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When I was 13, I was extremely racist

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Being all the way real, this is why I personally am not a big fan of interracial relationships.
In my youth, before my awakening, I was apathetic and leaned toward accepting of it. Older and aware, I am much more against it in part, because of this kind of situation. I know love is love. I believe love is love, but I also think it's important to raise strong, confident and self-loving black boys and girls. That can't happen if one parent is a reflection of the oppressor and the other is the reflection of "one of them". Not to mention if one parent is procreating with the oppressor, what credibility do they have as a black person to educate their child on being unapologetically black when the person they're with isn't even black. Furthermore, the child will almost ALWAYS lean in to the oppressor side. Either because the white parent will ensure it while the black parent allows it or because the white parent has frozen the black parent out of the picture. (The usual situation when the mother is white)

Now we need to understand something here. Kids are smart, and they will almost always go for the path they think will give them least resistance. (Example: Asking dad for a piece of candy before dinner vs. asking mom.) No one would argue that being black in America is the path of least resistance. Anyone who would, clearly knows something maybe the rest of us don't.
The only time I've ever seen or known a half-breed own their blackness for real, is Jesse Williams. (Note: This is despite him cheating on his then wife with a white woman while starring in Detroit: Become Human)
This man has a white woman for a mama and a black daddy. He married a black woman and had 2 black babies and although they recently divorced, he's now dating another black woman. But he's the exception not the rule. There are plenty of other half-breed black people who lean in to their whiteness. Halle Berry for example. She has had 3 husbands. 2 of the three were light skinned (David Justice, now married to a fair skinned Hispanic) and Eric Benét (Now married to an italian-egyptian woman). The last, Olivier Martinez, is a French white dude who she had a kid with before divorcing him. Another example, Evan Ross, son of Diana Ross and the Norwegian guy she was married to. He's married to Ashley Simpson (white girl and sister of Jessica). Tiger Woods (Black father, Thai mother), married a white woman. Divorced after his philandering scandal and now who is he dating? Another white woman.

I say all this to say, as far as interracial relationships go, unless you are vehemently committed to being unapologetically black and raising your child to understand they too, are black, half-breeds should be looked at with a raised brow and a side eye because this is the type of $h17 they stay on. Flat out.
 

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    Being all the way real, this is why I personally am not a big fan of interracial relationships.
    In my youth, before my awakening, I was apathetic and leaned toward accepting of it. Older and aware, I am much more against it in part, because of this kind of situation. I know love is love. I believe love is love, but I also think it's important to raise strong, confident and self-loving black boys and girls. That can't happen if one parent is a reflection of the oppressor and the other is the reflection of "one of them". Not to mention if one parent is procreating with the oppressor, what credibility do they have as a black person to educate their child on being unapologetically black when the person they're with isn't even black. Furthermore, the child will almost ALWAYS lean in to the oppressor side. Either because the white parent will ensure it while the black parent allows it or because the white parent has frozen the black parent out of the picture. (The usual situation when the mother is white)

    Now we need to understand something here. Kids are smart, and they will almost always go for the path they think will give them least resistance. (Example: Asking dad for a piece of candy before dinner vs. asking mom.) No one would argue that being black in America is the path of least resistance. Anyone who would, clearly knows something maybe the rest of us don't.
    The only time I've ever seen or known a half-breed own their blackness for real, is Jesse Williams. (Note: This is despite him cheating on his then wife with a white woman while starring in Detroit: Become Human)
    This man has a white woman for a mama and a black daddy. He married a black woman and had 2 black babies and although they recently divorced, he's now dating another black woman. But he's the exception not the rule. There are plenty of other half-breed black people who lean in to their whiteness. Halle Berry for example. She has had 3 husbands. 2 of the three were light skinned (David Justice, now married to a fair skinned Hispanic) and Eric Benét (Now married to an italian-egyptian woman). The last, Olivier Martinez, is a French white dude who she had a kid with before divorcing him. Another example, Evan Ross, son of Diana Ross and the Norwegian guy she was married to. He's married to Ashley Simpson (white girl and sister of Jessica). Tiger Woods (Black father, Thai mother), married a white woman. Divorced after his philandering scandal and now who is he dating? Another white woman.

    I say all this to say, as far as interracial relationships go, unless you are vehemently committed to being unapologetically black and raising your child to understand they too, are black, half-breeds should be looked at with a raised brow and a side eye because this is the type of $h17 they stay on. Flat out.
    Have you researched the link between these mixed offspring and homosexuality?
     

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    No. What you posted didn't mention homosexuality, it was about a half-breed self hating black kid.
    I think skin colour isn't very important. Culture is significantly more important. This poor kid ended up with psychological problems because of the impact of culture. If he had grown up in a different environment, the outcome would have been different. This is especially true outside of the US.
     
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    I think skin colour isn't very important. Culture is significantly more important. This poor kid ended up with psychological problems because of the impact of culture. If he had grown up in a different environment, the outcome would have been different.
    I couldn't agree with you more. Culture and environment is important. Unfortunately though, If you're half black and half white and you're ONLY ever around your white family as this child was, then skin color plays a part. As this person who wrote about their dive into racism, they hated being black. They used lemon juice to lighten their own skin.

    You mentioned you couldn't get through the whole thing. So perhaps you didn't see those parts. But skin color and loving the skin you're in IS important. Especially for kids like this.
     

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    I couldn't agree with you more. Culture and environment is important. Unfortunately though, If you're half black and half white and you're ONLY ever around your white family as this child was, then skin color plays a part. As this person who wrote about their dive into racism, they hated being black. They used lemon juice to lighten their own skin.

    You mentioned you couldn't get through the whole thing. So perhaps you didn't see those parts. But skin color and loving the skin you're in IS important. Especially for kids like this.
    Yes it is critically important to have self worth. Unfortunately, the culture of the USA constantly interrogates those who are not white.

    We lived in Europe when I was a toddler, and I grew up in an all-white neighbourhood back in the US (except for us, my grandmother, and one other family). Our family had owned those houses since the late 1800s.

    My parents created an environment that helped us to love being Black. We had African grad students as family friends, my grandmother and Aunt supplied plenty of old time stories, along with Black cuisine.

    The cultural environment when growing up, is the most important piece to self love.
     
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    Yes it is critically important to have self worth. Unfortunately, the culture of the USA constantly interrogates those who are not white.

    We lived in Europe when I was a toddler, and I grew up in an all-white neighbourhood back in the US (except for us, my grandmother, and one other family). Our family had owned those houses since the late 1800s.

    My parents created an environment that helped us to love being Black. We had African grad students as family friends, my grandmother and Aunt supplied plenty of old time stories, along with Black cuisine.

    The cultural environment when growing up, is the most important piece to self love.
    So that I understand where you're coming from, you're saying your white family who raised you did so in an environment that made you love being black?
     
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    Ok, that's great on them that they had enough where-with-all to do that. However, I would argue that most people can't embrace something unless they first accept they are that something. For example, your parents could have done all that culture and environment positivity and you could have still hated being in your black skin because you lived in an all white neighborhood and you weren't white. Or here's a more simpler example. I'm an Ohio State Buckeyes fan and we just lost to our rival this past weekend but I can't embrace the reality of the loss until I first accept that we lost.
     

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    So that I understand where you're coming from, you're saying your white family who raised you did so in an environment that made you love being black?
    Nope. My mother and father were both Black. We just ended up living in the historic district of my home town.

    My ancestors, who were the second generation free, bought property in this new town across the border in a free state, during the late 1800s. I grew up in one of those houses, inherited by my mother, and my grandmother inherited the other one.

    The other Black families in my home town lived far North or far East. They were many blocks outside of my nine square block play area.
     

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    Ok, that's great on them that they had enough where-with-all to do that. However, I would argue that most people can't embrace something unless they first accept they are that something. For example, your parents could have done all that culture and environment positivity and you could have still hated being in your black skin because you lived in an all white neighborhood and you weren't white. Or here's a more simpler example. I'm an Ohio State Buckeyes fan and we just lost to our rival this past weekend but I can't embrace the reality of the loss until I first accept that we lost.
    In my elementary school anyone who said anything racist would get an instant punch in the face. After the first year I enjoyed peace. Being a college town almost all of my friends were the children of faculty, so they were progressive types.

    After being chased home from school in the first week, my father told me that if anyone ever chased me home again I would have to deal with him. Then he gave me self defense lessons for the next ten years.

    He had been in WWII, and was the boxing champ of his base. My mother told me that once a bartender said something derogatory and my father pulled him across the bar by his tie. I suppose he lost his fear in war.
     
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    In my elementary school anyone who said anything racist would get an instant punch in the face. After the first year I enjoyed peace. Being a college town almost all of my friends were the children of faculty, so they were progressive types.

    After being chased home from school in the first week, my father told me that if anyone ever chased me home again I would have to deal with him. Then he gave me self defense lessons for the next ten years.

    He had been in WWII, and was the boxing champ of his base. My mother told me that once a bartender said something derogatory and my father pulled him across the bar by his tie. I suppose he lost his fear in war.
    Ok. I see now. That's really remarkable about your family home and your upbringing being a black family in an all white town. Especially back then. Progressive or not racism is everywhere so the fact that you were seemingly not impacted by it all that much indicates you and your family were miraculously the exception and not the rule.

    Be that as it may, I also think that shows how much racism you weren't exposed to unlike the rest of black america. both then and now. But having the full understanding makes more sense to me your position about the validity of skin color.
     

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    Ok. I see now. That's really remarkable about your family home and your upbringing being a black family in an all white town. Especially back then. Progressive or not racism is everywhere so the fact that you were seemingly not impacted by it all that much indicates you and your family were miraculously the exception and not the rule.

    Be that as it may, I also think that shows how much racism you weren't exposed to unlike the rest of black america. both then and now. But having the full understanding makes more sense to me your position about the validity of skin color.
    It was a unique time and place to grow up. I saw the deed to my grandmother's house. Before my grandmother's uncle, there was the guy who built it, then before that it was "indian territory". My ancestors just came there and stayed while the town grew up around them.
     

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    I think skin colour isn't very important. Culture is significantly more important. This poor kid ended up with psychological problems because of the impact of culture. If he had grown up in a different environment, the outcome would have been different. This is especially true outside of the US.
    You may think skin color isn’t important but White people do which is why people with my skin color at the bottom globally.
     

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    usher laugh some crazy people out there

    I have fair skinned family members JUST LIKE THIS and they are STILL like that and is why I dont phuck with any of them. When your high yella cousins side with the white kids in chanting "Light skin is the right skin" that tends to do something to you...well it changed me. But I NEVER spoke down about my dark hue.. Phuck all of them. That's why some of them have to apply sun screen or else they will turn red as lobster and skin will flake JUST LIKE THE PINKERTONS. #HaHa Stupid Ass High Yellows wishing to be white.

    GD I'M BLACK & LOVE IT!!!!
     

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    lol did they say it to you like that for no reason?
    Their reason was I was dark and yes as soon as they linked up with these Pinkertons kids, its like they accepted them being light skinned. Thinking as a stupid Pinkerton child they though my high yella cousins were much closer to being Pink than I would ever be.
    I am at a point in my life where I don't have or need ANY pink friends. I never put myself in a position where they would tell me no. I march to my own drum beat..as a matter of fact I like my War Dancing, it makes the high yella's and the gays in my family very uncomfortable.
     

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    It is sad but you see this a lot from mixed people growing up. They tend to hate half of themselves for whatever reason. I have had mixed friends and they are always the ones who struggle with their own identity growing up and a lot of them get picked on in school, especially mixed girls (they get more attention from boys/men and other girls/women hate it). I am all for people loving whoever but you have to really consider raising a mixed child, where you are living, and what your income level is before you do something like this. Raising a mixed kid in the wrong place can lead to struggle and heartache for them.
     

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    It is sad but you see this a lot from mixed people growing up. They tend to hate half of themselves for whatever reason. I have had mixed friends and they are always the ones who struggle with their own identity growing up and a lot of them get picked on in school, especially mixed girls (they get more attention from boys/men and other girls/women hate it). I am all for people loving whoever but you have to really consider raising a mixed child, where you are living, and what your income level is before you do something like this. Raising a mixed kid in the wrong place can lead to struggle and heartache for them.
    #Jackpot!!!
     

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    Ok, that's great on them that they had enough where-with-all to do that. However, I would argue that most people can't embrace something unless they first accept they are that something. For example, your parents could have done all that culture and environment positivity and you could have still hated being in your black skin because you lived in an all white neighborhood and you weren't white. Or here's a more simpler example. I'm an Ohio State Buckeyes fan and we just lost to our rival this past weekend but I can't embrace the reality of the loss until I first accept that we lost.
    Let's Go BLUE!!!!