The Cookout

[Rollie Forbes]

Spoiler

Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Deleted member 191]

Hello everyone. First time poster, here.
I watched this video this afternoon. Found it to be a really good breakdown of the brainwashed blacks and their relationship with white religious precepts. When speaking on this topic, Dr. Umar always makes a point to say he doesn't have a problem with believing; his problem is the fanatics. And he's right on that. The folks who are vehemently dogged about their favorite religious dogmas are most times UNBEARABLE to deal with when it comes to discussing the struggle we still face as black Americans. They are in effect neutralized as contributors to help bring us closer to the justice we've been seeking. Now full disclosure, I don't always watch his videos because, more than not, they seem self aggrandizing and self promoting (specifically speaking about his school and the "beefs" with other personalities) but when he goes into "educator mode", he rarely misses his mark.

 

[Jay]

Hello everyone. First time poster, here.
I watched this video this afternoon. Found it to be a really good breakdown of the brainwashed blacks and their relationship with white religious precepts. When speaking on this topic, Dr. Umar always makes a point to say he doesn't have a problem with believing; his problem is the fanatics. And he's right on that. The folks who are vehemently dogged about their favorite religious dogmas are most times UNBEARABLE to deal with when it comes to discussing the struggle we still face as black Americans. They are in effect neutralized as contributors to help bring us closer to the justice we've been seeking. Now full disclosure, I don't always watch his videos because, more than not, they seem self aggrandizing and self promoting (specifically speaking about his school and the "beefs" with other personalities) but when he goes into "educator mode", he rarely misses his mark.

Great contribution and welcome to the board. You have highlighted the issue that perplexes me the most about Dr. Umar. He is an AMAZING orator, he communicates Black issues better than most and he grips you instantly. But on the flip side there's so much drama, nonsense, chaos, egotistical nonsense that it makes it hard to listen to him regularly. I have to dip in for the good content and dip out real quick.

Me when he's talking about White Supremacy and Black America

Me when he's talking about FDMG, Book Tours, and Dating

To your other point, dogmatic Black people as you have stated are DEAD WEIGHT. When you prioritize a Christian, Republican, Democrat, or any other agenda over a Black Agenda you are worthless to us.

 

[Blackgravity]

Years ago I peeped his get down, I've been around too many street cats (dudes) to know when a hustler is talking. He may have good intentions, and he might be a good dude outside of his Hustle, I just can't let his school fiasco slide. He jacked a whole lot of people out of their money...
He knows his shit when it comes to Black issues and white supremacy.. I give him that.

 

[jasonrest]

i could listen to dude talk for hours
but the school bruh.

 

[Bruh Man]

i could listen to dude talk for hours
but the school bruh.

Tariq gon have the museum up befo the school.

 

[jasonrest]

Tariq gon have the museum up befo the school.

u aint lying. i didnt even think tariq was gonna make it. he must have had some big donors last minute.
i saw umar congratulated tariq but i know he felt exposed.
but its gonna feel a lot worse when it actually opens.

at this point i stay tuned into umar just to see how long this is going to go on.
last i heard, hes just waiting on the hvac and plumbing....


that was 2 years ago.
and this has been going on for more than 10, i believe.

 

[Nesut]

u aint lying. i didnt even think tariq was gonna make it. he must have had some big donors last minute.
i saw umar congratulated tariq but i know he felt exposed.
but its gonna feel a lot worse when it actually opens.

at this point i stay tuned into umar just to see how long this is going to go on.
last i heard, hes just waiting on the hvac and plumbing....


that was 2 years ago.
and this has been going on for more than 10, i believe.

This nigga drop a video of him painting every now and then or cleaning up a room to keep the scam going and shit.

 

[jasonrest]

This negro drop a video of him painting every now and then or cleaning up a room to keep the scam going and ish.

exactly,
and they be coming for his head in those comments.

like i said im tuned in purely for entertainment.
i really want it to be true. but i mean... bruh.
and tariq called this guy out years ago

 

[Deleted member 191]

Great contribution and welcome to the board. You have highlighted the issue that perplexes me the most about Dr. Umar. He is an AMAZING orator, he communicates Black issues better than most and he grips you instantly. But on the flip side there's so much drama, nonsense, chaos, egotistical nonsense that it makes it hard to listen to him regularly. I have to dip in for the good content and dip out real quick.

Me when he's talking about White Supremacy and Black America

Me when he's talking about FDMG, Book Tours, and Dating

To your other point, dogmatic Black people as you have stated are DEAD WEIGHT. When you prioritize a Christian, Republican, Democrat, or any other agenda over a Black Agenda you are worthless to us.

exactly,
and they be coming for his head in those comments.

like i said im tuned in purely for entertainment.
i really want it to be true. but i mean... bruh.
and tariq called this guy out years ago

Oh those comments when Dr. Umar's video is regarding the school are EPIC!! Those people are hilarious!! Recently, he had a title called the first basket for whatever the gym was named so I clicked it out of curiosity because I was like "OMG he hosted a bball game?!?!?"...........Yeeeeeeeeeah nope no ball game it was HIM.... DRIBBLING the ball and then shooting while saying to the camera "The first shots taken in the (i don't know what he named the gym) gymnasium" And I'm like welp, I fell for that click bait.

 

[jasonrest]

Oh those comments when Dr. Umar's video is regarding the school are EPIC!! Those people are hilarious!! Recently, he had a title called the first basket for whatever the gym was named so I clicked it out of curiosity because I was like "OMG he hosted a bball game?!?!?"...........Yeeeeeeeeeah nope no ball game it was HIM.... DRIBBLING the ball and then shooting while saying to the camera "The first shots taken in the (i don't know what he named the gym) gymnasium" And I'm like welp, I fell for that click bait.

bruh,

one time he took the camera all through the school in ig live. and for some reason he stayed in the bathroom.
and there was literally unflushed waste in almost all the toilets. and he just kept showing it.
and people started wilding in the comments.

 

[Deleted member 191]

bruh,

one time he took the camera all through the school in ig live. and for some reason he stayed in the bathroom.
and there was literally unflushed waste in almost all the toilets. and he just kept showing it.
and people started wilding in the comments.

GTFOH.......wow.......

 

[Deleted member 191]

GTFOH.......wow.......

He's nothing if not consistent I suppose.....

 

[Nesut]

bruh,

one time he took the camera all through the school in ig live. and for some reason he stayed in the bathroom.
and there was literally unflushed waste in almost all the toilets. and he just kept showing it.
and people started wilding in the comments.

Remember the toilet that was shattered all over the ground in the stall in the video? They ain’t even have the nerve to clean it up. I looked at the screen with this face.

it’s the church folk supporting him, they look at him just like they look at Pastor Pork Chop.

 

[Goldilocks]

Umar is a scammer who tells BP what they want to hear to fund his gambling problem

 

[jasonrest]

Umar is a scammer who tells BP what they want to hear to fund his gambling problem

i would bet money hes a fiend as well.
i grew up around drugs. i know junkie ticks and mannerisms when i see em.

 

[Tati 304]

When he started talking about cookies all the time I was through. Didn't he marry two women recently? He's a hot damn mess.

 

[Goldilocks]

i would bet money hes a fiend as well.
i grew up around drugs. i know junkie ticks and mannerisms when i see em.

Wouldn’t be surprised! No one hustles harder than a crackhead.

 

[Bruh Man]

Oh those comments when Dr. Umar's video is regarding the school are EPIC!! Those people are hilarious!! Recently, he had a title called the first basket for whatever the gym was named so I clicked it out of curiosity because I was like "OMG he hosted a bball game?!?!?"...........Yeeeeeeeeeah nope no ball game it was HIM.... DRIBBLING the ball and then shooting while saying to the camera "The first shots taken in the (i don't know what he named the gym) gymnasium" And I'm like welp, I fell for that click bait.

I saw that shit and was laughin. I can’t front tho the paint they did in the gym was kinda fly. u ever listen to that nigga lenon honor? I used to like his show but that nigga pause and read superchats too much. take the nigga an hour to get through 30 seconds of footage.

 

[Deleted member 191]

I saw that ish and was laughin. I can’t front tho the paint they did in the gym was kinda fly. u ever listen to that negro lenon honor? I used to like his show but that negro pause and read superchats too much. take the negro an hour to get through 30 seconds of footage.

Never heard of him. I listen to Vicki Dillard on Fly Nubian Queen TV.

 

[Bruh Man]

Never heard of him. I listen to Vicki Dillard on Fly Nubian Queen TV.

Lenon is some dude that made a documentary on umar and has a youtube show talkin bout him.

 

[Deleted member 191]

Lenon is some dude that made a documentary on umar and has a youtube show talkin bout him.

You convinced me!! I'll be watching it shortly lol hahahah

 

[jasonrest]

I saw that ish and was laughin. I can’t front tho the paint they did in the gym was kinda fly. u ever listen to that negro lenon honor? I used to like his show but that negro pause and read superchats too much. take the negro an hour to get through 30 seconds of footage.

i saw one or two of his videos. but it seemed umar was all he could talk about.

 

[StayingHumble]

Hello everyone. First time poster, here.
I watched this video this afternoon. Found it to be a really good breakdown of the brainwashed blacks and their relationship with white religious precepts. When speaking on this topic, Dr. Umar always makes a point to say he doesn't have a problem with believing; his problem is the fanatics. And he's right on that. The folks who are vehemently dogged about their favorite religious dogmas are most times UNBEARABLE to deal with when it comes to discussing the struggle we still face as black Americans. They are in effect neutralized as contributors to help bring us closer to the justice we've been seeking. Now full disclosure, I don't always watch his videos because, more than not, they seem self aggrandizing and self promoting (specifically speaking about his school and the "beefs" with other personalities) but when he goes into "educator mode", he rarely misses his mark.

How do you feel about black conservatives that dont subscribe to republican conservatism but believe in in some principles of social conservatism ?

 

[Rollie Forbes]

I saw that ish and was laughin. I can’t front tho the paint they did in the gym was kinda fly. u ever listen to that negro lenon honor? I used to like his show but that negro pause and read superchats too much. take the negro an hour to get through 30 seconds of footage.

All of that goofy laughing Lenon does gets on my nerves, too.

 

[Jay]

i saw one or two of his videos. but it seemed umar was all he could talk about.

Well he had other videos but none of them got the views the Umar joints did so he pivoted to Umar exclusively.

How do you feel about black conservatives that dont subscribe to republican conservatism but believe in in some principles of social conservatism ?

I feel like you described the average Black American. We are socially conservative but politically more liberal.

All of that goofy laughing Lenon does gets on my nerves, too.

It’s non-stop bruh. It’s a terrible show, laughing and super chats with 30 seconds of Umar video.

 

[Bruh Man]

i saw one or two of his videos. but it seemed umar was all he could talk about.

That nigga be getting hella super chats so he getting to the bag

 

[Deleted member 191]

How do you feel about black conservatives that dont subscribe to republican conservatism but believe in in some principles of social conservatism ?

Depends on which answer you're looking for, the easy one or the more involved one. Because the easy answer, I would argue, and I think @Jay made this point in his recent post, is that the average black person is inherently conservative. We don't want the government in our business. We don't want them infringing on our rights as human beings and we want them to stay the entire FUC|< away from us and our families. We as a people have had ENOUGH of the government dictating our lives. We have a "Don't come for me until I send for you" disposition which is about as conservative as one can imagine; arguably even bordering on libertarianism a bit.

Meanwhile, it gets tricky because of folks like Candace Owens, The Hodge Twins, Sage Steel, Larry Elder etc. sh!+ goes all the way left(the phrase, I mean; not politically left) when they get involved because they claim the moniker of "Black Conservative." In reality, they are bought and paid for coons paraded in front of the cameras for younger and/or middle of the road whites to dispel the existence of the black experience here in America and denigrate our stories (i.e. take a look at Candance Owens regarding George Floyd's murder). This way, when those whites get older or are on the fence politically about something, they can be as dismissive and unbothered of our continued torture and mistreatment in this country just like their parents and grandparents probably are and choose not to vote for the safety of some of their fellow countrymen where applicable. In essence, the above-mentioned 'characters' are tasked with illustrating this picture of the "typical Black Conservative" as having this 'work hard and you'll be rewarded' belief because most whites hold that same belief. And on the surface, I and most black people believe in that too. Put in the work and receive the rewards of your hard work. However, the truth of the matter is we as average Black Americans understand, inner-stand and over-stand that's it's more convoluted than that. This belief only applies when we dribble, throw, pass, shoot, pitch, run and score points of some kind because white folks believe it's all we're good for. Their FUXKING ENTERTAINMENT. Heaven for-fuxking-bid we get a doctorate or a law degree, or run for office so that we can have a voice and seat at the table, or speak openly about racial injustice, or call them out on their racism, or check them on their attempted claims of oppression (enter, white alphabet mafiosos). Because what is ALWAYS their go to in those situations? Well look at (fill in the name of successful athlete or entertainer, or popular "black conservative" who espouses anti-blackness).

Anyway, you wrote a one line question and I fuxked around and wrote a whole @$$ dissertation, so my bad. I hope that answers your question though. Thank you for your time.

 

[Deleted member 191]

Lenon is some dude that made a documentary on umar and has a youtube show talkin bout him.

Great video. Mad crazy super chats I watched some of his other videos and he does seem obsessed with Umar but I get it. That's what keeps the ppl coming back so that's the direction he goes in.

 

[Jay]

Depends on which answer you're looking for, the easy one or the more involved one. Because the easy answer, I would argue, and I think @Jay made this point in his recent post, is that the average black person is inherently conservative. We don't want the government in our business. We don't want them infringing on our rights as human beings and we want them to stay the entire FUC|< away from us and our families. We as a people have had ENOUGH of the government dictating our lives. We have a "Don't come for me until I send for you" disposition which is about as conservative as one can imagine; arguably even bordering on libertarianism a bit.

Meanwhile, it gets tricky because of folks like Candace Owens, The Hodge Twins, Sage Steel, Larry Elder etc. sh!+ goes all the way left(the phrase, I mean; not politically left) when they get involved because they claim the moniker of "Black Conservative." In reality, they are bought and paid for coons paraded in front of the cameras for younger and/or middle of the road whites to dispel the existence of the black experience here in America and denigrate our stories (i.e. take a look at Candance Owens regarding George Floyd's murder). This way, when those whites get older or are on the fence politically about something, they can be as dismissive and unbothered of our continued torture and mistreatment in this country just like their parents and grandparents probably are and choose not to vote for the safety of some of their fellow countrymen where applicable. In essence, the above-mentioned 'characters' are tasked with illustrating this picture of the "typical Black Conservative" as having this 'work hard and you'll be rewarded' belief because most whites hold that same belief. And on the surface, I and most black people believe in that too. Put in the work and receive the rewards of your hard work. However, the truth of the matter is we as average Black Americans understand, inner-stand and over-stand that's it's more convoluted than that. This belief only applies when we dribble, throw, pass, shoot, pitch, run and score points of some kind because white folks believe it's all we're good for. Their FUXKING ENTERTAINMENT. Heaven for-fuxking-bid we get a doctorate or a law degree, or run for office so that we can have a voice and seat at the table, or speak openly about racial injustice, or call them out on their racism, or check them on their attempted claims of oppression (enter, white alphabet mafiosos). Because what is ALWAYS their go to in those situations? Well look at (fill in the name of successful athlete or entertainer, or popular "black conservative" who espouses anti-blackness).

Anyway, you wrote a one line question and I fuxked around and wrote a whole @$$ dissertation, so my bad. I hope that answers your question though. Thank you for your time.

Excellent post

 

[StayingHumble]

Depends on which answer you're looking for, the easy one or the more involved one. Because the easy answer, I would argue, and I think @Jay made this point in his recent post, is that the average black person is inherently conservative. We don't want the government in our business. We don't want them infringing on our rights as human beings and we want them to stay the entire FUC|< away from us and our families. We as a people have had ENOUGH of the government dictating our lives. We have a "Don't come for me until I send for you" disposition which is about as conservative as one can imagine; arguably even bordering on libertarianism a bit.

Meanwhile, it gets tricky because of folks like Candace Owens, The Hodge Twins, Sage Steel, Larry Elder etc. sh!+ goes all the way left(the phrase, I mean; not politically left) when they get involved because they claim the moniker of "Black Conservative." In reality, they are bought and paid for coons paraded in front of the cameras for younger and/or middle of the road whites to dispel the existence of the black experience here in America and denigrate our stories (i.e. take a look at Candance Owens regarding George Floyd's murder). This way, when those whites get older or are on the fence politically about something, they can be as dismissive and unbothered of our continued torture and mistreatment in this country just like their parents and grandparents probably are and choose not to vote for the safety of some of their fellow countrymen where applicable. In essence, the above-mentioned 'characters' are tasked with illustrating this picture of the "typical Black Conservative" as having this 'work hard and you'll be rewarded' belief because most whites hold that same belief. And on the surface, I and most black people believe in that too. Put in the work and receive the rewards of your hard work. However, the truth of the matter is we as average Black Americans understand, inner-stand and over-stand that's it's more convoluted than that. This belief only applies when we dribble, throw, pass, shoot, pitch, run and score points of some kind because white folks believe it's all we're good for. Their FUXKING ENTERTAINMENT. Heaven for-fuxking-bid we get a doctorate or a law degree, or run for office so that we can have a voice and seat at the table, or speak openly about racial injustice, or call them out on their racism, or check them on their attempted claims of oppression (enter, white alphabet mafiosos). Because what is ALWAYS their go to in those situations? Well look at (fill in the name of successful athlete or entertainer, or popular "black conservative" who espouses anti-blackness).

Anyway, you wrote a one line question and I fuxked around and wrote a whole @$$ dissertation, so my bad. I hope that answers your question though. Thank you for your time.

Thanks for the detailed post . Do you know any good books about the plight we face politically ?

 

[Deleted member 191]

I can't think of any literature tbh most of my thoughts come from experiencing and observing some form of racism but what I can do is recommend you look into Dr. Claud Anderson. There's a lot of content out there about him. I do know he's written a ton of books but my consuming of his content comes from his interviews on youtube.

Here's one from last Oct: Dr. Claud Anderson interview Oct 2020

Here's another interview he did last Dec: Dr. Claud Anderson interview Dec 2020

 

[Tati 304]

I can't think of any literature tbh most of my thoughts come from experiencing and observing some form of racism but what I can do is recommend you look into Dr. Claud Anderson. There's a lot of content out there about him. I do know he's written a ton of books but my consuming of his content comes from his interviews on youtube.

Here's one from last Oct: Dr. Claud Anderson interview Oct 2020

Here's another interview he did last Dec: Dr. Claud Anderson interview Dec 2020

Thank you for sharing sis.