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Trans swimmer Lia Thomas, 22, blows away competition

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    Lia Thomas has become the first transgender athlete to win a National Collegiate Athletic Association swimming championship - with her controversial victory attracting a mixed reception.

    The UPenn swimmer, 22, won the 500 yard freestyle in Atlanta in a time of 4 minutes, 33.24 seconds on Thursday evening.

    Afterwards, the crowd were notably more enthusiastic when cheering for the woman who'd come second place - Emma Weyant, of the University of Virginia. She swam 4:34.99.

    While Thomas was given some cheers, boos could also be heard ringing out throughout the spectator stands, as she continues to face allegations that going through male puberty has given her an unfair advantage over her rivals.

    'I try to ignore it as much as I can, I try to focus on my swimming what I need to do to get ready for my races and I just try to block out everything else,' said Thomas after the race, when asked by ESPN about the response.

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    • Thomas, 22, became on Thursday night the first transgender athlete to be crowned National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) champion
    • The transgender swimmer won her 500 yard freestyle, representing the University of Pennsylvania, in 4 minutes 33:24 seconds
    • Her victory was greeted with a notable lack of cheers in the stands, amid the controversy: she competed in men's competition until 2019
    • On the podium, Thomas was given the medal amid boos and some cheers: by contrast, the second placed competitor was given a huge cheer at her crowning
    • Thomas told ESPN after the race that she tried to drown out the controversy and focus on her swimming
     

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    Lia Thomas has become the first transgender athlete to win a National Collegiate Athletic Association swimming championship - with her controversial victory attracting a mixed reception.

    The UPenn swimmer, 22, won the 500 yard freestyle in Atlanta in a time of 4 minutes, 33.24 seconds on Thursday evening.

    Afterwards, the crowd were notably more enthusiastic when cheering for the woman who'd come second place - Emma Weyant, of the University of Virginia. She swam 4:34.99.

    While Thomas was given some cheers, boos could also be heard ringing out throughout the spectator stands, as she continues to face allegations that going through male puberty has given her an unfair advantage over her rivals.

    'I try to ignore it as much as I can, I try to focus on my swimming what I need to do to get ready for my races and I just try to block out everything else,' said Thomas after the race, when asked by ESPN about the response.

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    • Thomas, 22, became on Thursday night the first transgender athlete to be crowned National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) champion
    • The transgender swimmer won her 500 yard freestyle, representing the University of Pennsylvania, in 4 minutes 33:24 seconds
    • Her victory was greeted with a notable lack of cheers in the stands, amid the controversy: she competed in men's competition until 2019
    • On the podium, Thomas was given the medal amid boos and some cheers: by contrast, the second placed competitor was given a huge cheer at her crowning
    • Thomas told ESPN after the race that she tried to drown out the controversy and focus on her swimming


    I with the Conservatives on this one. Hopefully there are more state bans coming. Women’s groups tend to be silent on this one because it is an agenda that many of them have endorsed & now that it is “coming back to bite them in the Ass”, it seems that they just don’t want to abandon ship. A similar occurrence happened at Essence Magazine about a year ago. There was some pushback by Black women at Essence but the Transformers intimidated, or either literally shouted them down.
     

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    I with the Conservatives on this one. Hopefully there are more state bans coming. Women’s groups tend to be silent on this one because it is an agenda that many of them have endorsed & now that it is “coming back to bite them in the Ass”, it seems that they just don’t want to abandon ship. A similar occurrence happened at Essence Magazine about a year ago. There was some pushback by Black women at Essence but the Transformers intimidated, or either literally shouted them down.
    It’s similar to what happened to us as Black Americans. We thought we were being good allies in caping for others and all we were doing was advocating for our destruction. When you think about the fact that a high school boys basketball team can give a WNBA team a run for their money, while an NCAA team will outright destroy them, women are basically pushing for their erasure.

    Full grown males putting on wigs and competing with women will make success in competition nearly impossible for them.
     

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    What we will end up seeing is a widescale revolt if the transsexual community does not get some common sense.

    • Female divisions should be restricted to biological females.
    • Male divisions should be open to whoever can compete.
    • There should be an “open” division where anyone and everyone can join.

    This will ensure that biological males cannot compete against unconsenting biological females. It also gives FTM trans athletes a lane to compete against males and MTF the ability to compete in an “open” category.

    We cannot pretend as if MTF does not have advantages even if it hurts transathlete’s feelings.
     

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    But what does that mean if you’re training to compete against Terry Crews with a wig on? Ain’t enough training in the world to overcome that.
    I think the subtext is that he is going to be on the sidelines ready to beat Terry Crews up if he playing too rough.
     

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    It’s similar to what happened to us as Black Americans. We thought we were being good allies in caping for others and all we were doing was advocating for our destruction. When you think about the fact that a high school boys basketball team can give a WNBA team a run for their money, while an NCAA team will outright destroy them, women are basically pushing for their erasure.

    Full grown males putting on wigs and competing with women will make success in competition nearly impossible for them.

    Yes, and because so many of the female athletes have bought into the feminist trope “I can do anything a man can do, if not even better”, in their astonishment they will not admit that it is a lie & that men and women are different biologically, physically & mentally. They would rather embrace the trope and continue a lifelong pursuit of this foolish competition.
     

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    Women co-signed & "yassss queen"ed this foolishness, let the women deal with it.
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    Someone I know said "You know what, they are allowing it. Let them deal with it. If they were upset enough, they would all refuse to compete."
     

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    What we will end up seeing is a widescale revolt if the transsexual community does not get some common sense.

    • Female divisions should be restricted to biological females.
    • Male divisions should be open to whoever can compete.
    • There should be an “open” division where anyone and everyone can join.

    This will ensure that biological males cannot compete against unconsenting biological females. It also gives FTM trans athletes a lane to compete against males and MTF the ability to compete in an “open” category.

    We cannot pretend as if MTF does not have advantages even if it hurts transathlete’s feelings.

    Well I wish the revolt would start.
     
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    Trans-people need to compete in their own athletic categories. Point blank period.

    Women co-signed & "yassss queen"ed this foolishness, let the women deal with it.
    Though I don't disagree with you, I think this is more of a white women issue tbh. Black Women are ALWAYS dealing with bullshit athletically because white women can't compete with us and they are forever trying to sabotage us. Now white women are being sabotaged once again by their white men. So to your point, yeah you're right, but more to the point, this is a white women issue in particular IMO. Black folks should just sit back and get the popcorn ready with this.
     

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    What we will end up seeing is a widescale revolt if the transsexual community does not get some common sense.

    • Female divisions should be restricted to biological females.
    • Male divisions should be open to whoever can compete.
    • There should be an “open” division where anyone and everyone can join.

    This will ensure that biological males cannot compete against unconsenting biological females. It also gives FTM trans athletes a lane to compete against males and MTF the ability to compete in an “open” category.

    We cannot pretend as if MTF does not have advantages even if it hurts transathlete’s feelings.
    So basically a "female division" and an "open division" (because the male division is also open)?

    I think they are good proposals. Since the transsexual community is likely not in control of division creation, I'm not sure if it is them that need to develop "common sense". The cis gender community was probably not going to change things just off the ask of the transsexual community so we are probably looking at the only way proposals like yours would be considered.

    As you say, there will be a widespread (cis gender led) revolt. In reality, they will be revolting against the cis gender "establishment" (as Trans people didn't create the divisions so they didn't create the problem) but it will likely be misdirected at them at 1st and then it will all work out in the end.
     

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    So basically a "female division" and an "open division" (because the male division is also open)?

    I think they are good proposals. Since the transsexual community is likely not in control of division creation, I'm not sure if it is them that need to develop "common sense". The cis gender community was probably not going to change things just off the ask of the transsexual community so we are probably looking at the only way proposals like yours would be considered.

    As you say, there will be a widespread (cis gender led) revolt. In reality, they will be revolting against the cis gender "establishment" (as Trans people didn't create the divisions so they didn't create the problem) but it will likely be misdirected at them at 1st and then it will all work out in the end.
    The "common sense" statement is relevant because a common sense approach would be to advocate for a separate division for MTF's to compete not to bogart themselves into Female divisons and dominate off their natural advantages.

    The Male division would be for Males but if a biological Female was able to compete, they wouldn't be barred. The Open division would be for anyone and everyone.

    Lastly, the revolt would be against Males dressing up as Women and competing against Females.
     

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    The "common sense" statement is relevant because a common sense approach would be to advocate for a separate division for MTF's to compete not to bogart themselves into Female divisons and dominate off their natural advantages.
    Why do you think them (subordinate group) advocating for a separate division would work when the majority (dominant group) could just ignore them?
    The Male division would be for Males but if a biological Female was able to compete, they wouldn't be barred. The Open division would be for anyone and everyone.
    Who is barred from the male division?
    Lastly, the revolt would be against Males dressing up as Women and competing against Females.
    On the surface.

    Males playing dress-up is just an idea that you have about transsexuals. The reality is transsexuality is a real thing that exists in the world. You can't stop people from wanting to compete and we didn't have the entirety mankind figured out when the divisions were created. We can and often do revolt against new information, but we just limit ourselves. We created the divisions so we have the power to adapt them to us rather than restrain what we learn about ourselves to them.

    I have no doubt people would revolt against "males dressing up" but the result will eventually be a restructuring of the established order. After which, males are still going to "dress-up" and some will compete against females.
     

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    Why do you think them (subordinate group) advocating for a separate division would work when the majority (dominant group) could just ignore them?
    Are they being ignored now? No, they are being allowed to compete against women. So is it possible that they could have been ignored? Yes. But the dominant group is also a part of LGBT so they weren't just pushed to the side like this nation does with Black Americans.
    Who is barred from the male division?
    No one. Males are the most dominant sex so their division does not need to be protected.
    On the surface.

    Males playing dress-up is just an idea that you have about transsexuals. The reality is transsexuality is a real thing that exists in the world. You can't stop people from wanting to compete and we didn't have the entirety mankind figured out when the divisions were created. We can and often do revolt against new information, but we just limit ourselves. We created the divisions so we have the power to adapt them to us rather than restrain what we learn about ourselves to them.

    I have no doubt people would revolt against "males dressing up" but the result will eventually be a restructuring of the established order. After which, males are still going to "dress-up" and some will compete against females.
    I never said that transsexuality was fake, you're arguing against a straw man. What I'm saying is that MtF transsexuals have a natural advantage against biological females so at best case it's like biological females are having to compete with someone taking performance enhancing drugs. So it's best to put MtF transsexuals in their own division so that we can ensure fairness in competition.

    Lastly, the comment about "Men with a wig" is about the abuse that can take place when you allow MtF transsexuals to compete against biological females. If we are to accept that a man is a woman when he decides regardless of how long he has been on hormones or if he has had top/bottom surgery then it opens the door for "men with wigs" to compete against women. So you have an average or even subpar male talent dominating female sports all because of "inclusion".
     

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    This is such an easy fix the trans person should be required to live 5 years as that gender before competing. If the transition happens before puberty there is no problem. But if after they need to take it on a case by case basis.
    The problem is that "case by case" basis opens this up to subjectivity which should not be a factor in competition. MtF simply shouldn't be allowed to compete against biological females in order to protect female competition. Having a separate category for transsexuals IMO would make it fair and safe for everyone across the board.
     

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    Cheating, bending the rules, fixing the outcome is all white male culture. It's all they know, it's how they are able to exist.
    If white people had to play by the same rules as everyone else (in life) they would be a permanent under class. Gurenteed.
     

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    But what does that mean if you’re training to compete against Terry Crews with a wig on? Ain’t enough training in the world to overcome that.
    Take it a step further. What if his daughters had a legit shot at a full ride athletic scholarship, but the competition is Bobby Lashley with a bayang?
    Something similar happened in Connecticut a few years back.
    Two biological males didn't make the boy's track team, but they decided to identify as females, and they smoked all of the girls that they ran against.
    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sHqiG_hrbsc&t=170s

    How would you feel as a girl dad if you invested all of the time, money, and discipline that it takes to raise a championship-level athlete, only for a transformer to steal from your child?
     

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    Take it a step further. What if his daughters had a legit shot at a full ride athletic scholarship, but the competition is Bobby Lashley with a bayang?
    Something similar happened in Connecticut a few years back.
    Two biological males didn't make the boy's track team, but they decided to identify as females, and they smoked all of the girls that they ran against.
    View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sHqiG_hrbsc&t=170s

    How would you feel as a girl dad if you invested all of the time, money, and discipline that it takes to raise a championship-level athlete, only for a transformer to steal from your child?
    Black dudes already run faster than everyone else but a nigga putting on a wig and racing against my daughter. OH HELL NO!


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    Are they being ignored now? No, they are being allowed to compete against women.
    I'd argue they are being ignored. The establishment isn't doing anything. It isn't changing, they're just integrating "lunch counters". There is no work in just allowing them to compete.
    No one. Males are the most dominant sex so their division does not need to be protected.
    What's the difference between that and the open division besides the name?
    I never said that transsexuality was fake, you're arguing against a straw man. What I'm saying is that MtF transsexuals have a natural advantage against biological females so at best case it's like biological females are having to compete with someone taking performance enhancing drugs. So it's best to put MtF transsexuals in their own division so that we can ensure fairness in competition.

    Lastly, the comment about "Men with a wig" is about the abuse that can take place when you allow MtF transsexuals to compete against biological females. If we are to accept that a man is a woman when he decides regardless of how long he has been on hormones or if he has had top/bottom surgery then it opens the door for "men with wigs" to compete against women. So you have an average or even subpar male talent dominating female sports all because of "inclusion".
    That goes with the above point. They are being ignored because the establishment isn't actually doing anything. It isn't the transsexual community's fault the people who have the power to make things more fair or mitigate the "men with wigs" factor aren't doing anything.

    As I said, on the surface, it would be a revolt against "men with wigs" but they don't have the power to change to the system either. If the system allows it, it will happen. If the system did not allow it, it wouldn't happen. So what would be the point of revolting against them?
     

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    I'd argue they are being ignored. The establishment isn't doing anything. It isn't changing, they're just integrating "lunch counters". There is no work in just allowing them to compete.

    Anything can be argued but the fact is that PENN State is willing to upset their entire female athletic contingent to appease a White man that wants to swim on the Girl’s team. That is not being ignored.

    What's the difference between that and the open division besides the name?

    I’m the Male division, the speed and roughnest of play will be at the level of biological males. This fact alone eliminates women and men who are transitioning over to women as viable competitors. Open is a division for anyone who isn’t biological male or female.

    So for instance a biological female who is transitioning to a male would play in the open division and not against biological females. They could also play in the male division but the chances they will be good enough is slim to none.

    A biological male who is transitioning to a female couldn’t play against females, they can play against the males but chances of them being strong enough is slim to none so they will play in Open.


    That goes with the above point. They are being ignored because the establishment isn't actually doing anything. It isn't the transsexual community's fault the people who have the power to make things more fair or mitigate the "men with wigs" factor aren't doing anything.

    It is doing something though. It’s basically throwing biological sex out the window appease White males who want to compete in women’s sports. To say that it’s nothing is disinformation. Women are actually losing scholarship opportunities because of this “nothing” you keep claiming.

    As I said, on the surface, it would be a revolt against "men with wigs" but they don't have the power to change to the system either. If the system allows it, it will happen. If the system did not allow it, it wouldn't happen. So what would be the point of revolting against them?
    They actually do because most are white males.
     

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    White males can no longer compete as men, so now they have to live as and compete as women. No talent, no skill, all cheats with many kills. Too many deranged males with extreme hate towards women, identity issues, and/or mental issues opting out of manhood altogether while still retaining their male privileges and male advantages.

    I don't give a F. U. C. K about Liam Thomas and his so-called victory that's akin to an 24-year-old living as a transaged "7-year-old" beating the living crap out of actual 7-year-olds in an elementary fighting competition.

    Pathetic, dysfunctional, demonic, psychotic, feeble, soulless, losing Neanderthals. Ruining everything. White power at all costs, by any means necessary, no shame it's all a wicked game. This is dangerously humiliating as well as an attack on women, especially Black women. Can you imagine these deranged males being allowed to compete against Serena Williams and other Black female athletes? Stealing their opportunities and scholarships? FOH.

    And I hate to say it but sadly, you even have a few delusional Black males and weak males of other races who failed to compete as men following in the same footsteps of these transwomen cave roaches who are trying to destroy women and steal our opportunities and scholarships too. Absolutely disgusting. They are allowing and cheering on this lunacy in schools too. Society is hurting people with this crap.

    Males are stronger and faster than females. Even the weakest, slowest male can compete with the best of females. That's the fact. The end. Enough of this shit.
     

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    White males can no longer compete as men, so now they have to live as and compete as women. No talent, no skill, all cheats with many kills. Too many deranged males with extreme hate towards women, identity issues, and/or mental issues opting out of manhood altogether while still retaining their male privileges and male advantages.

    I don't give a F. U. C. K about Liam Thomas and his so-called victory that's akin to an 24-year-old living as a transaged "7-year-old" beating the living crap out of actual 7-year-olds in an elementary fighting competition. I do, however, care about the damageLiam and company are doing with this crap. More inequality.

    Pathetic, dysfunctional, demonic, psychotic, feeble, soulless, losing Neanderthals. Ruining everything. White power at all costs, by any means necessary, no shame it's all a wicked game. This is dangerously humiliating as well as an attack on women, especially Black women. Can you imagine these deranged males being allowed to compete against Serena Williams and other Black female athletes? Stealing their opportunities and scholarships? FOH.

    And I hate to say it but sadly, you even have a few delusional Black males and weak males of other races who failed to compete as men following in the same footsteps of these transwomen cave roaches who are trying to destroy women and steal our opportunities and scholarships too. Absolutely disgusting. They are allowing and cheering on this lunacy in schools too. Society is hurting people with this crap.

    Males are stronger and faster than females. Even the weakest, slowest male can compete with the best of females. That's the fact. The end. Enough of this shit.
     

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    I’m the Male division, the speed and roughnest of play will be at the level of biological males. This fact alone eliminates women and men who are transitioning over to women as viable competitors. Open is a division for anyone who isn’t biological male or female.

    So for instance a biological female who is transitioning to a male would play in the open division and not against biological females. They could also play in the male division but the chances they will be good enough is slim to none.

    A biological male who is transitioning to a female couldn’t play against females, they can play against the males but chances of them being strong enough is slim to none so they will play in Open.
    I see, so the divisions would be like a videogame: "easy", "moderate", "hard".

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    It is doing something though. It’s basically throwing biological sex out the window appease White males who want to compete in women’s sports. To say that it’s nothing is disinformation. Women are actually losing scholarship opportunities because of this “nothing” you keep claiming.
    I suppose I just don't classify non-obstruction as doing something. Yeah, I can see there may be consequences to it but if you are the bouncer at the club, I walk up with a knife and you don't obstruct my entrance, I'd say you didn't do anything. Some people might get stabbed up as a result.

    To me, it's like their version of integration. I would say the powers that be attempting to implement something like what you described above would be doing something.
    They actually do because most are white males.
    Are they the white males that can change the system? Can we go to the "white men in wigs" committee and get shit done? (I suppose we could back in the 1800s at least, lol)
     
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    I see, so the divisions would be like a videogame: "easy", "moderate", "hard".

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    No, that is not how it would be.

    SexBiological MalesBiological FemalesTranssexuals
    Competes AgainstBiological Males
    FTM Transsexuals
    Biological FemalesMtF Transsexuals
    FtM Transsexuals
    Biological Women

    Every division is the hard division depending on your sex hence why its competition. When you allow MtF Transsexuals to compete against females then it becomes "easy".

    I suppose I just don't see non-obstruction as doing something. It's like their version of integration. I would say the powers that be attempting to implement something like what you described above would be doing something.

    It's not "non-obstruction" when you let a person born with a penis compete on a Female team. It's bending the rules to fit an agenda.

    Are they the white males that can change the system? Can we go to the "white men in wigs" committee and get shit done? (I suppose we could back in the 1800s at least, lol)
    They're changing it enough where they are winning female swimming championships with a whole penis in-between their legs.
     

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    We cannot pretend as if MTF does not have advantages even if it hurts transathlete’s feelings.
    Most of these MTFs are white. You can't tell them nothing. They're "white and they say so." It's bad enough these white males are inherently racist to boot and refuse to publicly admit that they benefit from and help uphold white Supremacy and white privileges.

    They love deflecting, projecting, and accusing us and others of "playing victim", but they also love to crybully and cosplay as "oppressed and persecuted victims without freedom of speech" when shit doesn't go their way or they get bored of their white privileges. It's never enough.

    Whites have an extremely sick, insatiable appetite to be catered to and worshipped at all costs. That's part of why the LGBTQ+ movement, MRA / PUA / Red Pill / MGTOW / Incel movements, the Blue Lives Matter movement, the "forgotten" and "unheard" racist whites and their white supremacist movements, being $5 Indian, crying about classism and economic anxiety, Catholicism, Scientology, Satanism, their terrible adoption of Christianity and Judaism, being a racist war-stricken refugee, and such are really wonderful pet projects for them.

    These growing, massive side projects all help them supplement their overall racist white power and wealth that they have over the world while they can also claim "poor misunderstood oppressed victim status."

    But what does that mean if you’re training to compete against Terry Crews with a wig on? Ain’t enough training in the world to overcome that.
    Telling a girl that all she has to do is train her butt off to physically compete against a Terry Crews with or without a wig on, is like telling a working class Black person to work hard enough and get enough bootstraps and they too can become the next Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk with hundreds of billions of dollars to their name. It's just not realistic and downright insulting.

    We live in a world where men are collectively and biologically stronger than women, and where Black people are collectively kept poor and under a demonic system of white Supremacy that will find various ways to sabotage us and prevent us from surpassing everyone else collectively. Look at history, the present, and facts and don't ever let them erase and twist them.

    I think the subtext is that he is going to be on the sidelines ready to beat Terry Crews up if he playing too rough.
    With all of these batshit lunatics going on psychotic "Die Cis Scum Die" rampages and hellraising attacks along with them using the word "TERF" as a violent slur like the word "b*tch", we're definitely going to need the Dewalt Power Tool kits to get some work done.

    This hurts all sports across the board. Black women in sports tend to do the best but even a black woman can't outcompete a white man. This is not fair at all and I am 100% against this. They are erasing women. Actual women.
    They know about this fact very well. Believe me, this is all very strategic and they will destroy society and any remaining order in this world to ensure that all Black people permanently stay at the bottom. And that’s exactly why we keep seeing thinly veiled racists and some delusional Black people (especially on Twitter) continuing to wrongfully compare the strength and bone density of Black women to the strength and bone density of white men in order to justify why men cosplaying as women should compete with women in sports and stay in women's shelters. They are resorting to scientific racism and they are using racist, white supremacist rhetoric as well as misogynoir to justify this fuckery. All to rig the game because they can't actually win in a fair world. Unforgivable and shameful.

    Women co-signed & "yassss queen"ed this foolishness, let the women deal with it.
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    While there were some dumbass Shea Butter Twitter folks hyping this mess up and being pick mes for males in dresses, it was mostly dumbass white bishes, dumbass white libfems, Hollyweird and powerful LGBT individuals, the evil ass media and news outlets, the likes of tranny loving Malik Yoba, and nasty ass suspect ass white male "liberals" parading this fuckery like no tomorrow. Hell, they are still unapologetically cheering on this disorder and fuckery and will attack anyone (especially female) and the likes of JK Rowling and Dave Chappelle who call them out.
    This is such an easy fix the trans person should be required to live 5 years as that gender before competing. If the transition happens before puberty there is no problem. But if after they need to take it on a case by case basis.
    No. We cannot budge. That's like including certain non-FBA individuals in our FBA Reparations claim on a case by case basis. If you let in 1, you will eventually let in all of them. And every white and pale Tom, Dick, and Harry with a hotep hat and a Black Lives Matter T-Shirt with their Black abuela's picture on the back will be claiming $5 FBA status. If you don't have a parent (mother or father) who is FBA, then you are not FBA and will never be FBA. And no, we won't redefine what FBA is either to make anyone else comfortable. The definition remains firm. Period.

    TPTB are promoting transgenderism to also destroy barriers in this society for the worst. So that we can live in a feel good, post-racial world where anyone can be black, anyone can be a woman, anyone can be a child, transgender, transdisabled, transage or pedophile MAPS, transracial, transspecies, transethnic, transhuman, and anyone can claim oppression or whatever else. And if anyone can be Black or a woman, then what will stop non-Black opportunists from falsely claiming to be a transracial FBA Black man or a women (if male) for a check and opportunities? In such a world, will we still have a valid claim, or will the waters be muddied? We cannot allow this.

    There is a very DANGEROUS PRECEDENT and TERRITORY AHEAD if society doesn't stop this shit now.

    What is a lie, and what is a fact? How is down up when up is down? Is this really what lily white ass John Lennon was envisioning when he made the philosophical song "Imagine"?

    Black folks should just sit back and get the popcorn ready with this.
    Black women do need to bow out Simone Biles style and protest against this racist system and transmaniac BS. Other women of other races will need to follow suit to at least protest against the transgender lunacy in sports. Stop participating in this sick rigged game.
     

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    Why do you think them (subordinate group) advocating for a separate division would work when the majority (dominant group) could just ignore them?

    Who is barred from the male division?

    On the surface.

    Males playing dress-up is just an idea that you have about transsexuals. The reality is transsexuality is a real thing that exists in the world. You can't stop people from wanting to compete and we didn't have the entirety mankind figured out when the divisions were created. We can and often do revolt against new information, but we just limit ourselves. We created the divisions so we have the power to adapt them to us rather than restrain what we learn about ourselves to them.

    I have no doubt people would revolt against "males dressing up" but the result will eventually be a restructuring of the established order. After which, males are still going to "dress-up" and some will compete against females.
    And they can't stop women with some damn sense from not wanting to compete with their sorry asses. I know you're a Black same-gender loving man, but I highly advise that you rethink your position and not cape for the LGBT as whole, no, not like this. I'm seeing too many Shea Butter girls and Black LGBT caping for this nonsense and it needs to stop.

    There's a serious finesse going on and we Black people and any non-Black women cannot be okay with this. This will have negative effects on us and the future. These are mostly privileged white males playing make believe and dress up, many of them claiming to be "oppressed translesbians" and remixing what it means to be male and female via laws, rules, intimidation, threats, redefinitions, etc. at everyone's expense and TPTB are spearheading this. Powerful white LGBT donors like rapist racist Ed Buck and Jimbo the Bimbo "Jennifer" Pritzker are working alongside of other TPTB to launch this attack on society at large for fun and for unlimited power and control.

    Also here's a fun fact about the Transwoman Mr. Pritzer who is still very much a part of the "Good Ole Boys Club":

    "Pritzer is a lifelong Republican, and major donor to candidates and organizations such as the NRA, John McCain, and Mitt Romney."

    How is Pritzer different from the likes of Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner, Joe Rogan, Ben Sharpio, Elon Musk, Clint Eastwood, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Vince Vaughn, Mel Gibson, Jeff Bezos, Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, Ron DeSantis, and millions more white males again? They all may have different in political ideologies or identify differently, but they still operate the same and will have no problem oppressing all of us and using Black Diamond and Silks and Black LGBT people to push their anti-Black, pro-white agendas.

    I'd argue they are being ignored. The establishment isn't doing anything. It isn't changing, they're just integrating "lunch counters". There is no work in just allowing them to compete.

    What's the difference between that and the open division besides the name?

    That goes with the above point. They are being ignored because the establishment isn't actually doing anything. It isn't the transsexual community's fault the people who have the power to make things more fair or mitigate the "men with wigs" factor aren't doing anything.

    As I said, on the surface, it would be a revolt against "men with wigs" but they don't have the power to change to the system either. If the system allows it, it will happen. If the system did not allow it, it wouldn't happen. So what would be the point of revolting against them?
    They are not being ignored. They are in fact being completely catered to like no other on some abusive scammer Jesse "Jessica" Yaniv type shit at our expense while we are not just being ignored, but we are being silenced, shamed, intimidated, attacked, and threatened by these lunatics, their allies, and the support system they paid for and control (also known as the media and politicians). Maybe transmen and Black trans are getting ignored. However, that should not mean that their rights (or anyone else's rights or privileges) should come at the expense of our rights and well-being.

    And they also keep comparing the struggles of trans athletes to Black racism and our Civil Rights struggles and I'm sick of it. Yes, there were Black LGBT people in the Civil Rights movement, but most of them were still Black first.

    Also, today I learned that the Stonewall movement was actually an anti-Black racist riot, which targeted and attacked Black LGBT people, disguised as a riot that targeted all LGBT people. Y'all see how they lie and rewrite our history?!

    The establishment is set to keep the status quo and prevent real, positive change for everyone (especially Black people). They didn't want to give out too many stimulus checks because that would've helped us Black people too. They will continue to apply a half-assed "one size fits all" solution to our problems that doesn’t upset the status quo like the Child Tax Credit BS or $1000 Baby Bonds for everyone BS and call it a day until shit inevitably changes.

    Many white trans "women" are also in IT / tech industries and are helping to censor our voices and concerns about how their rights and privileges are negatively affecting our rights, spaces, and lives. See racist ass Reddit and how they removed sane subreddits like Gender Critical, and how the trans and their zombie allies threatened the life of that Super Straight teenage dude on TikTok.

    No one is stopping these transpeople from making and starting their own shit. And since Jennifer Pritzer and other white LGBT got money to throw around to promote their agendas, they need to also use that money to start sports competitions for trans. But they don't want to because they want to infiltrate themselves in spaces not meant for them, they want to force people to date them and deny reality, they want people to adopt ideologies not meant for human consumption, they want forced acceptance and forced worship from everyone and they want everyone to cater to their delusions. It's a fetish in a warped lifestyle for many of them and a lot of them get off on "chestfeeding" infants and shit like that. They won't take no for an answer in true rapist fashion.
     

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    No, that is not how it would be.

    SexBiological MalesBiological FemalesTranssexuals
    Competes AgainstBiological Males
    FTM Transsexuals
    Biological FemalesMtF Transsexuals
    FtM Transsexuals
    Biological Women

    Every division is the hard division depending on your sex hence why its competition. When you allow MtF Transsexuals to compete against females then it becomes "easy".
    That's why the problem exists. Divisions can't be based on sex/gender anymore. That was just an easy way to do it, likely to have always left some people out. It doesn't actually represent humanity today and I doubt it ever truly did nor will it in the future. A new metric must be developed at some point.

    I was merely giving a random name to an objective scope. Everyone's actually competing at their peaks (like lightweight, welterweight, heavyweight).
    It's not "non-obstruction" when you let a person born with a penis compete on a Female team. It's bending the rules to fit an agenda.
    I understand your prospective.
     

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    With all of these batshit lunatics going on psychotic "Die Cis Scum Die" rampages and hellraising attacks along with them using the word "TERF" as a violent slur like the word "b*tch", we're definitely going to need the Dewalt Power Tool kits to get some work done
    They're on sell right now too.

    But these people are lunatics but they won't step to us. They will definitely call the race soldiers on us though.
     

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    And they can't stop women with some damn sense from not wanting to compete with their sorry asses. I know you're a Black same-gender loving man, but I highly advise that you rethink your position and not cape for the LGBT as whole, no, not like this. I'm seeing too many Shea Butter girls and Black LGBT caping for this nonsense and it needs to stop.

    There's a serious finesse going on and we Black people and any non-Black women cannot be okay with this. This will have negative effects on us and the future. These are mostly privileged white males playing make believe and dress up, many of them claiming to be "oppressed translesbians" and remixing what it means to be male and female via laws, rules, intimidation, threats, redefinitions, etc. at everyone's expense and TPTB are spearheading this. Powerful white LGBT donors like rapist racist Ed Buck and Jimbo the Bimbo "Jennifer" Pritzker are working alongside of other TPTB to launch this attack on society at large for fun and for unlimited power and control.

    Also here's a fun fact about the Transwoman Mr. Pritzer who is still very much a part of the "Good Ole Boys Club":

    "Pritzer is a lifelong Republican, and major donor to candidates and organizations such as the NRA, John McCain, and Mitt Romney."

    How is Pritzer different from the likes of Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner, Joe Rogan, Ben Sharpio, Elon Musk, Clint Eastwood, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Vince Vaughn, Mel Gibson, Jeff Bezos, Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, Ron DeSantis, and millions more white males again? They all may have different in political ideologies or identify differently, but they still operate the same and will have no problem oppressing all of us and using Black Diamond and Silks and Black LGBT people to push their anti-Black, pro-white agendas.


    They are not being ignored. They are in fact being completely catered to like no other on some abusive scammer Jesse "Jessica" Yaniv type shit at our expense while we are not just being ignored, but we are being silenced, shamed, intimidated, attacked, and threatened by these lunatics, their allies, and the support system they paid for and control (also known as the media and politicians). Maybe transmen and Black trans are getting ignored. However, that should not mean that their rights (or anyone else's rights or privileges) should come at the expense of our rights and well-being.

    And they also keep comparing the struggles of trans athletes to Black racism and our Civil Rights struggles and I'm sick of it. Yes, there were Black LGBT people in the Civil Rights movement, but most of them were still Black first.

    Also, today I learned that the Stonewall movement was actually an anti-Black racist riot, which targeted and attacked Black LGBT people, disguised as a riot that targeted all LGBT people. Y'all see how they lie and rewrite our history?!

    The establishment is set to keep the status quo and prevent real, positive change for everyone (especially Black people). They didn't want to give out too many stimulus checks because that would've helped us Black people too. They will continue to apply a half-assed "one size fits all" solution to our problems that doesn’t upset the status quo like the Child Tax Credit BS or $1000 Baby Bonds for everyone BS and call it a day until shit inevitably changes.

    Many white trans "women" are also in IT / tech industries and are helping to censor our voices and concerns about how their rights and privileges are negatively affecting our rights, spaces, and lives. See racist ass Reddit and how they removed sane subreddits like Gender Critical, and how the trans and their zombie allies threatened the life of that Super Straight teenage dude on TikTok.

    No one is stopping these transpeople from making and starting their own shit. And since Jennifer Pritzer and other white LGBT got money to throw around to promote their agendas, they need to also use that money to start sports competitions for trans. But they don't want to because they want to infiltrate themselves in spaces not meant for them, they want to force people to date them and deny reality, they want people to adopt ideologies not meant for human consumption, they want forced acceptance and forced worship from everyone and they want everyone to cater to their delusions. It's a fetish in a warped lifestyle for many of them and a lot of them get off on "chestfeeding" infants and shit like that. They won't take no for an answer in true rapist fashion.
    Where have I caked for anyone?

    As a black same gender loving black man, I can see things that you cannot just like as a black woman you can see some things that I cannot. This is being treated as a black and white issue in which we have all the information/all possible perspectives or the only that matters. From my perspective, that's exactly what trips us up. The opposition is going to use whatever is available. They count on us fighting it with myopic vision.

    My position is our established norms have to and will adapt to us (humanity) in our journey of self-discovery and not the other way around. Of course, I can see how it may look like I'm caping for a specific group but that isn't explicitly accurate.
     

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    Lia Thomas has become the first transgender athlete to win a National Collegiate Athletic Association swimming championship - with her controversial victory attracting a mixed reception.

    The UPenn swimmer, 22, won the 500 yard freestyle in Atlanta in a time of 4 minutes, 33.24 seconds on Thursday evening.

    Afterwards, the crowd were notably more enthusiastic when cheering for the woman who'd come second place - Emma Weyant, of the University of Virginia. She swam 4:34.99.

    While Thomas was given some cheers, boos could also be heard ringing out throughout the spectator stands, as she continues to face allegations that going through male puberty has given her an unfair advantage over her rivals.

    'I try to ignore it as much as I can, I try to focus on my swimming what I need to do to get ready for my races and I just try to block out everything else,' said Thomas after the race, when asked by ESPN about the response.

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    • Thomas, 22, became on Thursday night the first transgender athlete to be crowned National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) champion
    • The transgender swimmer won her 500 yard freestyle, representing the University of Pennsylvania, in 4 minutes 33:24 seconds
    • Her victory was greeted with a notable lack of cheers in the stands, amid the controversy: she competed in men's competition until 2019
    • On the podium, Thomas was given the medal amid boos and some cheers: by contrast, the second placed competitor was given a huge cheer at her crowning
    • Thomas told ESPN after the race that she tried to drown out the controversy and focus on her swimming
    What kind of super retarded super fuckery is this???
     

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    That's why the problem exists. Divisions can't be based on sex/gender anymore. That was just an easy way to do it, likely to have always left some people out. It doesn't actually represent humanity today and I doubt it ever truly did nor will it in the future. A new metric must be developed at some point.

    I was merely giving a random name to an objective scope. Everyone's actually competing at their peaks (like lightweight, welterweight, heavyweight).
    No, that is NOT why the problem exists. The problem exists because there are MtF transsexuals who cross between divisions and absolutely dominate female athletes.

    There's a reason why there is no issue with Female to Male transsexuals in Male sports, it's because THEY CANNOT COMPETE. There is no privilege to be gained when a Female transitions to Male because biologically she is a woman and will always be physically inferior to biological males.

    But biological males transitioning over to Female have a huge advantage over biological females which if becomes common place will erase biological Females from competition. Not only that, just imagine the damage that women will take in combat sports fighting against opponents who are biological males.

    Sex is an objective fact. The physical differences between the sexes are objective fact. We can still be mindful that people may feel like they are born in the wrong body without pretending like sex doesn't exist.
     

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    That's why the problem exists. Divisions can't be based on sex/gender anymore. That was just an easy way to do it, likely to have always left some people out. It doesn't actually represent humanity today and I doubt it ever truly did nor will it in the future. A new metric must be developed at some point.

    I was merely giving a random name to an objective scope. Everyone's actually competing at their peaks (like lightweight, welterweight, heavyweight).

    I understand your prospective.
    In addition...

    Duke Law did a study comparing The Absolute Best Woman in the world against the Best Boys under 18 years of age. The Best BOYS outperformed the World's Best Woman in every single activity.


    TABLE 1 – World’s Best Woman v. Under 18 Boys
    EventBest Women’s ResultBest Boys' Result# of Boys Outperforming
    100 Meters10.7110.15124+
    200 Meters21.7720.51182
    400 Meters49.4645.38285
    800 Meters1:55.16*1:46.3201+
    1500 Meters3:56.143:37.43101+
    3000 Meters8:23.147:38.9030
    5000 Meters14:18.3712:55.5815
    High Jump2.06 meters2.25 meters28
    Pole Vault4.91 meters5.31 meters10
    Long Jump7.13 meters7.88 meters74
    Triple Jump14.96 meters17.30 meters47

    The number of men and boys beating the world’s best women in the 100 and 400 meters is far from the exception. It’s the rule. To demonstrate this, we compared the top women’s results to the boys’ and men’s results across multiple standard track and field events, just for the single year 2017. Our data are drawn from the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) website which provides complete, worldwide results for individuals and events, including on an annual and an all-time basis.

    We have limited the analysis to those events where a direct performance comparison could be made. For instance, we included the 100 meters because both males and females compete over exactly the same distance; but we excluded the shot put because males and females use a differently weighted shot.

    TABLE 1 compares the number of boys - males under the age of 18 - whose results in each event in 2017 would rank them above the single very best elite “senior” woman that year. (In elite sport, “senior” simply means “adult.” The best “senior” athletes are the world’s best athletes.)


    The World's Best Woman can't even compete with adolescent boys but you want grown men to be able to compete against women because sex is supposedly not a factor?

    That's "I'm Gay and I Say So" talk.
     
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    But what does that mean if you’re training to compete against Terry Crews with a wig on? Ain’t enough training in the world to overcome that.
    Not trying to be funny but I meant physically and physiologically. I have already explained to my daughters that boys dont wear dresses or carry purses.Her training has already begun.
     

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    No, that is NOT why the problem exists. The problem exists because there are MtF transsexuals who cross between divisions and absolutely dominate female athletes.
    The problem is we do not want to modify tradition to accommodate reality. We do not want to adapt to new information. Dividing by sex worked well enough in the past, but obviously it's not working anymore. The cat's not going back in the bag, adapt.
    We can still be mindful that people may feel like they are born in the wrong body without pretending like sex doesn't exist.
    That's basically what I've been saying the whole time. Adapt. Develop a new metric for divisions.
    The World's Best Woman can't even compete with adolescent boys but you want grown men to be able to compete against women because sex is supposedly not a factor?

    That's "I'm Gay and I Say So" talk.
    You're arguing against points I've never made. More like "I am gay and I never said so" silence.
     
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    That's basically what I've been saying the whole time. Adapt. Develop a new metric for divisions
    We don’t need a new metric for divisions, we just need a division that includes the new genders. Biological Females are going to need a protected division to ensure they are not competing against Biological males (On estrogen or not). The disparity between male and female athletes is too wide to not divide based on sex.
     

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    We don’t need a new metric for divisions, we just need a division that includes the new genders. Biological Females are going to need a protected division to ensure they are not competing against Biological males (On estrogen or not). The disparity between male and female athletes is too wide to not divide based on sex.
    There is probably a better way which doesn't involve women being subject to accusations of being male.
     

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    There is probably a better way which doesn't involve women being subject to accusations of being male.
    Ok to minimize opportunities for people to be pedantic.

    Human beings born with a vagina are physically weaker than human beings born with penises.

    Therefore, in athletic competitions, we should not allow humans born with penises to compete against humans born with vaginas.

    If any human being wants to transfer from a human born with a penis to a human with a vagina, it’s fine but that human canmot compete against humans with vaginas because penis bearers are physically stronger.
     

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    Ok to minimize opportunities for people to be pedantic.

    Human beings born with a vagina are physically weaker than human beings born with penises.

    Therefore, in athletic competitions, we should not allow humans born with penises to compete against humans born with vaginas.

    If any human being wants to transfer from a human born with a penis to a human with a vagina, it’s fine but that human canmot compete against humans with vaginas because penis bearers are physically stronger.
    If the current method was good enough by itself, this conversation would not exist anywhere. Humans are still evolving and the current method is showing cracks as evident by this very conversation. We're only at the beginning of this debate. Maybe adding gender divisions is the best that we can do at the moment. That's fine.

    I just see the beginnings of a pattern. There is a spectrum that is genderless. Just like there is a spectrum of sexuality. We know now that people are born in between the sexes. We know now that people fall somewhere in between the absolute binary of sexuality. I think it better suits us to create models modeled after reality. Humanity is not going to get less complicated.
     

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    If the current method was good enough by itself, this conversation would not exist anywhere. Humans are still evolving and the current method is showing cracks as evident by this very conversation. We're only at the beginning of this debate. Maybe adding gender divisions is the best that we can do at the moment. That's fine.

    I just see the beginnings of a pattern. There is a spectrum that is genderless. Just like there is a spectrum of sexuality. We know now that people are born in between the sexes. We know now that people fall somewhere in between the absolute binary of sexuality. I think it better suits us to create models modeled after reality. Humanity is not going to get less complicated.
    You conveniently keep ignoring that Males are stronger and faster than Females which is why there is sex based separation in sports. Without sex based separation, all sports would be Male dominated because the world’s best Female is equivalent to High School level Males.

    So yes, we need to expand the divisions to be more inclusive but to tear it all down to fit an LGBT agenda is ludicrous. Are there people born in between Male and Female? Absolutely. But how do they get on earth? By a Male and Female combining a sperm and egg…nature clearly defines two different forms of Homo-sapiens who can come together and create more Homo sapiens.

    So do we need to evolve? Yes! But we can do that by making another division that allows people that don’t fall cleanly between Male or Female to compete. You say this is not good enough but offer no solutions. You just want us to adopt the LGBT standpoint or we’re just being boneheads.
     
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    Most of these MTFs are white. You can't tell them nothing. They're "white and they say so." It's bad enough these white males are inherently racist to boot and refuse to publicly admit that they benefit from and help uphold white Supremacy and white privileges.

    They love deflecting, projecting, and accusing us and others of "playing victim", but they also love to crybully and cosplay as "oppressed and persecuted victims without freedom of speech" when shit doesn't go their way or they get bored of their white privileges. It's never enough.

    Whites have an extremely sick, insatiable appetite to be catered to and worshipped at all costs. That's part of why the LGBTQ+ movement, MRA / PUA / Red Pill / MGTOW / Incel movements, the Blue Lives Matter movement, the "forgotten" and "unheard" racist whites and their white supremacist movements, being $5 Indian, crying about classism and economic anxiety, Catholicism, Scientology, Satanism, their terrible adoption of Christianity and Judaism, being a racist war-stricken refugee, and such are really wonderful pet projects for them.

    These growing, massive side projects all help them supplement their overall racist white power and wealth that they have over the world while they can also claim "poor misunderstood oppressed victim status
    You know what’s truly sad in all of this? We have a Black man on here advocating for White men to be able to trample on the rights of others because he shares a commonality in them being LGBT.

    It is why being B1 is a prerequisite, if you put anything before your Blackness, you are useless to us as a society. It will have you sleeping next to the enemy blissfully unaware until the moment the snake decides to show its fangs.

    If White men weren't LGBT we wouldn’t be hearing a word about it. It’s also why they are able to bogart themselves into conversation and culture because it is white males doing it.
     

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    Most of these MTFs are white. You can't tell them nothing. They're "white and they say so." It's bad enough these white males are inherently racist to boot and refuse to publicly admit that they benefit from and help uphold white Supremacy and white privileges.

    They love deflecting, projecting, and accusing us and others of "playing victim", but they also love to crybully and cosplay as "oppressed and persecuted victims without freedom of speech" when shit doesn't go their way or they get bored of their white privileges. It's never enough.

    Whites have an extremely sick, insatiable appetite to be catered to and worshipped at all costs. That's part of why the LGBTQ+ movement, MRA / PUA / Red Pill / MGTOW / Incel movements, the Blue Lives Matter movement, the "forgotten" and "unheard" racist whites and their white supremacist movements, being $5 Indian, crying about classism and economic anxiety, Catholicism, Scientology, Satanism, their terrible adoption of Christianity and Judaism, being a racist war-stricken refugee, and such are really wonderful pet projects for them.

    These growing, massive side projects all help them supplement their overall racist white power and wealth that they have over the world while they can also claim "poor misunderstood oppressed victim status."


    Telling a girl that all she has to do is train her butt off to physically compete against a Terry Crews with or without a wig on, is like telling a working class Black person to work hard enough and get enough bootstraps and they too can become the next Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk with hundreds of billions of dollars to their name. It's just not realistic and downright insulting.

    We live in a world where men are collectively and biologically stronger than women, and where Black people are collectively kept poor and under a demonic system of white Supremacy that will find various ways to sabotage us and prevent us from surpassing everyone else collectively. Look at history, the present, and facts and don't ever let them erase and twist them.


    With all of these batshit lunatics going on psychotic "Die Cis Scum Die" rampages and hellraising attacks along with them using the word "TERF" as a violent slur like the word "b*tch", we're definitely going to need the Dewalt Power Tool kits to get some work done.


    They know about this fact very well. Believe me, this is all very strategic and they will destroy society and any remaining order in this world to ensure that all Black people permanently stay at the bottom. And that’s exactly why we keep seeing thinly veiled racists and some delusional Black people (especially on Twitter) continuing to wrongfully compare the strength and bone density of Black women to the strength and bone density of white men in order to justify why men cosplaying as women should compete with women in sports and stay in women's shelters. They are resorting to scientific racism and they are using racist, white supremacist rhetoric as well as misogynoir to justify this fuckery. All to rig the game because they can't actually win in a fair world. Unforgivable and shameful.


    While there were some dumbass Shea Butter Twitter folks hyping this mess up and being pick mes for males in dresses, it was mostly dumbass white bishes, dumbass white libfems, Hollyweird and powerful LGBT individuals, the evil ass media and news outlets, the likes of tranny loving Malik Yoba, and nasty ass suspect ass white male "liberals" parading this fuckery like no tomorrow. Hell, they are still unapologetically cheering on this disorder and fuckery and will attack anyone (especially female) and the likes of JK Rowling and Dave Chappelle who call them out.

    No. We cannot budge. That's like including certain non-FBA individuals in our FBA Reparations claim on a case by case basis. If you let in 1, you will eventually let in all of them. And every white and pale Tom, Dick, and Harry with a hotep hat and a Black Lives Matter T-Shirt with their Black abuela's picture on the back will be claiming $5 FBA status. If you don't have a parent (mother or father) who is FBA, then you are not FBA and will never be FBA. And no, we won't redefine what FBA is either to make anyone else comfortable. The definition remains firm. Period.

    TPTB are promoting transgenderism to also destroy barriers in this society for the worst. So that we can live in a feel good, post-racial world where anyone can be black, anyone can be a woman, anyone can be a child, transgender, transdisabled, transage or pedophile MAPS, transracial, transspecies, transethnic, transhuman, and anyone can claim oppression or whatever else. And if anyone can be Black or a woman, then what will stop non-Black opportunists from falsely claiming to be a transracial FBA Black man or a women (if male) for a check and opportunities? In such a world, will we still have a valid claim, or will the waters be muddied? We cannot allow this.

    There is a very DANGEROUS PRECEDENT and TERRITORY AHEAD if society doesn't stop this shit now.

    What is a lie, and what is a fact? How is down up when up is down? Is this really what lily white ass John Lennon was envisioning when he made the philosophical song "Imagine"?


    Black women do need to bow out Simone Biles style and protest against this racist system and transmaniac BS. Other women of other races will need to follow suit to at least protest against the transgender lunacy in sports. Stop participating in this sick rigged game.
    Strongly disagree gender is a construct that determines your whole life. This is unstoppable people have the choice now the technology is there and the alternative is suicide. So we need to find ways to deal with it and make it fair.
     

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    It’s similar to what happened to us as Black Americans. We thought we were being good allies in caping for others and all we were doing was advocating for our destruction. When you think about the fact that a high school boys basketball team can give a WNBA team a run for their money, while an NCAA team will outright destroy them, women are basically pushing for their erasure.

    Full grown males putting on wigs and competing with women will make success in competition nearly impossible for them.
    I don't care what HE identifies as, HE'S still a man & should be competing as such! There's NOT gonna be many women, if any, that'll beat HIM, because HE'S A DAMN MAN! 💯🤷🏽‍♀️
     

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    Strongly disagree gender is a construct that determines your whole life. This is unstoppable people have the choice now the technology is there and the alternative is suicide. So we need to find ways to deal with it and make it fair.
    Gender may be a social construct but Sex is from the universe and no surgery til this day can change your sex. If a MTF gets their penis removed and gets the simulated vagina, they have to use the splint in their neovag daily why? Because their body sees a hole and thinks “there’s a wound here, let’s patch it up”. Their body does not recognize the hole as a vagina because the body was programmed from the universe as a Male.

    That’s why allowing MTFs to compete against women is ridiculous because their body is always going to be Male no matter what. The second they stop taking drugs to reverse their natural bodily function, their male privilege will surface quickly as it is the default state.