New Black Media

Sun Light · 9/28/22

The recent controversy between the New Black Media and Secure the Tribe is exactly what was expected months ago.. In my case from the beginning.. I can equate these two groups to old school hip hop and what's out today calling itself hip hop.. One group consist of intelligent thought and dialog and the other consist of low budget ghetto antics.. One group I can't bare to listen to for more than a few minutes because of the ignorance on display.. The other inspires me and teaches me as well.. Your thoughts??

Sovereign · 9/28/22

Sun Light said:
The recent controversy between the New Black Media and Secure the Tribe is exactly what was expected months ago.. In my case from the beginning.. I can equate these two groups to old school hip hop and what's out today calling itself hip hop.. One group consist of intelligent thought and dialog and the other consist of low budget ghetto antics.. One group I can't bare to listen to for more than a few minutes because of the ignorance on display.. The other inspires me and teaches me as well.. Your thoughts??

Secure the Tribe are a bunch of ghetto morons. They are dysfunctional and trashy and they deserve all the fire and brimstone they get.

Rob-O · 9/28/22

Yo, this guy “The Company” is an Agent! “Agent double O Bussie” 😂😂😂

He’s trying to see if Jay is down for a “Pull Up”

Jay · 9/28/22

Rob-O said:
Yo, this guy “The Company” is an Agent! “Agent double O Bussie” 😂😂😂

He’s trying to see if Jay is down for a “Pull Up”

That nigga wanted me to slide through. Zesty AF.

The Honorable · 9/28/22

Sun Light said:
The recent controversy between the New Black Media and Secure the Tribe is exactly what was expected months ago.. In my case from the beginning.. I can equate these two groups to old school hip hop and what's out today calling itself hip hop.. One group consist of intelligent thought and dialog and the other consist of low budget ghetto antics.. One group I can't bare to listen to for more than a few minutes because of the ignorance on display.. The other inspires me and teaches me as well.. Your thoughts??

Secure the Tribe are a bunch of petulant children who only want clout. I remember a few months ago when they caused an issue with Jason Black over what B1 meant. It's time they get pushed out of the community.

Blackgravity · 9/28/22

When I listened to the playback of Tariqs space, I clearly seen that the STT crew were acting very childish, grown men crying about not getting a shout out from other grown men.
That's h03 s4it, these nixxas never heard the old saying, "too many cheifs, not enough Indians"
They got recognition from one Twitter space, and want to ride that wave until the wheels fall off.

educatedman23 · 9/28/22

Sovereign said:
Secure the Tribe are a bunch of ghetto morons. They are dysfunctional and trashy and they deserve all the fire and brimstone they get.

I tried to listen to them. They do not have substance in their discussions. It is a bunch of superficial stuff.

Harbinger · 9/28/22

Blackgravity said:
When I listened to the playback of Tariqs space, I clearly seen that the STT crew were acting very childish, grown men crying about not getting a shout out from other grown men.
That's h03 s4it, these nixxas never heard the old saying, "too many cheifs, not enough Indians"
They got recognition from one Twitter space, and want to ride that wave until the wheels fall off.

Same issue with 3 minutes of black empowerment. Hes mad because tariq, pbt, and tba didnt taalk about his flyer campaign.

educatedman23 · 9/28/22

Harbinger said:
Same issue with 3 minutes of black empowerment. Hes mad because tariq, pbt, and tba didnt taalk about his flyer campaign.

True

educatedman23 · 9/28/22

The Honorable said:
Secure the Tribe are a bunch of petulant children who only want clout. I remember a few months ago when they caused an issue with Jason Black over what B1 meant. It's time they get pushed out of the community.

They need to be exiled expeditiously. They don't have anything insightful to say. It is just a bunch of gossip over there.

ladytlw67 · 9/29/22

educatedman23 said:
They need to be exiled expeditiously. They don't have anything insightful to say. It is just a bunch of gossip over there.

Facts!!!🎯💯

RCNAL · 9/29/22

I am a softie (I know y'all thinking simp....haha...forget y'all haha). I think almost anyone is redeemable. Secure The Tribe is pushing the same things everyone on here is. So, I want them to continue. In the end it will all work out I think (or hope). If someone was talking about Tariq's children, I can't blame him one iota for being done with a group who didn't check someone saying that. I get it. I'd be the same. That said, having people talking reparations in various cities, even if they are only a few is significant.

The local and major media mentioned them. Yes, it was negative but they MENTIONED them. They are scared. There are handful of people demonstrating in DC every day about anything from fake moon landing to the Area 51 having aliens. No one gives a sh*t. The major media gave a sh*t and the manner in which they reported means they were shook. I want that to continue.

That said, I would say this to Secure The Tribe. Fall back for a second, get together, honestly talk about how things went down, how the conduct was and the aftermath and come out of it with an in house, comprehensive plan for what's next. What to do and more importantly not to do.

I've never heard Tariq complain TBA, PBT, Dr. Boyce and Taurean Reign didn't talk up his crowdfunding for the museum as it was happening prior, real time or immediately after. I never heard TBA complain Tariq didn't support or talk up his putting up billboards.

You know how they got together? Tariq observed the work he was putting in and donated what TBA described as a 'sizeable check' towards one of his projects. Tariq didn't ask for anything, wasn't expecting to be recognized, he didn't say he was donating to anyone. So, when Secure The Tribe says why didn't the new black media big them up, to be fair, when has the big 3 bigged up each other's projects tough? If someone calls in and mentioned it, they'd wish them luck but not arbitrarily. The only time I heard Tariq publicly request anything of TBA was to speak at the march. "...and TBA we could use you brother" or something to that effect. That's it. The Jumper white boy asked Tariq are there any others he should listen to and Tariq mentioned TBA and PBT but if the guy didn't ask that question, he wouldn't have said sh*t about them but its not because he doesn't respect them. He had both of them on the program once.

So, they can't say its off code when the norm is that it's (publicly pushing other projects) not done among them. That's asking for special treatment and being upset not getting it. I truly hope and wish this just becomes a learning experience, that eventually makes the group better and more effective.

Again...an again, the more voices we have talking about reparations, black empowerment the better. The side beefs notwithstanding.

educatedman23 · 9/29/22

ladytlw67 said:
Facts!!!🎯💯

talking about who likes sugar in their grits

Roparker71 · 9/29/22

Sun Light said:
The recent controversy between the New Black Media and Secure the Tribe is exactly what was expected months ago.. In my case from the beginning.. I can equate these two groups to old school hip hop and what's out today calling itself hip hop.. One group consist of intelligent thought and dialog and the other consist of low budget ghetto antics.. One group I can't bare to listen to for more than a few minutes because of the ignorance on display.. The other inspires me and teaches me as well.. Your thoughts??

Personally, I think that "Secure The Tribe" is being misled by terrible role models. That usually happens when people are trying to make a name for themselves and are off code from the beginning.

HeffDawg · 9/29/22

Roparker71 said:
Personally, I think that "Secure The Tribe" is being misled by terrible role models. That usually happens when people are trying to make a name for themselves and are off code from the beginning.

Those suckers are not children they are who they are. It ain't their first rodeo they are jive ass clout chasers who think they got more juice than they really do.

RCNAL · 9/29/22

Yeah, Tariq is done. It will be interesting to see if TBA says anything. My guess, from what I've seen in the past, he'll speak volumes by not speaking at all. This is all going to be a learning experience for those in question. Like him or not, Tariq has a huge following, very, very loyal and vocal.

It will also be interested how Yaa Yaa and others Tariq named responds.

Sad as this all is, its actually normal in movements

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riZ27VLFlcM&t=1835s

HeffDawg · 9/29/22

RCNAL said:
Yeah, Tariq is done. It will be interesting to see if TBA says anything. My guess, from what I've seen in the past, he'll speak volumes by not speaking at all. This is all going to be a learning experience for those in question. Like him or not, Tariq has a huge following, very, very loyal and vocal.

It will also be interested how Yaa Yaa and others Tariq named responds.

Sad as this all is, its actually normal in movements

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riZ27VLFlcM&t=1835s

Tariq should have never went in on Yaya like that. He was petty as hell and he should be a better example.

RCNAL · 9/29/22

My dude, people know Tariq gonna be petty as hell. He says it all the time. Ya Ya knows that. Tariq's record of clowning, roasting is a given. Ya Ya either felt she could hangle it or thought it would never get back.

I'm putting that on her though. Tariq is doing what he always does, she gave him a reason to be petty. Some of it can be cringeworthy (Jason Black as well) but you know that going in.

Let me edit this...add this...I'm NOT saying that no one should criticize Tariq. No one is above being looked at critically. Not at all. But if you do, him clapping back roasting is a possibility so know that going in. That's all I'm saying.

HeffDawg · 9/29/22

RCNAL said:
My dude, people know Tariq gonna be petty as hell. He says it all the time. Ya Ya knows that. Tariq's record of clowning, roasting is a given. Ya Ya either felt she could hangle it or thought it would never get back.

I'm putting that on her though. Tariq is doing what he always does, she gave him a reason to be petty. Some of it can be cringeworthy (Jason Black as well) but you know that going in.

Let me edit this...add this...I'm NOT saying that no one should criticize Tariq. No one is above being looked at critically. Not at all. But if you do, him clapping back roasting is a possibility so know that going in. That's all I'm saying.

At a certain point you should demand more from the elder folk. When he doesn't like someone there is nothing different between him and the average hood rat. He stoops down to their level and that shit ain't G. How you supposed to be a defender of Black people but calling that Black woman out her name like that when all she wanted was a mention? She was salty and he should have handled like a man would and not like a diva.

RCNAL · 9/29/22

HeffDawg said:
At a certain point you should demand more from the elder folk. When he doesn't like someone there is nothing different between him and the average hood rat. He stoops down to their level and that shit ain't G. How you supposed to be a defender of Black people but calling that Black woman out her name like that when all she wanted was a mention? She was salty and he should have handled like a man would and not like a diva.

Completely agree that we should demand from elder folk, anyone. The fact of the matter is his following is so big, people accept it as part of his personality and not enough to cancel him. In a nutshell.

HeffDawg · 9/29/22

RCNAL said:
Completely agree that we should demand from elder folk, anyone. The fact of the matter is his following is so big, people accept it as part of his personality and not enough to cancel him. In a nutshell.

It's because a lot of that nigga's followers are celeb worshippers and they see him in the same light.

JerriBun · 9/29/22

Is anyone else listening to Tariq's space right now...?

RCNAL · 9/29/22

HeffDawg said:
It's because a lot of that nigga's followers are celeb worshippers and they see him in the same light.

You may be 100 percent right maybe, but it is what it is. The facts are if he feels attacked he will get petty and it will be messy. The facts are his people will be posting and commenting and trolling whomever it is.

So, just know that if you critique him. There may be no response all the way up to having a puppet made of you and 100s of thousands of people clowning it. I assumed Ya Ya knew this. She's gotta accept as part of the game as it is right now.

Troy · 9/30/22

JerriBun said:
Is anyone else listening to Tariq's space right now...?

I peeped it for a second what’s going down?

JerriBun · 9/30/22

Troy said:
I peeped it for a second what’s going down?

It got really weird in there. Unnecessarily weird.

View: https://youtu.be/oMl8bBNidWM

It got weird when Dr. Randy Short started speaking. Apparently Tariq cut the first part of what the guy said when he uploaded it to YouTube. In the space last night, it sounded like he said "Elaine Brown was f^*`able" and some other "colorful" things... Welp.

I dunno if anyone else recorded it.

Sun Light · 9/30/22

View: https://youtu.be/oMl8bBNidWM

The caliber of a Secure the Tribe male 47:45 mark

Troy · 9/30/22

Sun Light said:
The caliber of a Secure the Tribe male 47:45 mark

Are they any different than a nigga that makes cartoons about people when he's mad? It's two sides of the same coin. One side is silly and broke and the other is silly and rich.

Sun Light · 9/30/22

Troy said:
Are they any different than a nigga that makes cartoons about people when he's mad? It's two sides of the same coin. One side is silly and broke and the other is silly and rich.

Yes one word balance.. One has educational and intelligent dialog, and the other ??

Troy · 9/30/22

Sun Light said:
Yes one word balance.. One has educational and intelligent dialog, and the other ??

Before I answer I will just say that I don't like Tariq just so you understand my perspective. Tariq only sounds intelligent when he is quoting Neely Fuller or Frances Cress Welsing. When he is speaking from his own perspective he sounds like an idiot. Remember when he said Nipsey seemed like a military hit? He always uses phrases like "people are saying" "I'm hearing" so that he doesn't have to stand on anything he says. Tariq is entertaining and a hustler I'll give him that but not much more. He is no one to be following because he's childish and a diva.

Sun Light · 9/30/22

Troy said:
Before I answer I will just say that I don't like Tariq just so you understand my perspective. Tariq only sounds intelligent when he is quoting Neely Fuller or Frances Cress Welsing. When he is speaking from his own perspective he sounds like an idiot. Remember when he said Nipsey seemed like a military hit? He always uses phrases like "people are saying" "I'm hearing" so that he doesn't have to stand on anything he says. Tariq is entertaining and a hustler I'll give him that but not much more. He is no one to be following because he's childish and a diva.

Understandable

Sun Light · 9/30/22

Troy said:
Before I answer I will just say that I don't like Tariq just so you understand my perspective. Tariq only sounds intelligent when he is quoting Neely Fuller or Frances Cress Welsing. When he is speaking from his own perspective he sounds like an idiot. Remember when he said Nipsey seemed like a military hit? He always uses phrases like "people are saying" "I'm hearing" so that he doesn't have to stand on anything he says. Tariq is entertaining and a hustler I'll give him that but not much more. He is no one to be following because he's childish and a diva.

Sun Light said:
Understandable

My perspective is not from a fans point of view and not specific to Tariq.. Just my unbiased observation..

The Honorable · 9/30/22

JerriBun said:
It got really weird in there. Unnecessarily weird.

View: https://youtu.be/oMl8bBNidWM

It got weird when Dr. Randy Short started speaking. Apparently Tariq cut the first part of what the guy said when he uploaded it to YouTube. In the space last night, it sounded like he said "Elaine Brown was f^*`able" and some other "colorful" things... Welp.

I dunno if anyone else recorded it.

Randy Short saying that is totally believable. He says some very perverted things on Hotep-ish.

JerriBun · 9/30/22

The Honorable said:
Randy Short saying that is totally believable. He says some very perverted things on Hotep-ish.

Ok, thanks for letting me know. It was my first time hearing him talk and I was clutching my pearls. 😖

Jay · 9/30/22

JerriBun said:
Ok, thanks for letting me know. It was my first time hearing him talk and I was clutching my pearls. 😖

Yes that is definitely Randy Short for you. He makes me wince when he talks about those types of topics. I remember one time he went into graphic detail about girls in college and I felt violated.

JerriBun · 9/30/22

Jay said:
Yes that is definitely Randy Short for you. He makes me wince when he talks about those types of topics. I remember one time he went into graphic detail about girls in college and I felt violated.

W o w.

educatedman23 · 9/30/22

Roparker71 said:
Personally, I think that "Secure The Tribe" is being misled by terrible role models. That usually happens when people are trying to make a name for themselves and are off code from the beginning.

They are constantly off code while pretending to be on code.

educatedman23 · 9/30/22

Jay said:
Yes that is definitely Randy Short for you. He makes me wince when he talks about those types of topics. I remember one time he went into graphic detail about girls in college and I felt violated.

I love listening to Randy Short. I think I stumbled upon him last year or the year before last. He definitely keeps it real with no filter.

Jay · 9/30/22

educatedman23 said:
I love listening to Randy Short. I think I stumbled upon him last year or the year before last. He definitely keeps it real with no filter.

He’s great until he talks about sex then it’s creepy

Roparker71 · 9/30/22

educatedman23 said:
They are constantly off code while pretending to be on code.

Exactly

Drakbluud · 9/30/22

The Honorable said:
Secure the Tribe are a bunch of petulant children who only want clout. I remember a few months ago when they caused an issue with Jason Black over what B1 meant. It's time they get pushed out of the community.

Yeah I remember that. It was so sad and pathetic. They were tryna argue the semantics of it, like WTH FOH.

Drakbluud · 9/30/22

I was going to suggest they head over to 6ZEROS.net to settle it. Too bad YaYa or one of them blocked me from their space. Childish. I didn’t even say one word against them.

Drakbluud · 9/30/22

HeffDawg said:
At a certain point you should demand more from the elder folk. When he doesn't like someone there is nothing different between him and the average hood rat. He stoops down to their level and that shit ain't G. How you supposed to be a defender of Black people but calling that Black woman out her name like that when all she wanted was a mention? She was salty and he should have handled like a man would and not like a diva.

Yes. I feel like Tariq should transform himself a little. I love what he does, but the pettiness does make him seem smaller than he should be, if I may be so bold. I realize it’s his persona, but still roasting people based on their looks is tiresome, feels grimy and sort of like a low blow. Mind you, he still gets me laughing. But still…

HeffDawg · 9/30/22

Drakbluud said:
Yes. I feel like Tariq should transform himself a little. I love what he does, but the pettiness does make him seem smaller than he should be, if I may be so bold. I realize it’s his persona, but still roasting people based on their looks is tiresome, feels grimy and sort of like a low blow. Mind you, he still gets me laughing. But still…

He is funny no one can take that from him but he comes away looking immature. The second he gets criticism he results to insults and one day it’ll backfire on him.

Bruh Man · 9/30/22

Drakbluud said:
I was going to suggest they head over to 6ZEROS.net to settle it. Too bad YaYa or one of them blocked me from their space. Childish. I didn’t even say one word against them.

Keep that ghetto shit on twitter.

RCNAL · 9/30/22

There hasn't been a podcast from TBA for a few days, he must be working on something. I hope he doesn't respond, not that he doesn't have a right to defend himself, I'd rather leave this current stuff behind us. Same with Professor Black Truth.

RCNAL · 9/30/22

Tariq still going at it. To be fair, there was zero reason to be talking about Tariq, TBA and PBT with regards to the pull up. They shouldn't have been mentioned if it wasn't positive.
Again, they don't cross promote each other's projects. And to expect that they do for your project that they have no history of doing regularly is immature.
TBA and PBT weren't talking about the crowdfunding the month Tariq was getting money for the museum. Tariq didn't get salty about it. Tariq thought his kids were brought into it and I can definitely agree with the reaction. It's a bit murky if the kids were brought into it but even if they were not, his name was being mentioned negatively when it wasn't necessary. He could be accused of over-reacting, but you know that about him.
If they are still talking about the same things (reparations, immigration, etc), I can look past it. I can understand it if Tariq doesn't. It's personal with him. I'm just a sideline dude.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBTsjMQiOaQ

RCNAL · 9/30/22

The criticisms of Tariq being overly petty and vindictive could be valid depending on your tolerance. The doxxing allegations as well. I can see how some people and a few people on here have voiced their feelings about how he acted. I can definitely understand it.

However, I also heard one of them call in and criticize him for being on Revolt TV and accused Diddy of killing Tupac. The criticism of Tariq (and others) on Revolt TV has no validity in my opinion. He and others were on there to speak to an audience who may not have heard why we need to fight for reparations, reparative justice, all of it. What's wrong with that? You should only speak to people who think like you? That made no sense.

The test will be what kind of Secure The Tribe comes out of all this. The 'big 3' as they are called got a huge following and the people with platforms who rock with them (Dr. Boyce, etc, ) many of those followers are gonna be looking STT sideways. I don't like to see it but maybe....maybe some good can come out of all this. The good meaning they focus on the work, keep others out of their mouths and maybe....maybe...these different voices can get along and co-exist one day.

Troy · 9/30/22

RCNAL said:
Tariq still going at it. To be fair, there was zero reason to be talking about Tariq, TBA and PBT with regards to the pull up. They shouldn't have been mentioned if it wasn't positive.
Again, they don't cross promote each other's projects. And to expect that they do for your project that they have no history of doing regularly is immature.
TBA and PBT weren't talking about the crowdfunding the month Tariq was getting money for the museum. Tariq didn't get salty about it. Tariq thought his kids were brought into it and I can definitely agree with the reaction. It's a bit murky if the kids were brought into it but even if they were not, his name was being mentioned negatively when it wasn't necessary. He could be accused of over-reacting, but you know that about him.
If they are still talking about the same things (reparations, immigration, etc), I can look past it. I can understand it if Tariq doesn't. It's personal with him. I'm just a sideline dude.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBTsjMQiOaQ

He tries to pretend as if he is bigger than the drama and has so much better stuff to do but he stays in the drama non-stop. He is going to harp on this for awhile and pretend to be a victim and move on to selling something else.

Princess El-Bey · 9/30/22

Sovereign said:
Secure the Tribe are a bunch of ghetto morons. They are dysfunctional and trashy and they deserve all the fire and brimstone they get.

All of it!

RCNAL · 10/1/22

Troy said:
He tries to pretend as if he is bigger than the drama and has so much better stuff to do but he stays in the drama non-stop. He is going to harp on this for awhile and pretend to be a victim and move on to selling something else.

lol...I take the good with the bad. I look at a person's overall effect and their contributions in its entirety. I over look the bad if the good is way, way more. I get frustrated at Dr. Umar's ego but the man spits some good ass stuff. Jason Black can be cringeworthy in how he treats people and a couple people I turned them on to said they couldn't get past his attitude, so don't listen to him.

Same with Tariq, whatever issues I have with him, its not enough for me not to f*ck with him. I can't say that for others. I can't blame someone for not messing with him. For me its the work. He does great work in my humble opinion. The 'negatives' aren't a big deal for me, but I have friends for whom it is.

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