I've had discussions with not just my church going, saved family members but other black 'saved folk' about white evangelicals. I've told them I don't consider them Christians and I don't believe they will go to what you regard as heaven. The first thing they hit me with is 'if you pronounce his name as your Lord and savior you are saved and a Christian'. They also come with the '...only God knows someone's heart' drag as well.
Now my turn:
I ask them 'Are the Pharisees that Jesus spoke out against going to heaven?' and there was some 'hmmm...er...ah...' and the verdict was divided. I said 'They followed the law to the letter but Jesus was cussing them out so they going to join him in heaven?'
Also Revelations talks of folks in the church who won't get brought up at rapture time.
So we can now establish there are some church folks who aren't going. Okay, so now address white evangelicals specifically. The bible says you will know a Christian by their works. Okay, lets look at their works.
Today's evangelicals were all the prior white baptists, etc from the south and midwest. They are the same people who were all part of slave states, owned slaves, changed scripture to justify it (the bible says any who have changed these words are damned). And those from states who lynched blacks regularly (Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc in the midwest).
Let's look at their history. These so called Christians have been on the wrong side of every just event in U.S. history.
1. They were for slavery.
2. They were for the Confederacy.
3. They were for Jim Crow.
4. They were against the women's right to vote in 1919
5. They were against the Civil Rights movement.
6. They were against women equality in the '70s.
Those 6 covers 400 years of unbiblical support, non Christian, anti Christ-esque behavior. And they are saved? They are going to heaven along with blacks? WTF?
So, if any Black Christian still says they are still saved. Then the bar is low AF. Basically then as Christians, the Civil Rights marchers using the same standard could have brought guns and shot them all up and still be saved.
If saved Blacks are saying that the 400 years and present dat acts of white Christian folks still gets them into heaven, then why aren't they doing the same? Answer given: It's wrong. RCNAL: It's not wrong enough to keep you out of heaven though by your standards.
And lastly if you as a black preacher accepts white evangelicals as your brothers and sisters in Christ and they are today supporting Trump, supporting any cop that murders blacks, and that is okay, then you can bounce and keep it moving on trying to convince me to come back to the church.
So, RCNAL they asked, what are they then?
Answer: They are white supremacists who use religion as a cover. No more, no less. White supremacists uses or corrupts religion, ideology, whatever it can for its own power.
I know an alt right coworker and I told him this is how blacks should solve sh*t, instead of asking what would Jesus do, ask yourself what would a white evangelical do and I guarantee you sh*t will get real very, very quick. Because they getting wins and the black Christian way ain't working so why don't we adopt y'alls methods since its winning. He kept quiet after that.
PS:
This is not a thread about the legitimacy of Christianity. Believe what you believe. This thread is about 'saved', Christian Black folks considering people who haven't demonstrated they are Christians to be their brothers and sisters in Christ.
Now my turn:
I ask them 'Are the Pharisees that Jesus spoke out against going to heaven?' and there was some 'hmmm...er...ah...' and the verdict was divided. I said 'They followed the law to the letter but Jesus was cussing them out so they going to join him in heaven?'
Also Revelations talks of folks in the church who won't get brought up at rapture time.
So we can now establish there are some church folks who aren't going. Okay, so now address white evangelicals specifically. The bible says you will know a Christian by their works. Okay, lets look at their works.
Today's evangelicals were all the prior white baptists, etc from the south and midwest. They are the same people who were all part of slave states, owned slaves, changed scripture to justify it (the bible says any who have changed these words are damned). And those from states who lynched blacks regularly (Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc in the midwest).
Let's look at their history. These so called Christians have been on the wrong side of every just event in U.S. history.
1. They were for slavery.
2. They were for the Confederacy.
3. They were for Jim Crow.
4. They were against the women's right to vote in 1919
5. They were against the Civil Rights movement.
6. They were against women equality in the '70s.
Those 6 covers 400 years of unbiblical support, non Christian, anti Christ-esque behavior. And they are saved? They are going to heaven along with blacks? WTF?
So, if any Black Christian still says they are still saved. Then the bar is low AF. Basically then as Christians, the Civil Rights marchers using the same standard could have brought guns and shot them all up and still be saved.
If saved Blacks are saying that the 400 years and present dat acts of white Christian folks still gets them into heaven, then why aren't they doing the same? Answer given: It's wrong. RCNAL: It's not wrong enough to keep you out of heaven though by your standards.
And lastly if you as a black preacher accepts white evangelicals as your brothers and sisters in Christ and they are today supporting Trump, supporting any cop that murders blacks, and that is okay, then you can bounce and keep it moving on trying to convince me to come back to the church.
So, RCNAL they asked, what are they then?
Answer: They are white supremacists who use religion as a cover. No more, no less. White supremacists uses or corrupts religion, ideology, whatever it can for its own power.
I know an alt right coworker and I told him this is how blacks should solve sh*t, instead of asking what would Jesus do, ask yourself what would a white evangelical do and I guarantee you sh*t will get real very, very quick. Because they getting wins and the black Christian way ain't working so why don't we adopt y'alls methods since its winning. He kept quiet after that.
PS:
This is not a thread about the legitimacy of Christianity. Believe what you believe. This thread is about 'saved', Christian Black folks considering people who haven't demonstrated they are Christians to be their brothers and sisters in Christ.
