Anyone that can build a full scale hospital in a week can't be ignored. China is powerful and resilient. But I have seen a lot of pro china on tic toc, their high speed trains make Amtrack look like a janky tyco train set.
Yes man they are a powerhouse with a huge population and a manufacturing capacity that puts the USA to shame. They are also lead the world in solar power and electric power trains for cars. While the USA leads in war, fast food, and degenerate behavior. If they can lead the world in renewable clean energy do we really think they can’t lead in warfare capabilities?Anyone that can build a full scale hospital in a week can't be ignored. China is powerful and resilient. But I have seen a lot of pro china on tic toc, their high speed trains make Amtrack look like a janky tyco train set.
China is an infinitely better position that the US though. They’re moving over to trading in a gold backed currency, creating a new Bloc with all the major commodity producing countries, and are diversifying their trading partners.We're talking navy and cheap steel though.....We're not so much talking economy by the way their economy is just as much in danger as collapsing as ours is on any given day
(that housing bubble they're going through is a real mess) and just to be clear again who controls the shipping lanes when it comes to US products? Answer: not China or Russia. When that happens I'll raise my Chinese Flag. It all boils down to propaganda in the end anyway. The agenda of these nations as well as the US is to put down the other that's understood. I suspect that with the state controlling the out put we only get to see the good and decent stories from China like when people see pictures of DC you only see the presentable parts not the grimy underbelly of the city....don't ever believe the hype.
Again more propaganda but I digress because until I see Wallstreet actually panicking I'll remain unconcerned. My only concern is with raising the Black economy up while the 2 Bully's battle one another. Eventually what we'll end up with is a one world economy as has been the plan all along. By the way how long will infrastructure last if you're using cheap materials to build and maintain it?China is an infinitely better position that the US though. They’re moving over to trading in a gold backed currency, creating a new Bloc with all the major commodity producing countries, and are diversifying their trading partners.
Every country has their issues but China has a cold and the USA has stage 4 cancer. A housing bubble, commercial real estate bubble, stagflation, and losing world reserve currency status, it’s going to get rough.
But the subtext in saying they manufacture cheap things is that they are not at the level of the USA which is hood old fashion American Exceptionalism. My overarching point is that they are a powerful nation that will close the gap because it is existential to their survival. We’ve seen how they were smart enough to outsmart the West and surpass the US in many aspects of society.Making substandard things isn't saying they aren't powerful. I think that is being conflated.
The fact is though they are incredibly corrupt internally. America is the most powerful country in the world and is corrupt.
They went from one of the poorest countries in the 1980s and in the 90s had the biggest economic boom in human history from poor to 2nd biggest economy in roughly 10 years.
Last stats I recall seeing has America 25% of the world's GNP and China 23%.
You can’t say “more propaganda” to discredit what I’m saying. What part of my post was propaganda? Please point it out so that we can discuss. Also Wall Street will not panic in public because panic will make the collapse come sooner. When Wall Street sweats it is already over.Again more propaganda but I digress because until I see Wallstreet actually panicking I'll remain unconcerned. My only concern is with raising the Black economy up while the 2 Bully's battle one another. Eventually what we'll end up with is a one world economy as has been the plan all along. By the way how long will infrastructure last if you're using cheap materials to build and maintain it?
Totally agree with China playing America. Marx said what will end capitalism is its own greed. American companies actually made deals where they couldn't go into China's market with their patents being secret. Also, China funded research departments at MIT, Cal Tech, U of Chicago and private firms. Notice all those schools have some of their research with military applications? And "we" (US govt) let them.But the subtext in saying they manufacture cheap things is that they are not at the level of the USA which is hood old fashion American Exceptionalism. My overarching point is that they are a powerful nation that will close the gap because it is existential to their survival. We’ve seen how they were smart enough to outsmart the West and surpass the US in many aspects of society.
Also mentioning China’s corruptness is really a moot point when the USA is all across the world overthrowing elected governments, start wars, got bases all around Russia and China…there is no level of corrupt greater than the USA right now.
The USA tried to exploit them for cheap labor and China sat there and learned all the tricks of the trade and became a powerhouse. American greed built China and now the USA is going to have to put respect on its name.
To close out, I don’t think that everything China makes is cheap. They produce high quality stuff but there are also things they are constantly improving on and in 5-10 years time it will be top notch.
The USA kept saying “oh China doesn’t have the manufacturing we do they can’t compete” and now we see them with Nukes, Aircraft Carriers, Hypersonic Missiles…the arrogance in the USA will be one of the largest contributors of its downfall.
Propaganda is all through your statement as far as Wallstreet panicking in public look no further than the stock market the ups and downs tell you the story whether you're looking at the US Stock market or the Nikkei market. (Doesn't look like theyre panicking at all) You keep saying China is more this and that without really seeing behind the scenes......they've had building collapses that they don't talk about again we're talking cheap steel which if used with building materials becomes a safety hazard that doesn't bode well for their future infrastructure no matter how fast they can build a hospital......BRICS may or may not catch on because there's only a finite amount of gold at any given time because gold has to be mined so we'll see how many more countries make the jump. The US should definitely do better when it comes to STEM education and infrastructure (one of the reasons we see the influx of illegal immigrants) yes the US has issues but trust China's issues are just beginning.You can’t say “more propaganda” to discredit what I’m saying. What part of my post was propaganda? Please point it out so that we can discuss. Also Wall Street will not panic in public because panic will make the collapse come sooner. When Wall Street sweats it is already over.
They also made rules that if an American company set up shop in China it would have to train the Chinese people on how to build and operate the plant. It was genius and put them in position to duplicate the factories for their own use.Totally agree with China playing America. Marx said what will end capitalism is its own greed. American companies actually made deals where they couldn't go into China's market with their patents being secret. Also, China funded research departments at MIT, Cal Tech, U of Chicago and private firms. Notice all those schools have some of their research with military applications? And "we" (US govt) let them.
China makes great stuff when its needed. They also do shoddy work internally and some of its smaller manufacturers will cut corner on foreign trade.
Once again you won’t address directly what is and isn’t propaganda. BRICS rivaling the USA is not propaganda, Saudi Arabia wanting to move into BRICS and destroy the petrodollar is not propaganda. The globe going multipolar is not propaganda. If the petrodollar goes so does the US’ ability to constantly print trillions of dollars out of thin air.Propaganda is all through your statement as far as Wallstreet panicking in public look no further than the stock market the ups and downs tell you the story whether you're looking at the US Stock market or the Nikkei market. (Doesn't look like theyre panicking at all) You keep saying China is more this and that without really seeing behind the scenes......they've had building collapses that they don't talk about again we're talking cheap steel which if used with building materials becomes a safety hazard that doesn't bode well for their future infrastructure no matter how fast they can build a hospital......BRICS may or may not catch on because there's only a finite amount of gold at any given time because gold has to be mined so we'll see how many more countries make the jump. The US should definitely do better when it comes to STEM education and infrastructure (one of the reasons we see the influx of illegal immigrants) yes the US has issues but trust China's issues are just beginning.
Absolute facts. India and China are in a race to see who is going to take the top seat and they are enemies so it's no telling how it will shake out. Those two economies being united in BRICS could pose serious problems for European dominance in this century. We may see Europeans have to show respect to the Global South for once in the past 1000 years.On a sidenote, the one country I think will emerge as an economic super power is India. It's slowly moved up to 4th biggest economy and will surpass the 3rd biggest, Germany, fairly soon. They are growing much faster than Japan (the 2nd biggest economy) which has been stagnant for years. Indiaa is kinda similar to China 30 years ago. Huge numbers of cheap labor but also significant technical capability.
They may not be the number one economy after the next global crash but they are capable of ending up 2nd and overtaking China or America as crazy as that sounds.
Every nation that has led the world economically has had 2 things happen in its history. An internal war to determine what ideology will lead them and access to slave and/or cheap labor.
Roman Empire, British Empire, USA, China all had both.
First and foremost fuck China, and the fact that you don't think Black People can create or build when we've done fine in the past (remember all the towns that were destroyed by white envy). I won't go into a tangent I'll even concede your points because I'm not that interested in arguing over "what might be" as opposed to what is, my people are here so I'm here to uplift and wave their flag not the flag of some yellow oppressors as for the propaganda most anything that comes out of China is released via State TV so do with that what you will. News whether good or bad is strictly guarded before it gets out to the world same thing goes on here in the US but not to the level of what goes on over there. I have many examples but at the risk of being a US fan boy which I'm not I'll let you continue to cape for China and concede to your point of view. I'm Black First and that's all I'll be concerned with in the future. ✊🏿💯Once again you won’t address directly what is and isn’t propaganda. BRICS rivaling the USA is not propaganda, Saudi Arabia wanting to move into BRICS and destroy the petrodollar is not propaganda. The globe going multipolar is not propaganda. If the petrodollar goes so does the US’ ability to constantly print trillions of dollars out of thin air.
Secondly, there have been building collapses in China and the government actually does speak on them. Not only do they speak on them they arrest the people who violated safety standards.
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Nine arrested in China over building collapse: Police
Suspects include the building’s owner and members of an inspection firm accused of providing a false safety report.www.aljazeera.com
Changsha police said on Sunday that the building’s owner and three others responsible for its design and construction were arrested on suspicion of “major responsibility for an accident”.
Another five people, all members of a private building inspection firm, “provided a false safety report after conducting a building safety audit of the hotel”, the statement on Twitter-like Weibo said.
Meanwhile the Boeing CEO is still out here living his best life while putting people on literally airborne death traps.
China is not perfect and no country is but you can’t down China for the same issues the USA has. Minneapolis had a bridge collapse in 2007 because of bad support plates. Pittsburgh had a bridge collapse last year right before Biden spoke at Carnegie Mellon.
If we start building our own infrastructure as Black Americans it will start off shoddy too. But with continued innovation and improvement it will get better. It’s the same thing we see happening in China. We can count how many buildings that fell but can we count how many didn't?