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The White Supremacist online have a lot of interesting commentary on this entire situation in Ukraine. This conflict has the potential to get thrown right into the boiling cultural war within the white community in the U.S. The addition of this whole Russia standoff will no doubt, make this boiling pot of internal white discontent, scolding hot. People like Richard Spencer are vocal about their support of Russia and its more conservative and aggressive social ideology. More traditionally liberal white voices are viewing Putin's line in the sand, as an attempt blunt western progressive ideology. There is no doubt Putin and Russia as a whole are extremely suspicious of both "Western" militaries (NATO) and "Western" agendas but America's involvement in this matter has the potential to further confuse the debate with the white community. Europeans going to war with each other......certain things will never change.

For those not familiar with the history of this, throughout the history of Russia, they have suffered mightily due to invasion attempts from the West. From Napoleon and the French to Hitler and the Germans, other White countries invading Russia from the West, has been a constant source of great anxiousness. This continued on through the Cold War, within the Eastern Block countries the Soviets established. Even after the fall of the Berlin Wall, countries like the Ukraine were supposed to be off limits to NATO, so as not to agitate the Russians. Well, the U.S., like with all promises, have begun to ignore that and accept new NATO members in former Eastern Block countries. Russians hand aren't clean as well...as their KGB (Russian CIA) has been causing all kind of internal discord in those same countries. Back in 2015/2016, Russian troops actually invade Crimea, which was an agreed upon save zone. Russian has dreams of becoming a global superpower again and one of their main priorities is to grab back ALL of the Eastern Block countries they once possessed.

Overall, this is just another case of Europeans behaving badly. It may not happen now, but I believe a big front war with Russia is a near certainly in the next 10-20 years or so. Throw in China, Iran and North Korea....and we have the potential for a very global and bloody World War III. This will be a reordering of the deck within White Supremacy. Black Americans need to be ready to take major advantage of this occurrence, to inflict damage critical damage upon White Supremacy when it's in a very weak position.
 

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Russia has been making moves since 2007. Nothing has happened.

What is taking place is a proxy war. This is a small-scale war with minimal if any casualties where Russia will take some land from Ukraine, America will step in to "look like the hero", and it will benefit all nations involved as a distraction and as a means to sell off more military weapons. Think about it. Russia's economy is in the dirt. The US's economy is in the dirt. No one is talking about it. Very interesting distraction...

Beyond that, no one is talking about Tawain being hacked by China or the fact that if something does happen there, China will make a move on Tawain which will be bad for us.

No one wants war. Not a true war. It is bad for business.
 

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    6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

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    The White Supremacist online have a lot of interesting commentary on this entire situation in Ukraine. This conflict has the potential to get thrown right into the boiling cultural war within the white community in the U.S. The addition of this whole Russia standoff will no doubt, make this boiling pot of internal white discontent, scolding hot. People like Richard Spencer are vocal about their support of Russia and its more conservative and aggressive social ideology. More traditionally liberal white voices are viewing Putin's line in the sand, as an attempt blunt western progressive ideology. There is no doubt Putin and Russia as a whole are extremely suspicious of both "Western" militaries (NATO) and "Western" agendas but America's involvement in this matter has the potential to further confuse the debate with the white community. Europeans going to war with each other......certain things will never change.

    For those not familiar with the history of this, throughout the history of Russia, they have suffered mightily due to invasion attempts from the West. From Napoleon and the French to Hitler and the Germans, other White countries invading Russia from the West, has been a constant source of great anxiousness. This continued on through the Cold War, within the Eastern Block countries the Soviets established. Even after the fall of the Berlin Wall, countries like the Ukraine were supposed to be off limits to NATO, so as not to agitate the Russians. Well, the U.S., like with all promises, have begun to ignore that and accept new NATO members in former Eastern Block countries. Russians hand aren't clean as well...as their KGB (Russian CIA) has been causing all kind of internal discord in those same countries. Back in 2015/2016, Russian troops actually invade Crimea, which was an agreed upon save zone. Russian has dreams of becoming a global superpower again and one of their main priorities is to grab back ALL of the Eastern Block countries they once possessed.

    Overall, this is just another case of Europeans behaving badly. It may not happen now, but I believe a big front war with Russia is a near certainly in the next 10-20 years or so. Throw in China, Iran and North Korea....and we have the potential for a very global and bloody World War III. This will be a reordering of the deck within White Supremacy. Black Americans need to be ready to take major advantage of this occurrence, to inflict damage critical damage upon White Supremacy when it's in a very weak position.
    I think it will eventually pop off but I don't know if this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. But right now we're at a precipice where the Global Leader will shift and nations like Russia and China know that the USA is in a weakened state but the gamble is if its weak enough to where a full-scale will BK the nation. I would assume they will wait til a point where the USA is at an economic weak point and then bait it into a war that will bleed itself dry. We need to be careful of this as US citizens because it will be a painful time for us all.

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    Richard Spencer and boys are talking about this issue heavy. I just listened in on their little twitter spaces. There is a lot of fence straddling pertaining to Russia vs U.S. They would love to embarrass the "progressive" American agenda, but on the flip side, they view Russia's culture as "primitive".

    They are playing both sides.
     

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    Richard Spencer and boys are talking about this issue heavy. I just listened in on their little twitter spaces. There is a lot of fence straddling pertaining to Russia vs U.S. They would love to embarrass the "progressive" American agenda, but on the flip side, they view Russia's culture as "primitive".

    They are playing both sides.
    Well are they playing both sides or are they playing the White Supremacy side which has no loyalty to nation? It's like when Connor McGregor fought Mayweather, a lot of Americans were holding up Ireland flags, the whole "Murica" crap went out the window. They are going to hitch their post on whichever side they think is going to fall on the side of White Supremacy.
     

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    White Supremacy plays both sides of every argument, as to always obtain the advantage, no matter who prevails.

    America means nothing to White Supremacists, it just a notion to them. The System of White Supremacy holds their real allegiance when push comes to shove. WS desperately want to be on the winning side. WS's like Richard Spencer sound tortured discussing this issue online. For right now.....they are real delicate with their words....at least the smart ones are. The right wing WS's are all in on Putin, while the Liberal WS's are playing up the "authoritarian Russia Monster" routine that will surely lead into "Putin's and the Russians are coming to take away your Gay Rights and Women's Rights".

    It's interesting to watch these guys ignore the real damage they are doing to the people of Europe. Europeans don't change. SMH
     

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    White Supremacy plays both sides of every argument, as to always obtain the advantage, no matter who prevails.

    America means nothing to White Supremacists, it just a notion to them. The System of White Supremacy holds their real allegiance when push comes to shove. WS desperately want to be on the winning side. WS's like Richard Spencer sound tortured discussing this issue online. For right now.....they are real delicate with their words....at least the smart ones are. The right wing WS's are all in on Putin, while the Liberal WS's are playing up the "authoritarian Russia Monster" routine that will surely lead into "Putin's and the Russians are coming to take away your Gay Rights and Women's Rights".

    It's interesting to watch these guys ignore the real damage they are doing to the people of Europe. Europeans don't change. SMH
    Seen very clearly during WW2 with the USA rescued hundreds of Nazis and gave them jobs and safe haven in the USA. They even let Nazis sit in front of Black American GIs, it's White Supremacy over everything.
     

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    Yeah. They really showed their hands after WWII. They saved all the Nazi Rocket Scientists and created NASA.

    Hell, General Patton lobbied US Command to allow the captured Nazi soldiers to keep their weapons, so they could join forces with the US Troops and counterattack the Russians. This was discussed even before the Germans formally surrendered and the Russians & the U.S. were supposed to be allies.
     

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    Yeah. They really showed their hands after WWII. They saved all the Nazi Rocket Scientists and created NASA.

    Hell, General Patton lobbied US Command to allow the captured Nazi soldiers to keep their weapons, so they could join forces with the US Troops and counterattack the Russians. This was discussed even before the Germans formally surrendered and the Russians & the U.S. were supposed to be allies.
    This is why when I hear people talk about how bad the USSR was I'm like:

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    If you knew what really popped off you'd have to second guess who is really the bad guy. Sometimes you think you Skywalker, come to find out you Vader.
     

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    This is why when I hear people talk about how bad the USSR was I'm like:

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    If you knew what really popped off you'd have to second guess who is really the bad guy. Sometimes you think you Skywalker, come to find out you Vader.
    Exactly. Putin and Russians are wildin for a reason. Not to say the Russians are guilt free, because they aren't but the U.S. is a lying sack of shit. There are no good guys in this situation.

    Black soldiers have no business fighting this European battle. Let them kill each other.
     

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    Exactly. Putin and Russians are wildin for a reason. Not to say the Russians are guilt free, because they aren't but the U.S. is a lying sack of shit. There are no good guys in this situation.

    Black soldiers have no business fighting this European battle. Let them kill each other.
    The US been trying to encircle both Russia and China. There was a big issue with China befause US was in Kyrgyzstan and China was saying that US built that base as a strategic point to attack China.
     

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    More global White on white crime. I can't tell any notable differences that actually matter between Filthy Slavic Ukraine and Russia anymore than Mongoloid China and Korea. They're all the same in my eyes regardless of language and cultural variations. Every year there's a new potential threat of WWIII that never really takes off. Last time it was Iran and North Korea. It's another repetitive, recycled media circus and distraction.
     

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    More global White on white crime. I can't tell any notable differences that actually matter between Filthy Slavic Ukraine and Russia anymore than Mongoloid China and Korea. They're all the same in my eyes regardless of language and cultural variations. Every year there's a new potential threat of WWIII that never really takes off. Last time it was Iran and North Korea. It's another repetitive, recycled media circus and distraction.
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    That was so savage.
    Savagery is what they know best. They brag about savage nasty ass Vikings, Anglo Sax Players, Romans, Unwashed Cannibalizing Neanderthals and their diseased DNA, Greeks, dogs, rape, depravity, degenerate, violence, WWE, total pwnage, 1/4/8/8ch@n, brutal crime disguised as noble acts ordered by God himself that had to be done, White Power, Confederacy, Terrorists and Colonizers such as Christopther Pecorino Romano Columbus crossdressing up as "Dora the Explorer," the Founding Fathers of Modernized Chattel Slavery and Slave Owners. I could never be of the true original subhuman class of this Earth that rule through violence and inhumane control as they promote and encourage others aspire to be like them: By cheating to artificially get to the top like they are without dethroning them.
     

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    Savagery is what they know best. They brag about savage nasty ass Vikings, Anglo Sax Players, Romans, Unwashed Cannibalizing Neanderthals and their diseased DNA, Greeks, dogs, rape, depravity, degenerate, violence, WWE, total pwnage, 1/4/8/8ch@n, brutal crime disguised as noble acts ordered by God himself that had to be done, White Power, Confederacy, Terrorists and Colonizers such as Christopther Pecorino Romano Columbus crossdressing up as "Dora the Explorer," the Founding Fathers of Modernized Chattel Slavery and Slave Owners. I could never be of the true original subhuman class of this Earth that rule through violence and inhumane control as they promote and encourage others aspire to be like them: By cheating to artificially get to the top like they are without dethroning them.
    You don't think there were degenerate societies in all of Africa? I'm not trying to be a White apologist just want to see if you believe that we have the same ability to be as humane and decrepit as the European.
     

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    When Russia finally decides to go ahead and openly invade Ukraine, lookout for war crimes & mass executions. Some will be played up by Western media....others will be legit. Thief, rape and all manner of civilian murder will be unleashed.

    "What about White on White crime" will quickly become a very ringing question to ask.
     

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    When Russia finally decides to go ahead and openly invade Ukraine, lookout for war crimes & mass executions. Some will be played up by Western media....others will be legit. Thief, rape and all manner of civilian murder will be unleashed.

    "What about White on White crime" will quickly become a very ringing question to ask.

    It's going down from what I can tell.
     

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    I saw this coming. After all the lockdowns and the panic of covid, people going into debt, economies being shattered... It was leading to this. Russia's economy is worse than ours. They are desperate.

    I don't know if things will get worse from here but it is not looking good. If the US tries to do anything, they risk mass cyber-attacks that can shut down our banking, internet, or worse our power grids. Biden should not be president right now. He is going to get millions killed. I said that when he won. The man is not right in the head. Even Obama warned people of him. I saw something about Obama's lead doctor from the white house demanding he gets a cognitive check. What a mess. Damn white people and their lust for war and power.
     

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    No Reparation = No Enlistment. No Drafting. Fight YOUR OWN war.
    That sounds good, but the reality is that many Black men and women are being deployed over there at this very moment.
    Many of them will die or be injured in a land that isn't ours.
     

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    That sounds good, but the reality is that many Black men and women are being deployed over there at this very moment.
    Many of them will die or be injured in a land that isn't ours.
    That's true. But what we can do is make it difficult for them recruit, because that's the next logical step. After Iraq and "the war on terror", our military is not currently built to fight big front battles. They will demonize Putin and swarm us with Anti-Russian Propaganda. They come in your cities and neighborhoods, looking to recruit our kids and nephews with "signing bonuses".

    It's my guess the European showdown won't occur within the next five years or so....maybe 10 years. Until them, the media will continue to build the "Russian threat" narrative.
     

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    The network behind this coup had actually started planning for the coup back in 2011. That’s when Eric Schmidt of Google, and Jared Cohen, also now of Google but still continuing though unofficially as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s chief person tasked to plan ‘popular movements’ to overthrow both Yanukovych in Ukraine, and Assad in Syria.

    Then, on 1 March 2013, the implementation of this plan started: the first “tech camp” to train far-right Ukrainians how to organize online the mass-demonstrations against Yanukovych, was held inside the U.S. Embassy in Kiev on that date, which was over nine months before the Maidan demonstrations to overthrow Ukraine’s democratically elected President started, on 20 November 2013.
    But, still, what continues to be effectively prohibited throughout the U.S. and its vassal nations, is public acknowledgment that the U.S. Government perpetrated a coup in Ukraine that overthrew Ukraine’s Government in February 2014 and that replaced it with a nazi anti-Russian regime and thereby started the current ‘Cold War’, which is much hotter than the U.S. side acknowledges, or allows the public to know.
     

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    The White Media will conveniently drop all that down the memory hole and push out the Propaganda.
     

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    You don't think there were degenerate societies in all of Africa? I'm not trying to be a White apologist just want to see if you believe that we have the same ability to be as humane and decrepit as the European.
    Of course there's messed up things in Africa and elsewhere. It's just that the level of depravity and wickedness of the Euro garbage are unmatched. And they have managed to inspire many of the Asians (especially the Chinese), Latinos, and others to be terroristic colonizers just like them.
    I guess we can expect well-funded Ukrainian refugees to begin to flood our cities.
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    DO NOT WANT.
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    I DON'T WANT OUT TAXPAYER MONEY GOING TO THIS GARBAGE.
    WE DON'T NEED MORE ENEMIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

    THEY ALREADY GOT THESE FUCKING WHITE AFGHAN REFUGEES SIPPING MIMOSAS IN US TAXPAYER FUNDED CONDOS.

    AND WE ARE GOT ENOUGH SNOOPING WET WHITES AND RACIST RUDE ASS LATINOS LIVING AMONG US.

    NOW THEY'RE GOING TO DUMP RACIST SCAMMING ASS CRACKER HACKERS AND EUROTRASH UKRAINIAN SLUT BUCKET WHORES ON ONLYFANS IN OUR BLACK CITIES AND TOWNS TO SPREAD DISEASES, TERRORISM, AND RACISM. #EndBlackGenocide #OurBlackTaxDollarsMatter

    SEND THEM TO CHINATOWN OR LITTLE MEXICO OR CRACKER BARREL OR SOMETHING.

    BETTER YET, TELL THEM TO UKRAINIANS TO HOLD THEIR OWN UNWASHED NUTS AND STAY THE FUCK WHERE THEY'RE AT LIKE Y'ALL TOLD THE HAITIANS AFTER THEIR PRESIDENT GOT ASSASSINATED AND THEY WENT INTO CRISIS.

    GTFOHWTBS!
    I saw this coming. After all the lockdowns and the panic of covid, people going into debt, economies being shattered... It was leading to this. Russia's economy is worse than ours. They are desperate.

    I don't know if things will get worse from here but it is not looking good. If the US tries to do anything, they risk mass cyber-attacks that can shut down our banking, internet, or worse our power grids. Biden should not be president right now. He is going to get millions killed. I said that when he won. The man is not right in the head. Even Obama warned people of him. I saw something about Obama's lead doctor from the white house demanding he gets a cognitive check. What a mess. Damn white people and their lust for war and power.
    Global Reset or no?

    That sounds good, but the reality is that many Black men and women are being deployed over there at this very moment.
    Many of them will die or be injured in a land that isn't ours.
    I fucking hope not. We need to resist the devil that is the US and TPTB. The only reason Black people keep signing up to fight wars is not only because we are being forced to do so due to White Supremacy's own anti-Black racist and genodical reasons, but because we continue to be economically deprived via economic terrorism against us. And when that happens, many Black people with lack of viable options get forced and pushed into the military to fight BS wars for a bit of little money and benefits.
    That's true. But what we can do is make it difficult for them recruit, because that's the next logical step. After Iraq and "the war on terror", our military is not currently built to fight big front battles. They will demonize Putin and swarm us with Anti-Russian Propaganda. They come in your cities and neighborhoods, looking to recruit our kids and nephews with "signing bonuses".

    It's my guess the European showdown won't occur within the next five years or so....maybe 10 years. Until them, the media will continue to build the "Russian threat" narrative.
    Lol Anti-Russian Propaganda ain't even new. Especially with the whole "Russian Bot" scare to the point where they even wrongfully classify ADOS / FBA as Trump supporters or "Russian Bots" with no desires, needs or feelings because we Black Human Beings are demanding Reparations Now.

    If they try to invade of neighborhoods with that recruitment and propaganda mes, then we definitely need to spread the word and fight against it.
     

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    This is getting too much to be coincidental during the truckers riot they were taking pictures with neonazis. Now in ukraine america funded neonazis to install there puppet. And now since russia smashed them they are going to claim refugee and come to candada and america. Just what we needed more neonazis. I think they are trying to normalize them and flood america.
     

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    Well you’re right but the neo-nazis are a byproduct not the end goal. The end goal is to have Russia backed into a corner so that it’s easy for the USA to invade. That’s why the USA wants Ukraine to be pro-US/pro-NATO.

    But a byproduct of this fight is a batch of pro Nazis flooding North America to join their Nazi brothers and sisters. Even if not a single Ukrainian comes here we’ll still be flooded with Nazis.
     
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    the new rule should be that whoever is in office that creates international conflict, they go down the voter records and whoever voted for said presidency has to go fight--no matter, sexuality,age,or gender. Then you'll see folks actually being informed about who they vote for. Say what you will about the "is it really's?" but at least every able bodied citizens have to serve in the Israeli military.
     

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    Well you’re right but the neo-nazis are a byproduct not the end goal. The end goal is to have Russia backed into a corner so that it’s easy for the USA to invade. That’s why the USA wants Ukraine to be pro-US/pro-NATO.

    But a byproduct of this fight is a batch of pro Nazis flooding North America to join their Nazi brothers and sisters. Even if not a single Ukrainian comes here we’ll still be flooded with Nazis.
    Do u think is a connection to the nazis who were with the truckers?
     

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    Ukraine is filled with a bunch of Nazis too so we are going to get some real live degenerates coming over here.
    Ironically, the original Nazis (Germans / Hitler) hated Slavs. And those same Slavs are now Nazis. Just like the White Jewish, they proudly became the enemy they hated. Too many of these anti-Black groups hate Black people more than they actually love themselves.
     

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    the new rule should be that whoever is in office that creates international conflict, they go down the voter records and whoever voted for said presidency has to go fight--no matter, sexuality,age,or gender. Then you'll see folks actually being informed about who they vote for. Say what you will about the "is it really's?" but at least every able bodied citizens have to serve in the Israeli military.
    ...or make War a vote and if you vote yes you are automatically signed up for two years of duty.
    Ironically, the original Nazis (Germans / Hitler) hated Slavs. And those same Slavs are now Nazis. Just like the White Jewish, they proudly became the enemy they hated. Too many of these anti-Black groups hate Black people more than they actually love themselves.
    For real. The Nazis had a policy of Lebensraum I don't know the spelling but basically all the slavic lands were theirs the Slavics were to be enslaved.
     

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    Of course there's messed up things in Africa and elsewhere. It's just that the level of depravity and wickedness of the Euro garbage are unmatched. And they have managed to inspire many of the Asians (especially the Chinese), Latinos, and others to be terroristic colonizers just like them.
    Europe has had a trash culture for more that a millennia now. Just a bunch of two-timing tricksters.
     

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    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ktdHlf-Cn4&t=921s


    This was a great edition of the Moment of Truth because Professor Black Truth made it clear why he believes Russia is attacking Ukraine. Now I don't fully agree with his take, I don't think it's much of wanting to recreate the USSR but more of a "let me get some more buffer between Moscow and the US". What do you all think about it? Do you agree with Professor Black Truth?

    Who is Professor Black Truth?
    Professor Black Truth is a stalwart of the New Black Media and has been producing Black Empowerment content for 10+ years. He recently augmented his broadcast frequency with the addition of his Moment of Truth "MoT" broadcast which serves as an early dose of Black Empowerment throughout the week. Professor Black Truth is professorial in his approach so have your note pads ready!
     

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    Feb 25 - White House Asks Congress For $6.4 BILLION For Ukraine Crisis Response
    • Aid to Ukraine could be added to spending package due March 11
    • Funds would cover refugee assistance, food, security