know this term) comments come out and it may spill out in the prisons and street gangs. Asians almost as much but they'll be quieter about it. Ashkenazi Jews will have a deep conversation of wanting to permanently alienate Blacks by being against it openly. The liberal ones will be for it publicly. The orthodox ones who are lawyers will be the ones in court helping to file lawsuits to stop it.

    It will also force non FBA blacks into one side or another. Black conservatives will say all the things that white convservatives want to say and will say the most vile things. The bedwenches will obviously.

    The other big test will be for black entertainers and athletes. The athletes will support before entertainers will I'm guessing just like they were ahead of the BLM/George marches before celebs were. A lot of rappers will be along too.

    My guess also it will send a lot of people to the Republican party if the Dems propose it. You may get a Republican to do it as a 3D chess move. It does happen. The deep south were Democrats in the '50s and '60s (Dixiecrats). The last people to vote for Civil Rights some thought. And they ended up being the party that pushed it with a racist Texan at the head of it. You'd have been laughed at if you even proposed that as a movie in 1950.
     

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    The ones who will fight it the most aren't going to be white people. It's going to be immigrants. Whites know they owe it. Even the racist ones. The immigrant class will fight it the most because they fear losing their buffer status.

    Whites think even if they pay it they will be socially dominant over us. They are white and will always see themselves as better than us. But the immigrants will fear being replaced socioeconomically.

    Latinos will be against it the most. And they will be openly and vile about it. You are going to hear all the 'mayate' (LA blacks know this term) comments come out and it may spill out in the prisons and street gangs. Asians almost as much but they'll be quieter about it. Ashkenazi Jews will have a deep conversation of wanting to permanently alienate Blacks by being against it openly. The liberal ones will be for it publicly. The orthodox ones who are lawyers will be the ones in court helping to file lawsuits to stop it.

    It will also force non FBA blacks into one side or another. Black conservatives will say all the things that white convservatives want to say and will say the most vile things. The bedwenches will obviously.

    The other big test will be for black entertainers and athletes. The athletes will support before entertainers will I'm guessing just like they were ahead of the BLM/George marches before celebs were. A lot of rappers will be along too.

    My guess also it will send a lot of people to the Republican party if the Dems propose it. You may get a Republican to do it as a 3D chess move. It does happen. The deep south were Democrats in the '50s and '60s (Dixiecrats). The last people to vote for Civil Rights some thought. And they ended up being the party that pushed it with a racist Texan at the head of it. You'd have been laughed at if you even proposed that as a movie in 1950.
    If the Republicans propose it and the Dixiecrats move back to Democrats I will die of laughter.
     

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    I love the reference to an actual document Mejorar La Raza " TO better ht Race" and that race was basically white. HyperDescent vs HypoDescent but clearly they don't understand that Native Americans already got their reparations and Mexicans were Spaniards who broke off to do their own thing...so they are white too. Mexicans in particular don't seem to realize that they're culturally European even those that claim "Chicano" although that title simply means you have some Native American blood. The other part is that they have been using breaking dancing and other black art forms and calling it chicanoculture because they wear something like a "Zoot Suit" when they do it. Either way Mexico is so prejudiced against Blacks that they kept them off their documents until 2017 Mexico Finally Recognized Its Black Citizens, But That's Just The Beginning Mexico also owes some of us some money based on how they treated the Black Indians who went down there following the Seminole wars against Andrew Jackson. I don't believe in that Black and Brown alliances because I've never seen it and they typically join white people when it comes down to it. They will USE us when they feel like they don't have numerical strength but they are no different than those Brahman Indians who think they're white in my opinion. They only deal with us when it's convenient but honestly they are threatened by us like everyone else.
     

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    Listen, im born and raised in Cali and i can tell you first hand Mexicans are very jealous of black people. If they're not mimicking us they're undermining us or some odd combination of both
    You’re in the Bay too so you saying that is a lot. In So. Cal. they have outright contempt but then copy everything we do. It is the strangest dynamic. A person that hates Black people but is bumping War.

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    He sounds like a whiny bitch. I'm trying to figure out what Mexicans deserve reparations for? The only thing I can think of is white people taking taco recipes but I could be wrong. We are owed a debt & the debt will be paid. All these other groups have to pay the tribute to Freedmen which is reparations. On a side note, the white man could have just enslaved Mexicans & forced them to go North. He must have figured out they're too lazy for nation building.
     

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    You’re in the Bay too so you saying that is a lot. In So. Cal. they have outright contempt but then copy everything we do. It is the strangest dynamic. A person that hates Black people but is bumping War.

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    Yea in the bay there's no outright hatred like in LA. A lot of bay Mexicans do love our culture and respect it. They be all in the black barbershop n shit. I think that comfort we gave them is the reason for my first post.

    In LA, I believe the direct proximity to Mexico is why they are the way they are towards us. Its pretty much a white supremacist, territorial mentality
     

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    Yea in the bay there's no outright hatred like in LA. A lot of bay Mexicans do love our culture and respect it. They be all in the black barbershop n shit. I think that comfort we gave them is the reason for my first post.

    In LA, I believe the direct proximity to Mexico is why they are the way they are towards us. Its pretty much a white supremacist, territorial mentality
    That depends on where you're at. In the 60s on what's now international they used to be cool but now that they're more of them they act different. Also, down the street from Fruitvale Bart was the first time I had ever been shot at and it was by some Mexicans. When I went to Hayward High for my last two years of High School I had to G chec Northerners ALL DAY. They only cool with us out of necessity. And none of their "Big Osos" can fight
     

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    They’re using that “track” system where they’ll put the Black children on the poor track with the subpar teachers and classes and the other kids on the better tracks with all the resources. They will all be going to the same school but the experiences are totally different. The entire system is a scam and it makes no sense to argue with the beneficiaries of the scam as they have a motive to keep the scam running. Either the game becomes fair we have to break the crap table.
    Even if some of those Black children do end up with better teachers as well as AP classes and Honor classes, they still have to deal with anti-Black racist teachers', students', students' parents', and faculty's microaggressions, condescension, bullying, undermining, coldness, and passive aggression towards them.
     

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    Yea in the bay there's no outright hatred like in LA. A lot of bay Mexicans do love our culture and respect it. They be all in the black barbershop n shit. I think that comfort we gave them is the reason for my first post.

    In LA, I believe the direct proximity to Mexico is why they are the way they are towards us. Its pretty much a white supremacist, territorial mentality
    It’s actually because of the Mexican Mafia which to my knowledge doesn’t have a foothold in the North. La Eme which is what they are called does not like Black people at all and they run the black market in the Hispanic community. So if you are Hispanic and trying to do anything illegal you have to go through La Eme or else they will kill you.

    So basically a lot of the outright hatred is because if they don’t show it up they will get banged on for being off code. Any gang that put up 13 which represents the letter M is immediately anti-Black.

    That’s not to discount the anti-Blackness in Mexico, it’s just explaining the difference between so cal and nor cal. The Mexican Mafia is down here and everyone that reps it claims south sider. Which is also why they don’t rock with Mexicans in the north because the Mexicans in the north don’t bang the 13.
     

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    It’s actually because of the Mexican Mafia which to my knowledge doesn’t have a foothold in the North. La Eme which is what they are called does not like Black people at all and they run the black market in the Hispanic community. So if you are Hispanic and trying to do anything illegal you have to go through La Eme or else they will kill you.

    So basically a lot of the outright hatred is because if they don’t show it up they will get banged on for being off code. Any gang that put up 13 which represents the letter M is immediately anti-Black.

    That’s not to discount the anti-Blackness in Mexico, it’s just explaining the difference between so cal and nor cal. The Mexican Mafia is down here and everyone that reps it claims south sider. Which is also why they don’t rock with Mexicans in the north because the Mexicans in the north don’t bang the 13.
    There is no difference honestly because Nortes are a branch of Nuestra Familia but they don't have the same numbers so in some areas they try and be cool with Blacks, particularly when they are locked up but on the outside too. I won't lie I do see some messy stuff from Northerners that you don't see from South Siders like letting Blacks, mostly mixed Blacks and whites join but that's because they are outnumbered. However, in places like Hayward and now Oakland because they have the numbers now they don't really deal with Black people unless it's on a business tip. It can appear like they are "cool" because they will dress and use the slang but it ain't genuine. The problem with the Bay in general is that black people are messy as hell with their politics and how they associate. So they don't necessarily peep until certain situations arise. I don't like Nortes personally and although I have met some individuals who were cool, I don't really mess with them as a whole. South Siders don't deal with Black people at all unless it's business or a SUPER personal tip but they'll let you know what's up as far as what to expect from the friendship in certain situations.

    But There are reputable Surenos sets in SF, Berkley and San Jose. Everywhere else they not official but they go at XIV and any other latin group like Border Brothers tough out here. They also wear blue up here which as someone who knows a lil something is funny to me but whatever the Bay is messy.

    La EME last I checked had an alliance or an understanding with the Aryans too if I'm not mistaken but I've heard that so I don't want to say that like it's fact.
     

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    Latinos will be against it the most. And they will be openly and vile about it. You are going to hear all the 'mayate' (LA blacks know this term) comments come out and it may spill out in the prisons and street gangs. Asians almost as much but they'll be quieter about it.
    Totally ironic that they will have Latino Hip Hop and Chicano Rap and Mexican Hip Hop, make money off the Black community, claim they founded and invented hip hop period, steal a lot of our culture and slang and even steal lowrider culture and our ancestors' soul and R&B music and claim it all as their own all while looking down upon and shitting on us Black American people. Same with these anti-Black Asians and racist ass K-Pop stars. The absolute nerve and lack of shame. The disgustingly disgraceful conquistador, culture vulture, conqueror, colonizer mentality of it all.

    A lot of them are even trying to gaslight and falsely claim that "mayate" means "homosexual or bisexual" (which is what it supposedly meant before) and not "bug", "beetle", or "roach."

    Google the word "mayate" and you'll see results like this:

    Google doesn't list all of the complete translations. You have to know them by heart.


    Ashkenazi Jews will have a deep conversation of wanting to permanently alienate Blacks by being against it openly. The liberal ones will be for it publicly. The orthodox ones who are lawyers will be the ones in court helping to file lawsuits to stop it.
    It's beyond sad and yet bizarrely ironic considering that the white Jewish got their reparations for the Holocaust from Germany and the USA. Not to mention, Black activists from the 20th century even fought for Israel to have rights and statehood. This is seriously the thanks that we get for our good deeds for all of these non-Black SOBs. Unbelievable. Downright Treacherous.

    My guess also it will send a lot of people to the Republican party if the Dems propose it. You may get a Republican to do it as a 3D chess move. It does happen. The deep south were Democrats in the '50s and '60s (Dixiecrats). The last people to vote for Civil Rights some thought. And they ended up being the party that pushed it with a racist Texan at the head of it. You'd have been laughed at if you even proposed that as a movie in 1950.
    This is going to really shine light and reveal all of the phony white liberals, white trans, white gays, non-Black "people of color" and "minorities" to be the roaches, bed bugs, poisonous spiders, and leeches that were crawling in the dark all along. The open racists will welcome them with open arms. They will all be revealed to be against us.
     

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    Totally ironic that they will have Latino Hip Hop and Chicano Rap and Mexican Hip Hop, make money off the Black community, claim they founded and invented hip hop period, steal a lot of our culture and slang and even steal lowrider culture and our ancestors' soul and R&B music and claim it all as their own all while looking down upon and shitting on us Black American people. Same with these anti-Black Asians and racist ass K-Pop stars. The absolute nerve and lack of shame. The disgustingly disgraceful conquistador, culture vulture, conqueror, colonizer mentality of it all.

    A lot of them are even trying to gaslight and falsely claim that it means "homosexual or bisexual" (which is what it supposedly meant before) and not "bug", "beetle", or "roach."

    Google the word "mayate" and you'll see results like this:

    Google doesn't list all of the complete translations. You have to know them by heart.



    It's beyond sad and yet bizarrely ironic considering that the white Jewish got their reparations for the Holocaust from Germany and the USA. Not to mention, Black activists from the 20th century even fought for Israel to have rights and statehood. This is seriously the thanks that we get for our good deeds for all of these non-Black SOBs. Unbelievable. Downright Treacherous.


    This is going to really shine light and reveal all of the phony white liberals, white trans, white gays, non-Black "people of color" and "minorities" to be the roaches, bed bugs, poisonous spiders, and leeches that were crawling in the dark all along will the open racists welcome them with open arms. They will all be revealed to be against us.

    I thought it was Mallarte with the double "L" for the "yuh" sound but they have so many words for n****r in spanish and it proves they have a history of anti blackness because why do those words exist in so many versions of the language. I wouldn't be surprised if mallarte was derived from mayate because it sounds like something they would do. They also have different words for gay too which also says a lot about their culture.
     

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    Listen, im born and raised in Cali and i can tell you first hand Mexicans are very jealous of black people. If they're not mimicking us they're undermining us or some odd combination of both
    "F-ck you nigga. I can say the word "nigga" cause we all niggas, RIGHT MY NIGGA?! (LAUGHS)"

    "NAH cuz, I can't hire you, I gotta help my peoples."

    "I'm oppressed too dawg! Like why are you being so racist towards us Mexicans homes?!"
     

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    He sounds like a whiny bitch. I'm trying to figure out what Mexicans deserve reparations for? The only thing I can think of is white people taking taco recipes but I could be wrong. We are owed a debt & the debt will be paid. All these other groups have to pay the tribute to Freedmen which is reparations. On a side note, the white man could have just enslaved Mexicans & forced them to go North. He must have figured out they're too lazy for nation building.
    Mexicans are white people mixed with a lil bit of other. In Texas they are SUPER racist but after the treaty of Guadalupe the wealthy women married White men so they could keep their fortunes. Either way they think they are white but white zaddy hasn't given them the "OK" yet.
     

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    That depends on where you're at. In the 60s on what's now international they used to be cool but now that they're more of them they act different. Also, down the street from Fruitvale Bart was the first time I had ever been shot at and it was by some Mexicans. When I went to Hayward High for my last two years of High School I had to G chec Northerners ALL DAY. They only cool with us out of necessity. And none of their "Big Osos" can fight
    since we are on the topic the "C" being left out is a typo. I only just noticed that it isn't there and I'm not a member. Just to clarify since we are on the subject.
     

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    "We have no friends"
    The California prison system if you really look it breaks down to your relationship with Blacks.
    In all the state prisons on one side of the yard you have Mexicans from Bakersfield south, euphemism "Surenos" (Southerners, southen cali). All Whites are on their side, from all parts of California. The whites are usually the smallest or next to smallest (Others...get to that later), in prisons and years ago made an alliance with the Surenos. If the Surenos fight in a war in prisons (usually with Blacks) they have to. No choice. But not the reverse. It's up to Surenos and its situational. The last group is the Paisas. These are Mexican nationals. Born and raised for the most part in Mexico but these days Salvadoreans and other central Americans. A lot of them are cartel related smugglers who got caught or Illegals who did a crime. They all have a loose alliance, can eat and do business with each other in prison.

    On the other side of the yard are Blacks. These are Crips, Bloods, and just regular brothers from all of California. Depending on numbers, if big enough Crips have their own set, Bloods have their own set and also by city. Also on that side are the 'Others', these are all non Latino/Central American latinos, non White, Non Black prisoners, Pacific Islanders, Asians, even Arabs and often Puerto Ricans or Cubans who are from the east coast and for whatever reason got caught up in some crime and convicted. Nortenos are also on this side. These are Mexicans that live north of Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto all the way up to the Bay.

    Neither side of the yard f*cks witih the other, generally. Its all situational. The fighting is situational. Some fights are 'on sight'. Surenos and Nortenos used to fight on sight. Didn't matter where or when you got it in. The Surrenos may 'green light' , same thing as on sight maybe just Crips or Bloods. Sometimes its just Asian gangs. In Long Beach the Asian gangs often beef with the Mexicans. The biggest of which are Longos (spanish for Long...Long Beach). And if its bad enough, it goes into the prisons and those Asian gangs are on sight. Long Beach also has the largest Cambodian population in America I think or close to it and they are Cambodian Crip sets. It gets a bit complicated.

    On the street southern Cali Mexican gangs kill each other, like Florence 13 and 18th Street in LA. But in prison they are forced to be allies. You could have a 18th Street member be the shot caller over his Florence 13 rival (based on seniority and age) in prison but see each other on the street and shoot each other. Why? Le Eme, and all Southern cali gangs must include 13 (13th lettter- M) incorporated into their name. If you are Gardena mexican gang you are Gardena 13 or Gardena Trece (spanish for 13).

    Its all a bit confusing even if you are in Cali. But the irony is California known as the most liberal state with all these liberal laws and the prison is possibly the most racially segregated.

    Things that may spark a war? A white crip or blood. It happens. Or a Latino crip or blood. It happens. Whites and Southern Mexicans always demand any white or mexican crip leave the yard and go into PC (Protective custody). But Blacks don't trip if there is a black in a Mexican gang (it happens). Its one sided actually.

    The largest group by far are the Surenos. That being said, Blacks are the best fighters by far. Generally, Blacks will see a 2-1 fight as an equal fight, 100 v 50 of them. Blacks stay the most 'battle ready'. Every day pretty much there are 'fades' (fights) between Blacks. No knives, shanks, just hands for any number of reasons. A new Crip comes in and his rival on the street asks for a fade. A guy gets fouled too hard on the basketball court and no foul and asks for a fade later. You must fight.

    Lastly, one thing that is universal among ALL groups on the yard the following people aren't allowed on the yard period:

    1. You are charged for being a molester or harmed a child.
    2. You were charged for rape.
    3. You snitched on someone.

    When you hit the yard you must show your court paperwork. No one tolerates any of those on your paperwork. No exceptions.

    Also, for the most part, rape and homosexuality is no longer accepted in the Cali prison system. Not saying it can't happen but if it does, its generally the Blacks. Mexicans completely outlaw it, so do the whites. Its rare though.

    I'm no expert and I may have gotten some of it wrong, but its my understanding as I know it.
     

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    These days Mexicans especially have the numbers. They are almost twice our population and are feeling themselves. They (and others) want to replace Blacks as the 'minority' who gets the most sympathy and gets the most benefits.

    At this point Mexican groups and large numbers of the masses now feel they can openly challenge Blacks politically, socially, etc. For the most part they feel its okay to get benefits only for themselves but Blacks can't. Any benefit that helps Blacks must help them. The Blacks in political power now 'must' use minority or people of color because they are in districts that are predominantly latino. South Central, Compton is predominantly Latino. Harlem is now Predominantly Latino. So is the Bronx. Any black trying to get elected can't do so without Latino support, so the choice is either accept a Latino or a Black sell out.

    Maxine Waters I've heard doesn't really feel Latinos but must play the game. One strategy is to talk like you are for all but once in support for blacks only for certain things.
     

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    Latinos, such as Mexican Americans and Chicanos of California, are vehemently against reparations for Foundational Black Americans due to sheer jealousy rooted in anti-Black racism.​


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    Translation: WHAT ABOUT ME?! WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEE??!!! IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THEM!!!!!! IF WE CAN'T HAVE WHAT THEY ARE OWED, THEN THEY DON'T DESERVE IT EITHER!!! MEJORAR LA RAZA. A la mierda esas negras y mayates!!!

    Blk Californians May Get $223K In Reparations But Some Mexican-Americans Disagree With It​


    For some reason, many Hispanics are in neverending competition with blacks. I know, I live out here with many Hispanics, and when I was young, I used to get alot of static from Mexicans. They don't have any smoke at all for white people. Many of these people want blacks to forever be on the bottom. No one wants to see blacks come up. People have alot of jealousy when it comes to black folks getting anything. I talked about dealing with other minorities in the Bay Area in my book. I caught alot of hell from other groups when I was young black man living out here in Cali.