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Pay The Police More Money???

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    The police state is supported by both sides.
     
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    That may be true.
    However given that black vote for the Democrats at rates above 85% consistently it should not be. The Democrats should be nearly anti-police especially in support of black people.

    They won't though. Biden and others like him will continue to say "Don't defund the police. Fund the Police." and that's because the black vote is free.

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    There will absolutely be no police reform whatsoever, especially in major cities. The police department of today is run in large part as a revenue generating operation. Cities of mid to large sizes are broke.

    They can only raise sales taxes, income taxes so much. They raise the fines on parking meters but they can only do it by so much. They raise the price of city forms and licences by only so much.

    You can only raise property taxes so much as well as late fees for paying your water, gas, etc.

    So, the police department is needed to raise money. When they write tickets it goes into the city's general fund and the city council and mayor can do whatever the f*ck they want with that money. The police are an unsaid, off the books tax on the people. Police departments do not give warnings any more if you notice. Most cities do away with 'fix it' tickets.

    Former NYC mayor Bill De Blasio, tried to f*ck with the NYPD in 2015. The PD did what is called a 'slow down'. They only responded to felonies (robberies, murder, etc). They stopped pursuing most non violent crime (speeding, parking violations, etc.). It cost NYC at least 5 million in lost revenue and the mayor backed down.

    That's why defund the police, or whatever won't happen. The city councils don't want to lose the money.

     

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    There will absolutely be no police reform whatsoever, especially in major cities. The police department of today is run in large part as a revenue generating operation. Cities of mid to large sizes are broke.

    They can only raise sales taxes, income taxes so much. They raise the fines on parking meters but they can only do it by so much. They raise the price of city forms and licences by only so much.

    You can only raise property taxes so much as well as late fees for paying your water, gas, etc.

    So, the police department is needed to raise money. When they write tickets it goes into the city's general fund and the city council and mayor can do whatever the f*ck they want with that money. The police are an unsaid, off the books tax on the people. Police departments do not give warnings any more if you notice. Most cities do away with 'fix it' tickets.

    Former NYC mayor Bill De Blasio, tried to f*ck with the NYPD in 2015. The PD did what is called a 'slow down'. They only responded to felonies (robberies, murder, etc). They stopped pursuing most non violent crime (speeding, parking violations, etc.). It cost NYC at least 5 million in lost revenue and the mayor backed down.

    That's why defund the police, or whatever won't happen. The city councils don't want to lose the money.

    In addition to all of this, it also protects the powers that be. If there isn’t the police people would go to city hall and smash on them if they got out of line.
     

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    Amerikkka wants to privatize law enforcement....be very careful what we wish for look no further than privatized prison guards.
    End Qualified immunity
    Hold these pigs accountable when they get out of line first offense firing banned from policing anywhere on American soil
    hit insurance funds and retirement pensions when that happens the brutally will stop! Enough playing around with these pigs!
    #NotAnotherDime
     

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    There will absolutely be no police reform whatsoever, especially in major cities. The police department of today is run in large part as a revenue generating operation. Cities of mid to large sizes are broke.

    They can only raise sales taxes, income taxes so much. They raise the fines on parking meters but they can only do it by so much. They raise the price of city forms and licences by only so much.

    You can only raise property taxes so much as well as late fees for paying your water, gas, etc.

    So, the police department is needed to raise money. When they write tickets it goes into the city's general fund and the city council and mayor can do whatever the f*ck they want with that money. The police are an unsaid, off the books tax on the people. Police departments do not give warnings any more if you notice. Most cities do away with 'fix it' tickets.

    Former NYC mayor Bill De Blasio, tried to f*ck with the NYPD in 2015. The PD did what is called a 'slow down'. They only responded to felonies (robberies, murder, etc). They stopped pursuing most non violent crime (speeding, parking violations, etc.). It cost NYC at least 5 million in lost revenue and the mayor backed down.

    That's why defund the police, or whatever won't happen. The city councils don't want to lose the money.

    That's definitely true. Even in small cities and towns.
    When I'm going back home to Louisiana I always find it's far more likely that police set speed traps in small towns than major cities like Houston.

    In the major cities that do exactly what you are saying. They just do it in poor neighborhoods. They target the people who don't even have the money to begin with.

    The more affluent neighborhoods are left alone. There aren't really many police bothering them. They only respond if called in those areas.
     

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    You know what, I think while they do hate and fear protest, the racist dominant society and TPTB rigged the chess game to the point where they are now in win-win situation no matter what happens. They have found conutless ways to both discourage people and control people as a herd no matter what we do or don't do. TPTB got this planned out from top to bottom and they have malevolent backup plans as well.

    If they and their corrupt media apparatus cover up and bury breaking news stories of Black people being lynched, harassed, murdered, and beaten unjustly without mercy and no one really protests or goes against the system:
    Success! The anti-Black racist status quo remains.

    If they instigate and covertly encourage people to protest and bring in WS operatives and anarchists to cause some chaos (by putting piles of bricks and rocks everywhere, breaking into windows, causing fires, painting "Loot for free stuff" graffiti, etc) despite risks of financial losses due to damages in order to successfully convince politicians and officials to refund and give way more money to the police in order to "have law and order" and "stop and prevent riots and crime" and "provide more police training" then:
    Success! The anti-Black racist status quo remains.

    When they say that cops and police departments need more money for "retraining" or "more training" whenever they murder, persecute, harass, target, or attack a Black person unjustly, the media and cops make you think the "retraining" and "more training" along with "racial sensitivity training" is to prevent cops from unjustly harming Black people in the future. However, that is not the case.

    Here is an idea of how actual police "retraining" looks like:

    Retraining and more training: 'Hello, this is Attorney Jude W. Swartz. He's going to coach everyone and get you prepared for how to act and what to say and not say in court, in public, and in front of the cameras whenever you harm a Black person. And then when we're done we can play with some of those cool military gadgets Biden and the rest of them gave us and f.ck some sh.t up. Yeah!! Maybe we can even use a Obama-lookalike doll as target practice!!! *laughter ensues* I'm sure Obama wouldn't mind as he still loves us!! Oh yeah and allso, tomorrow we will be starting retraining on how to use loopholes to legally kill people, how to maintain public trust with the public and urban communities, and then how deal with, prepare for, and even start riots and confusion in urban areas and settings to maintain our power and quota. Anyone excited?! 😃"

    Racial sensitivity training: "This is how the Negro mind works and how you can manipulate it and outsmart it. 🤫 This here is their culture and history. And this is how they talk, walk, act and this is how their slang is. Study and pay to how they work. Oh wait, silly me, they don't actually work haha. Oh, by the way, does anyone what to share some cool and awesome stories about all the Black criminals you laid hands on? *laughter ensues* Let's have some fun in the room. *inserts another racist joke here*"

    It's all a finesse and a scam. Black people and our bodies are literally being used as fuel for police to so they can kill more and more of us to get more and more money.

    Recap:
    Police murders or harms a Black person. Police do little to no time in prison. The media and PR people for police departments signal to everyone that police need to "rebuild trust" and get "more training." The city pays a few million or less to the victims and their families. Then in return, the politicians give billions to the city and their police department(s) to "retrain" the police. Then they "retrain" thugs in blue on how to harm Black people more effectively and legally to where "plausible deniability" and "reasonable doubt" can be achieved while maintaining public trust and good PR.

    Also, why do you think they built that "Cop City" in Atlanta, Georgia?

    They are just looking for a reason to use this on us and usher in a Fascist Regime of Martial Law and Authoritarianism (or worse, Totalitarianism):


    This is why people are saying defund the police and punish the police.
     

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    The police work for the state and the state is ran and controlled by both democrats and republicans.

    They don't need more money, they need better training. They need to force people that want to become cops to do a minimum of 2 years training. We need to be able to know who these people are before they can wear the badge.
     
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    No, they don't need more money. And "more training" is not a good absolute answer either. You can train people who have a healthy sense of morality and ethics. But evil, racist, and corrupt people cannot be trained to do good or be good, they can only be trained to do more harm. Most of the police force is filled with corrupt, ruthless, incompetent, uncaring, racist, and evil individuals. The only "good cops" are the "cool ones" that are probably laidback and won't rock the boat or "snitch" on their corrupt co-workers.

    They will need to seriously clean house and stop recruiting Klansmen, members of gangs like the Proud Boys, the mentally ill, the lazy, the formerly bullied that just want to get on a power trip, evildoers and corrupt individuals for real change to happen.

    They will also need to punish them and replace them with decent qualified people, but they keep driving the good ones, the whistleblowers, and the reformers away and booting them out of the police force. The police force and its police unions are completely corrupt nearly beyond repair and it needs a hard reset if we're being honest.

    Good cops never stay for the long haul. That's why you often hear people say that there are no good cops. Any good cop who enters the police force will not stay for too long for obvious reasons.

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    The police work for the state and the state is ran and controlled by both democrats and republicans.

    They don't need more money, they need better training. They need to force people that want to become cops to do a minimum of 2 years training. We need to be able to know who these people are before they can wear the badge.
    We don't need them & don't want them! They only come to our communities to kill us! We need to police our own communities, period!
     
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    And any traitors within our community must be dealt with.

    We don't need anymore repeats of Black-looking people beating up, ganging up on, harassing, targeting, and murdering innocent Black people like they did with Tyre Nichols.
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    We don't need them & don't want them! They only come to our communities to kill us! We need to police our own communities, period!
    I agree we need to police our own communities, but i do know somebody will be saying to "Call the police." There is always a Black person amongst us who will try to play somebody as a fool. I try my best to resolve conflicts amicably.
     

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    We don't need them & don't want them! They only come to our communities to kill us! We need to police our own communities, period!
    How would we go about doing this? We would need to segregate our people to our own areas and not let white people around. Most black families live in cities with whites, Asians, etc. so we can't just push these things through and man the streets unless we tell them to gtfo our start our own areas away from all this.

    I been saying since 2015, cities are a problem because they are too reckless, too diverse, and there are just too many damn people in one place. They all have a trickle-down effect that harms black families.
     

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    How would we go about doing this? We would need to segregate our people to our own areas and not let white people around. Most black families live in cities with whites, Asians, etc. so we can't just push these things through and man the streets unless we tell them to gtfo our start our own areas away from all this.

    I been saying since 2015, cities are a problem because they are too reckless, too diverse, and there are just too many damn people in one place. They all have a trickle-down effect that harms black families.
    Segregation is the start. Organization is the second. I grew up in the Black Panther era & Huey was our leader.
    It can be done. We need like minded Black people that are REAL about our freedom from WS!
     

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    Segregation is the start. Organization is the second. I grew up in the Black Panther era & Huey was our leader.
    It can be done. We need like minded Black people that are REAL about our freedom from WS!
    I grew up being told segregation is racist but I think self-segregation and wanting to be around your own people is not racist. I hear mixed takes on it but the fact that a lot of blue hairs and white liberal women are pushing it in schools and what not, I have to question the motive there.
     

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    It's not segregation it's self preservation at this point.
    Black People can't be racist stop believing their hype! We don't have the power to control the 9 areas of life on this planet. Yes we can be prejudice just remember there's a difference between two. ✊🏿💯👍🏿✌🏿
     

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    I grew up being told segregation is racist but I think self-segregation and wanting to be around your own people is not racist. I hear mixed takes on it but the fact that a lot of blue hairs and white liberal women are pushing it in schools and what not, I have to question the motive there.
    They don't want their children to know what their ancestors did to our Ancestors & what they're still doing to us today!
    They're on that total elimination bandwagon. No Blacks, nothing to explain.