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[ZxBro]

 

[The Honorable]

Truly depends on how it is resourced and what powers we are granted to govern ourselves. Without the resources it will turn that entire landmass into a gigantic Jackson, MS.

 

[ZxBro]

Just looking at the map you have trade routes and access to oil reserves as well as precious metals.....don't forget farming many different crops including Marijuana..... I think the exports would be covered I have no doubt we as an ethno state would succeed!

 

[Sovereign]

Just looking at the map you have trade routes and access to oil reserves as well as precious metals.....don't forget farming many different crops including Marijuana..... I think the exports would be covered

But how? Who would drill for the oil and mine the metals? Without the resources and skill set to do so it’s just liquid and rock. Which makes it rife for one of those big corps to come in and give us a small cut for them to come in and mine and take it all like we see in the islands.

 

[Jay]

I’m for it in theory. But I’d rather just see a successful new build community of Black people who are self-sufficient. Control their water, food, power, etc.

 

[ZxBro]

But how? Who would drill for the oil and mine the metals? Without the resources and skill set to do so it’s just liquid and rock. Which makes it rife for one of those big corps to come in and give us a small cut for them to come in and mine and take it all like we see in the islands.

Who built America? I'm not saying immigration would be an issue just saying the state would be run by US for US!

 

[ZxBro]

I’m for it in theory. But I’d rather just see a successful new build community of Black people who are self-sufficient. Control their water, food, power, etc.

That would be a nation of Black People not beholden to any white entity able to do business with ANY country in the world......we're not paying taxes to Uncle Sam we'd have to get it done ourselves using our own ingenuity. White folks or any folks can live and work there but they pay tax to the Black governing body.

 

[ZxBro]

But how? Who would drill for the oil and mine the metals? Without the resources and skill set to do so it’s just liquid and rock. Which makes it rife for one of those big corps to come in and give us a small cut for them to come in and mine and take it all like we see in the islands.

You sound like we don't have any Black engineers out here......🤔So you're saying we need the white man to succeed?

 

[Sovereign]

You sound like we don't have any Black engineers out here......🤔So you're saying we need the white man to succeed?

No we don’t need White men but let’s say the US Government agrees to the plan. You believe that we’ll be able to take over the power, water, road maintenance, construction, etc on day one? I don’t believe so. If there was an instant transfer of power it would have to take place over 10-20 years while the US Government trained us on governance.

 

[ZxBro]

No we don’t need White men but let’s say the US Government agrees to the plan. You believe that we’ll be able to take over the power, water, road maintenance, construction, etc on day one? I don’t believe so. If there was an instant transfer of power it would have to take place over 10-20 years while the US Government trained us on governance.

C'mon Family let's be realistic it wouldn't happen at the snap of a finger there's always a transition period in the meantime people can be trained to do what needs to be done either you're going to support it or not if we're not fighting for this then what are we really here for?
What's the end goal?

 

[Jay]

That would be a nation of Black People not beholden to any white entity able to do business with ANY country in the world......we're not paying taxes to Uncle Sam we'd have to get it done ourselves using our own ingenuity. White folks or any folks can live and work there but they pay tax to the Black governing body.

Of course I’m for that but I’m with The Honorable in that in the release of that territory needs to come resources that help us get up to speed. I would want a 30 year roll out where we take ownership in stages. It would be the way to make it a seamless transition.

The society that the average Black American is used to is highly developed and not easy to maintain. Something as small as breaking the logistical cold chain will leave grocery stores empty.

Or solid fiscal policy, that would fall into our control and we will need a baseline to work off of. But in the end we do need our own nation that we control I don’t know if it will be here or in Africa though.

 

[Sovereign]

C'mon Family let's be realistic it wouldn't happen at the snap of a finger there's always a transition period in the meantime people can be trained to do what needs to be done either you're going to support it or not if we're not fighting for this then what are we really here for?
What's the end goal?

Ok we agree is what I’m hearing.

 

[Kanu]

What would happen with all the white people who refuse to leave their land in that particular area?

 

[josiah starr]

Looking at the map.....I see you let out Florida and I laughed my ass off. Funny.

 

[ZxBro]

What would happen with all the white people who refuse to leave their land in that particular area?

If they don't leave they become citizens and pay taxes to our state.

 

[Nesut]

What would happen with all the white people who refuse to leave their land in that particular area?

Worry about Brazil.

 

[josiah starr]

This entails my vision of our own ethno state. It's a little different from ZxBro, but it's probably the same concept.

 

[Kanu]

Worry about Brazil.

I can't even ask a question?
I worry about my gringo friends.

 

[Red Velvet]

This entails my vision of our own ethno state. It's a little different from ZxBro, but it's probably the same concept.

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I think less than 10% of us have the heart of Nuria and I’m being kind.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

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If you add Virginia to that map, then Black America would damn near be a military superpower.

 

[MR-D-ROB]

What?

 

[MisterAlston]

We would have to have sovereignty and immunity from their government and outsiders as a protected group. Then these states could only involve the most thorough who are about that life. Let's face it a lot of us are terrified of independence.

 

[The Haze Of Our Lives]

It would have to be Boo Koo covert, absolutely no half breeds (sorry but no), structured in cell units like Hezbullah does and ONLY FBA’s.

 

[RCNAL]

First I would love to see sovereign areas around the country similar to native Americans. That said, would Larry Elder and Sheriff Clarke be able to go there and live, etc? What about those with non black spouses? How does crime get addressed as well as extradition both ways? I say all that not to say it won't work but some of the things that would need to be worked out prior I would think.

Also, lets not be naive at all about white supremacy. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a great idea, and it would definitely something I would support as I do other things like reparations, laws specifically combatting anti black crime, etc..

All that being said, there is no way in hell, white supremacy won't target it even if they approve it. Many white people simply can not stand, I mean they find it mentally and physically impossible to live if black folks are living their best lives independent of them. They will do things to sabotage it overly and covertly. That's a given. The same if blacks went back to Africa en masse.

So, I would suggest is keep that in mind and expect it and try and proactively defend against it.

 

[ZxBro]

First I would love to see sovereign areas around the country similar to native Americans. That said, would Larry Elder and Sheriff Clarke be able to go there and live, etc? What about those with non black spouses? How does crime get addressed as well as extradition both ways? I say all that not to say it won't work but some of the things that would need to be worked out prior I would think.

Also, lets not be naive at all about white supremacy. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a great idea, and it would definitely something I would support as I do other things like reparations, laws specifically combatting anti black crime, etc..

All that being said, there is no way in hell, white supremacy won't target it even if they approve it. Many white people simply can not stand, I mean they find it mentally and physically impossible to live if black folks are living their best lives independent of them. They will do things to sabotage it overly and covertly. That's a given. The same if blacks went back to Africa en masse.

So, I would suggest is keep that in mind and expect it and try and proactively defend against it.

As I said before there would be a transitional period where people would be given the option to leave we're new country our rules our way year one you're given the option to leave year two you'll be rounded up and deported. We're open to tourist but you can't live there if you're not FBA we share the wealth of our land with our citizens that means everybody eats we have our own military and we have the means and material to make our own nukes of course we have Allies willing to protect against white aggression most of all our people have the option to live there or not if you prefer to live in the white man's world that would be your choice just know that you would forfeit your Black Homeland citizenship.

 

[Drakbluud]

Yes. But the location sucks. That’s where people already ARE. If you truly want it, go where they are NOT. You need something new, as a fresh start.

 

[Drakbluud]

No we don’t need White men but let’s say the US Government agrees to the plan. You believe that we’ll be able to take over the power, water, road maintenance, construction, etc on day one? I don’t believe so. If there was an instant transfer of power it would have to take place over 10-20 years while the US Government trained us on governance.

Nah dude, I’m calling that BS. No disrespect, but just because you personally don’t know these things, doesn’t mean we all don’t. Read the book Self Reliance (Emerson), it’s simple, but beautifully true.

 

[Drakbluud]

Of course I’m for that but I’m with The Honorable in that in the release of that territory needs to come resources that help us get up to speed. I would want a 30 year roll out where we take ownership in stages. It would be the way to make it a seamless transition.

The society that the average Black American is used to is highly developed and not easy to maintain. Something as small as breaking the logistical cold chain will leave grocery stores empty.

Or solid fiscal policy, that would fall into our control and we will need a baseline to work off of. But in the end we do need our own nation that we control I don’t know if it will be here or in Africa though.

That’s how the latino has been doing it. But should there not be some concern that they will disrupt the process over such a time period? Perhaps a strong emphasis on mitigation of that fact is necessary. I find it difficult (impossible) to believe such a time period would go past without a multitude of interferences.

 

[Drakbluud]

As I said before there would be a transitional period where people would be given the option to leave we're new country our rules our way year one you're given the option to leave year two you'll be rounded up and deported. We're open to tourist but you can't live there if you're not FBA we share the wealth of our land with our citizens that means everybody eats we have our own military and we have the means and material to make our own nukes of course we have Allies willing to protect against white aggression most of all our people have the option to live there or not if you prefer to live in the white man's world that would be your choice just know that you would forfeit your Black Homeland citizenship.

Basically what you’re laying out here is a total pipe dream. There’s literally NO way in heaven or hell, that the US would remotely allow such a thing to occur. A nuclear power within their own borders that’s not under their control, are you insane? Are not seeing what they’ve been doing on the continent of Africa? They won’t even tolerate IRAN obtaining nukes on the opposite side of the globe, smdh wtfh man.

 

[ZxBro]

Basically what you’re laying out here is a total pipe dream. There’s literally NO way in heaven or hell, that the US would remotely allow such a thing to occur. A nuclear power within their own borders that’s not under their control, are you insane? Are not seeing what they’ve been doing on the continent of Africa? They won’t even tolerate IRAN obtaining nukes on the opposite side of the globe, smdh wtfh man.

First off it's not up to them once we have our own no one said any of this would be easy.......you'll either support it or you won't.....Y'all that wish to stay on the plantation are welcome to it!

 

[Kanu]

ZxBro What would be the economic system? Capitalism?

 

[blackice_ATL]

What would happen with all the white people who refuse to leave their land in that particular area?

you asked the real question. A bloody, violent war would be required to take over.

Yes. But the location sucks. That’s where people already ARE. If you truly want it, go where they are NOT. You need something new, as a fresh start.

there is no mass of land with high value that is not occupied. we would have to overtake something for ourselves.


To answer the original question. No, I wouldn't. Because, you'll still be living under the authority of the US government. I want real separation from these demons. And American capitalism doesn't work. It wouldn't be in the best interest of our people.

To see an example of what you're asking for, look at Liberia, a failed American colony.

 

[ZxBro]

ZxBro What would be the economic system? Capitalism?

That question has been answered if you go back and read......

 

[Sovereign]

Nah dude, I’m calling that BS. No disrespect, but just because you personally don’t know these things, doesn’t mean we all don’t. Read the book Self Reliance (Emerson), it’s simple, but beautifully true.

You don’t know what it takes to run a nation that’s why you think it’s turnkey. You need to go to McDonalds university for a year before they let you run a store but you think we will be able run a whole country overnight!? Foolish.

 

[Nesut]

First off it's not up to them once we have our own no one said any of this would be easy.......you'll either support it or you won't.....Y'all that wish to stay on the plantation are welcome to it!

He does make a valid point. If it were to happen it wouldn’t be by treaty.