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Hood culture in what sense?

Urban culture IS black culture. I mean if we want to nitpick here, "hood" just comes from the word "neighborhood" and having a sense of community, trust, tradition, etc. is attached to that. The word "hood" can be used as a positive or negative.

I think she means thug culture. That was pushed on black families through discrimination, shifting drugs into our neighborhoods, and making sure our school systems are the worst in the country.

This is how I see it anyway.
 

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Hood culture in what sense?

Urban culture IS black culture. I mean if we want to nitpick here, "hood" just comes from the word "neighborhood" and having a sense of community, trust, tradition, etc. is attached to that. The word "hood" can be used as a positive or negative.

I think she means thug culture. That was pushed on black families through discrimination, shifting drugs into our neighborhoods, and making sure our school systems are the worst in the country.

This is how I see it anyway.

That was my assessment as well, which is why I wished she used a different word but I'm sure she realized using "hood" would get her more clicks.
 

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    ... according to this young lady.



    I can't agree with this because hip hop ALONE is good based, and there are so many ways to eat the premise of her argument alive. Just wanted to see what your takes are.

    I agree with her and I wouldn’t associate hood and hip hop because A Tribe Called Quest ain’t hood, Nas ain’t hood, they are products of it but it doesn’t define them and their contribution to the art.

    The problem is a lot of Black Americans associate hood and depravity with Blackness which inspired this article:


    Now it being a corporate creation to me is a stretch. It wasn’t a creation of them, it was a byproduct of the the depravity we were forced into due to white supremacy. But the corporations saw it and packaged it up and sold it for profit.
     

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    That was my assessment as well, which is why I wished she used a different word but I'm sure she realized using "hood" would get her more clicks.
    Absolutely, it is word bait. She is acting no better than the so-called "journalists" that push opinions as fact and cause issues for everyone. They are just looking for money and clicks, they don't care what words mean.
     

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    Absolutely, it is word bait. She is acting no better than the so-called "journalists" that push opinions as fact and cause issues for everyone. They are just looking for money and clicks, they don't care what words mean.
    Is she the problem for using the word or are y’all the problem for fixating on the word so much that you totally overlook the point?
     

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    Is she the problem for using the word or are y’all the problem for fixating on the word so much that you totally overlook the point?
    Word bait is word bait. Even if it is used to push across a good message, it is done with the intent to go viral and there is a lot of self-centernessed in it. Maybe I am looking too deep but I have a hard time these days separating a cause or positive message from people with selfish intentions on social media.
     
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    ... according to this young lady.



    I can't agree with this because hip hop ALONE is good based, and there are so many ways to eat the premise of her argument alive. Just wanted to see what your takes are.

    Is the base message of hip hop still good?
    Hood culture in what sense?

    Urban culture IS black culture. I mean if we want to nitpick here, "hood" just comes from the word "neighborhood" and having a sense of community, trust, tradition, etc. is attached to that. The word "hood" can be used as a positive or negative.

    I think she means thug culture. That was pushed on black families through discrimination, shifting drugs into our neighborhoods, and making sure our school systems are the worst in the country.

    This is how I see it anyway.
    Yes I agree. The term "hood" is a black term
    I agree with her and I wouldn’t associate hood and hip hop because A Tribe Called Quest ain’t hood, Nas ain’t hood, they are products of it but it doesn’t define them and their contribution to the art.

    The problem is a lot of Black Americans associate hood and depravity with Blackness which inspired this article:


    Now it being a corporate creation to me is a stretch. It wasn’t a creation of them, it was a byproduct of the the depravity we were forced into due to white supremacy. But the corporations saw it and packaged it up and sold it for profit.
    Do you think "hood" and "ghetto" have different meanings? How would you describe Nas, is he street, city, or simply a black man? Just asking. I always felt a hood was an area and a ghetto was an living situation the culture that follows. What do you think?
    Is she the problem for using the word or are y’all the problem for fixating on the word so much that you totally overlook the point?
    Why did she use the term "hood"? It's a black term. Whose attention did she want?
    Shes kinda right . I get her premise and understand what shes talking about. That hood stuff was a reaction to being locked out of the system .
    Isn't this part of our culture though? Being locked out of the system leading to "hoods"?
     

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    Shes kinda right . I get her premise and understand what shes talking about. That hood stuff was a reaction to being locked out of the system .
    The negative impact changed the culture in America and you can see the change in this through the music alone and the encouragement of living a "thug life" while promoting women to be objects. They destroyed the family system and sadly, this is the root of a lot of issues in America for black families. We need to empower our own and take back our culture.
     

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    Shes kinda right . I get her premise and understand what shes talking about. That hood stuff was a reaction to being locked out of the system .
    Yes. I don't see why people are intellectualizing the conversation. I'm from the hood and we called it the hood, said "so and so is hood", and so I don't see why there is confusion now. We use that term ourselves.

    Do you think "hood" and "ghetto" have different meanings? How would you describe Nas, is he street, city, or simply a black man? Just asking. I always felt a hood was an area and a ghetto was an living situation the culture that follows. What do you think?
    No, I think they are the same. If you write out a couple sentences you can see that the words are interchangable.

    I'm from the ___________
    I'm straight up ___________
    I was born in the ___________

    But I think you could be born in the hood and influenced by it without succumbing to it. At the end of the day I think both terms reference a geographical area that is deprived of resources, overpoliced, and demonized which sprouted a culture of decadence and degeneracy.

    The negative impact changed the culture in America and you can see the change in this through the music alone and the encouragement of living a "thug life" while promoting women to be objects. They destroyed the family system and sadly, this is the root of a lot of issues in America for black families. We need to empower our own and take back our culture.
    Jews release this music though. If you're talking about anything other than the above the Jews ain't going to promote you.
     
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    Yes. I don't see why people are intellectualizing the conversation. I'm from the hood and we called it the hood, said "so and so is hood", and so I don't see why there is confusion now. We use that term ourselves.


    No, I think they are the same. If you write out a couple sentences you can see that the words are interchangable.

    I'm from the ___________
    I'm straight up ___________
    I was born in the ___________

    But I think you could be born in the hood and influenced by it without succumbing to it. At the end of the day I think both terms reference a geographical area that is deprived of resources, overpoliced, and demonized which sprouted a culture of decadence and degeneracy.


    Jews release this music though. If you're talking about anything other than the above the Jews ain't going to promote you.
    I agree the words are interchangeable. I may be thinking too hard, but I was taught that ghettos were created, like projects. I just was a hood as a black neighborhood, not really a dangerous or deprived place, well maybe a little. But you're right, they are interchangeable. I think ghetto is phasing out like projects did, at least where I'm from.
     
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    The negative impact changed the culture in America and you can see the change in this through the music alone and the encouragement of living a "thug life" while promoting women to be objects. They destroyed the family system and sadly, this is the root of a lot of issues in America for black families. We need to empower our own and take back our culture.
    Has there ever been a group of men that didn't see women as objects? Not whole groups, but segments of all people see women that way.

    I'm wondering how men raised by women, single or not, could produce men who feel this way. 🤔
     

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    I agree the words are interchangeable. I may be thinking too hard, but I was taught that ghettos were created, like projects. I just was a hood as a black neighborhood, not really a dangerous or deprived place, well maybe a little. But you're right, they are interchangeable. I think ghetto is phasing out like projects did, at least where I'm from.
    I get it that why the balance between theoretical and real-world is important. Because theoretically and academically you're spot on but in real world usage there is no distinction.
    Has there ever been a group of men that didn't see women as objects? Not whole groups, but segments of all people see women that way.

    I'm wondering how men raised by women, single or not, could produce men who feel this way. 🤔
    A lot of women even objectify themselves so it's a lot larger than just men. It's likely the overarching culture.
     
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    I get it that why the balance between theoretical and real-world is important. Because theoretically and academically you're spot on but in real world usage there is no distinction.

    A lot of women even objectify themselves so it's a lot larger than just men. It's likely the overarching culture.
    I think individually women may have objectified themselves in the past, but I've never heard of a culture of women who do that until recently.

    Yet still if men didn't respond to it, women wouldn't do it. Women men responded to modesty, that's how women behaved. Women respond to money, so men want to accumulate it, for other reasons too but also for their choice in woman. But men seem to like women who objectify themselves, so I'm not sure if it's really an issue or not.
     

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    Has there ever been a group of men that didn't see women as objects? Not whole groups, but segments of all people see women that way.

    I'm wondering how men raised by women, single or not, could produce men who feel this way. 🤔
    That is a fair point that needs to be addressed. I mean men are visual and are stimulated by a woman's appearance. There is nothing wrong with that but to be viewed as an object (and treated as such) is where things become a problem.

    Women do objectify themselves, especially now thanks to places like Instagram - even before this really - but there are a lot more men out there who do this to women than there are women that do this to themselves, at least not intentionally. Hoodrats and hoes are going to use their bodies and looks to get what they want so they proudly objectify themselves but a lot of women (thanks to these women and the men they attract) get viewed the same because of it. I have seen it myself. Women getting hit on like they are easy, cheap, and loose when the only association for the man hitting on them is that they are darker-skinned. That is a problem that has been seeded in black culture all throughout America.
     
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    That is a fair point that needs to be addressed. I mean men are visual and are stimulated by a woman's appearance. There is nothing wrong with that but to be viewed as an object (and treated as such) is where things become a problem.

    Women do objectify themselves, especially now thanks to places like Instagram - even before this really - but there are a lot more men out there who do this to women than there are women that do this to themselves, at least not intentionally. Hoodrats and hoes are going to use their bodies and looks to get what they want so they proudly objectify themselves but a lot of women (thanks to these women and the men they attract) get viewed the same because of it. I have seen it myself. Women getting hit on like they are easy, cheap, and loose when the only association for the man hitting on them is that they are darker-skinned. That is a problem that has been seeded in black culture all throughout America.
    Yes I agree with you. You're always going to have a group of women who sell themselves, but those women will be 10 to 100 men who visit them in the brothels, now they are websites. Men have made it clear that they publicly enjoy and want this. But women should always be discreet about what we do, from our sex lives to our recipe books. It's just part of being a woman in my opinion. If you are okay being a sex worker, that's fine, and maybe a day laborer will be with you when you retire, and you have to be okay with that. But if you want more than the laborer, you can not behave that way.

    One problem is that women will accept the men that are known to frequent the brothels. We have to set standards are well for ourselves and daughters. But women think that it's okay for men to behave that way, I'm guilty of that myself. Being older, I see things differently now. Men must practice discretion as well, but a lot do not.

    I agree that men are visual, but women are too. Most people want attractive mates and most people want to be attractive. But women do not hold men to attractive standards. We actually value the opposite of what they value in us. We pretend older men are attractive, when they are obviously not as attractive as younger men. We need to support younger men in their endeavors and leave the older men to choose from the older women whose time they wasted. The average 45 year old man should not have access to 20 or even 30 year old women, but for some reason, even though women make their own money now, still hold onto that older man are better scheme. That may have been true at one time, but in my experience, it is actually better to build with a man your own age or even younger to have more in common and frankly, more control over the situation. I think women need an awakening. We can call men leaders all day and talk about how we reasons to what they want, but if women aren't getting anything much out of the situation, none of that matters. We need to reevaluate things, because things are changing and we need to do better as women. These men will have you being a sex kitten until you're 35, then you wake up and they tell you that you're not the woman they really desire. Women need to stop this madness
     

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    Yes I agree with you. You're always going to have a group of women who sell themselves, but those women will be 10 to 100 men who visit them in the brothels, now they are websites. Men have made it clear that they publicly enjoy and want this. But women should always be discreet about what we do, from our sex lives to our recipe books. It's just part of being a woman in my opinion. If you are okay being a sex worker, that's fine, and maybe a day laborer will be with you when you retire, and you have to be okay with that. But if you want more than the laborer, you can not behave that way.

    One problem is that women will accept the men that are known to frequent the brothels. We have to set standards are well for ourselves and daughters. But women think that it's okay for men to behave that way, I'm guilty of that myself. Being older, I see things differently now. Men must practice discretion as well, but a lot do not.

    I agree that men are visual, but women are too. Most people want attractive mates and most people want to be attractive. But women do not hold men to attractive standards. We actually value the opposite of what they value in us. We pretend older men are attractive, when they are obviously not as attractive as younger men. We need to support younger men in their endeavors and leave the older men to choose from the older women whose time they wasted. The average 45 year old man should not have access to 20 or even 30 year old women, but for some reason, even though women make their own money now, still hold onto that older man are better scheme. That may have been true at one time, but in my experience, it is actually better to build with a man your own age or even younger to have more in common and frankly, more control over the situation. I think women need an awakening. We can call men leaders all day and talk about how we reasons to what they want, but if women aren't getting anything much out of the situation, none of that matters. We need to reevaluate things, because things are changing and we need to do better as women. These men will have you being a sex kitten until you're 35, then you wake up and they tell you that you're not the woman they really desire. Women need to stop this madness
    If a woman wants to sell her body, she can you are right and that is her call but acting like you deserve the husband, the kids, and the house while doing it makes no sense. If you act like a hoe, you will end up getting treated like one. I don't hold that against men. That is on the women.

    It is easier to think with your pants than your head when you are younger, especially true for young men. I think both men and women need to mature faster as a whole and decide what they want be it casual sex with no commitment or marriage and kids. A mix of both will never work.

    I see it all the time. Women going for older men. I never understood it. Doesn't help you have women like J.Lo saying men under the age of 33 have no value. Women do hold more power over men, more than they realize and they need to reclaim that in a healthy manner. Don't be easy. Take your time. And only invite men into your bed that value you as a person. Unless you want casual sex and that lifestyle, you do you ya know.
     
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    If a woman wants to sell her body, she can you are right and that is her call but acting like you deserve the husband, the kids, and the house while doing it makes no sense. If you act like a hoe, you will end up getting treated like one. I don't hold that against men. That is on the women.

    It is easier to think with your pants than your head when you are younger, especially true for young men. I think both men and women need to mature faster as a whole and decide what they want be it casual sex with no commitment or marriage and kids. A mix of both will never work.

    I see it all the time. Women going for older men. I never understood it. Doesn't help you have women like J.Lo saying men under the age of 33 have no value. Women do hold more power over men, more than they realize and they need to reclaim that in a healthy manner. Don't be easy. Take your time. And only invite men into your bed that value you as a person. Unless you want casual sex and that lifestyle, you do you ya know.
    I feel that casual sex is for more mature single women. You have to learn have to navigate your culture and men before you can truly understand what you're getting into. You can be casual with one man for 5 years, or 5 men in 1 year. Each have their place. But young women do not know how to handle it the way an older woman can, when they are mature. I don't think casual sex is good for men or women in their formative years, but even less so for younger women.

    I think that's a big part of why men want to get married in their 30s. The causal sex catches up to them. Some begin to want to mold a woman to be their wife so they can get the sex without much work but have loyalty attached to it as well (on the wives part). They start to see that women, younger and older attach responsibility to their age. They can't have the same free sex that younger men can have. Women start expecting older men to pay to play. This is where I think marriage comes up for a lot of them.
     

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    I feel that casual sex is for more mature single women. You have to learn have to navigate your culture and men before you can truly understand what you're getting into. You can be casual with one man for 5 years, or 5 men in 1 year. Each have their place. But young women do not know how to handle it the way an older woman can, when they are mature. I don't think casual sex is good for men or women in their formative years, but even less so for younger women.

    I think that's a big part of why men want to get married in their 30s. The causal sex catches up to them. Some begin to want to mold a woman to be their wife so they can get the sex without much work but have loyalty attached to it as well (on the wives part). They start to see that women, younger and older attach responsibility to their age. They can't have the same free sex that younger men can have. Women start expecting older men to pay to play. This is where I think marriage comes up for a lot of them.
    For sure. I really do feel like for some people, casual commitment is the best road but not for most. Most women and most men need to feel desired and appreciated by one partner. I think you are right that these emotions and feelings don't happen until people hit their 30s which is somewhat of a bad thing for women. Like say a dude has his ish together and is 33 looking to marry. He is going to go for someone who is younger and able to provide children without struggle, he won't date around his age as women's fertility declines after the age of 30.

    I think we all need to refocus values and get the youth thinking more about the future. We have to do this by raising our kids to have a good head on their shoulders.
     
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    I stopped reading at "manufactured by corporate beneficiaries."

    Just babble. And a sign of someone extremely out of touch.
    I know right, lol. I think hood culture is mix prob mostly black but a mix of other cultures. Corporate? They created hood culture???? Maybe profit from it but a lot of entities profit from it. Dude your worst than her for even signal boosting this stupidity. With all do respect.
     

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    I know right, lol. I think hood culture is mix prob mostly black but a mix of other cultures. Corporate? They created hood culture???? Maybe profit from it but a lot of entities profit from it. Dude your worst than her for even signal boosting this stupidity. With all do respect.
    Yeah I thought that was a major stretch. Corporations didn’t start hood culture at all.
     

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    I agree, hood culture in my opinion is not Black culture. Hood culture is just Black ppl involved in street culture. Street culture, prison culture, pimp culture, military culture, religion, are things some Black ppl do or experience, but that isn't what Black people are. Looking through antiquity, Black ppl are the Fathers and Mothers of civilization worldwide. When studying that, it's analogous to saying Black ppl only come from Africa, or are only Hebrews, or began with the Trans Atlantic slave trade. Or the Earth is the only or the central planet in this Universe. Maybe thats just how it is over here for now, but not the over arching theme of our existence or way of life?
     

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    I agree, hood culture in my opinion is not Black culture. Hood culture is just Black ppl involved in street culture. Street culture, prison culture, pimp culture, military culture, religion, are things some Black ppl do or experience, but that isn't what Black people are. Looking through antiquity, Black ppl are the Fathers and Mothers of civilization worldwide. When studying that, it's analogous to saying Black ppl only come from Africa, or are only Hebrews, or began with the Trans Atlantic slave trade. Or the Earth is the only or the central planet in this Universe. Maybe thats just how it is over here for now, but not the over arching theme of our existence or way of life?
    good additiom
     
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    Yea this a good one. To me hood culture is Death Culture. I think if it was invented by us we would capitalise off of it. I dont see how we do. Whoever recieved the chemical recipe for Crack Cocaine probably had a blueprint for the rest of this =uckery. Tesla once said that his inventions came from a voice in his head. I say that to say our oppression was endorsed and powered from a source outside of humanity. Looking at the pyramids of Giza you should know that intellectually we were unmatched.Even to this day.
     

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    Yea this a good one. To me hood culture is Death Culture. I think if it was invented by us we would capitalise off of it. I dont see how we do. Whoever recieved the chemical recipe for Crack Cocaine probably had a blueprint for the rest of this =uckery. Tesla once said that his inventions came from a voice in his head. I say that to say our oppression was endorsed and powered from a source outside of humanity. Looking at the pyramids of Giza you should know that intellectually we were unmatched.Even to this day.
    Read the Destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellor Williams. Shit ain’t supernatural or extraterrestrial we fell off because we was slippin. We had everything and people saw it and came to conquer. No reign lasts forever was Rome toppled by aliens? Nah the Germans got they ass
     

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    Why is spirituality so important to them. Thats not extraterrestrial at all. We pyramid builders. Believe me.There had to be incorporeal influence. Same thing inside of us.What you think make us so special?
    We are not special. We are the global underclass and we have to be realistic as to why. Look at the Moors for example, did extraterrestrials have a hand in their defeat? No. In fighting, lack of unity, lack of an agenda made a way for their enemies to infiltrate and kill them off.

    We must learn from these lessons so that we don’t commit similar mistakes. We are not Star people, we are not special, we are the same organism as other humans.
     
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    We are not special. We are the global underclass and we have to be realistic as to why. Look at the Moors for example, did extraterrestrials have a hand in their defeat? No. In fighting, lack of unity, lack of an agenda made a way for their enemies to infiltrate and kill them off.

    We must learn from these lessons so that we don’t commit similar mistakes. We are not Star people, we are not special, we are the same organism as other humans.
    Yall need to come back to Earth.Yall sound like yall still sleep. If we are the same THEN WHY are we different colors with different hair textures.
     

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    Anything negative and degrading about US is always what the dominant society will tend to focus on, pinpoint, and manipulate enough to where it's so programmed and "officialized," to where WE end up accepting and/or buying as
    " Bible truth."
    While also minimizing any of their negatives. For instance, White people's drug usage dwarf Black Americans but look at how it's framed in the media. We're looked upon as the drug users and White people are looked upon as wholesome and pure.
     

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    Yall need to come back to Earth.Yall sound like yall still sleep. If we are the same THEN WHY are we different colors with different hair textures.

    Sorry, you're incorrect.

    Wahington Post said:
    Africans are more genetically diverse than the inhabitants of the rest of the world combined, according to a sweeping study that carried researchers into remote regions to sample the bloodlines of more than 100 distinct populations.
    • Thin Noses
    • Wide Noses
    • Coarse Hair
    • Straight Hair
    • Tall People
    • Short People
    All of these variations and more are African traits. What I simply refuse to do is to pretend as if we are some divine people that have fell on hard times due to the will of some extraterrestrial being. Because when you begin to believe that your fate is divine, you begin to believe that the solution is going to be divine in origin as well.

    When you see yourself as the same as the European and that we control destiny just as they do, you understand what you must do in order to change your fate. I'm not going to assume your position but to me it sounds as if you are under the impression that at some predefined date some 3rd party is going to right the wrongs and place us back on top.

    We have never seen that happen historically so why should we pretend as if that is going to happen now? People like to retrospectively assign our wins to a divine power but that is disrespectful to those who put in the work. It also sets the false impression that inaction still yields result which is not true.
     
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    Sorry, you're incorrect.


    • Thin Noses
    • Wide Noses
    • Coarse Hair
    • Straight Hair
    • Tall People
    • Short People
    All of these variations and more are African traits. What I simply refuse to do is to pretend as if we are some divine people that have fell on hard times due to the will of some extraterrestrial being. Because when you begin to believe that your fate is divine, you begin to believe that the solution is going to be divine in origin as well.

    When you see yourself as the same as the European and that we control destiny just as they do, you understand what you must do in order to change your fate. I'm not going to assume your position but to me it sounds as if you are under the impression that at some predefined date some 3rd party is going to right the wrongs and place us back on top.

    We have never seen that happen historically so why should we pretend as if that is going to happen now? People like to retrospectively assign our wins to a divine power but that is disrespectful to those who put in the work. It also sets the false impression that inaction still yields result which is not true.
    The WS think that they are superior.Why can't I think and Know I am?
     

    Lamont

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    The WS think that they are superior.Why can't I think and Know I am?
    You were mentioning that our fate was at the hands of something supernatural and that is what I was responding to. We are people just like everyone else we bleed just like everyone else and our Empire rose and fell like everyone else's.