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The Haze Of Our Lives said:

Yo can't tell me this is fair. This is some real BS, so this MF failed at being a man so he does this BS switch and boom now he is beating "Real Women" in the pool now? And that is just fine in women's sports now? There needs to be a class for these types. Call it the He/She Class.

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The SHEM class.

Jim Carey started this 💩 way back! I thought it was funny then, NOT A DAMN THING FUNNY NOW! 🤬

Not going through all the pages, I read as much as I could before I got tired of the back and forth (now I know how y'all feel reading my back and forth with people).

Anyway, 'she' wouldn't even qualify for Division III NCAA for the event:

Division III mind you. Last place in the B heat of Division 1 final was 4:16. Just saying.

Real talk. Democrats bending over backwards with all this support is about money. Back in 2008, Obama needed money. The DNC was owned by the Clintons and they weren't going to give him money as they were salty he beat Hillary. Hollywood, organized by Geffen, gay man, made a deal with Obama. They'd send him tens of millions of dollars as long as he pushed LBGTQ in all institutions, military, marriage, etc.

The fact is most of the voting Dems will not support the trans movement. They are okay with gay marriage. But men playing women's sports? Nah, overwhelming majority isn't. That's just how it is. And once the masses stop supporting it, it won't happen. You got millions of Democrat union members in Ohio, Michigan, vote Dems every 4 years because Dems protect unions, they are not for it. You got Irish in south Boston, Italians in Bensonhurst, blue collar, vote Dems every presidential election. They don't support it.

I got a couple gay friends. I don't know if they think like most gays, but to them, they aren't comfortable with the present climate of trans pushing the envelope. They just want to be able to get married, white picket fence house in the burbs, with a couple adopted kids maybe and not be physically threatened in doing so. That was what they strived for. These guys are white. Maybe black gays think a bit differently, don't know. Anyway, they have said there was always a bit of 'tension' between 'traditional gays' and trans. But if they feel if they don't publicly support the trans movement, they will lose hard fought gains and internally its off code to publicly criticize any LBGTQ sector. The one I know best, is married in Cali and his fear is that there will be a reversal due to things like this. He wouldn't want his adopted daughter to lose an athletic scholarship to a trans male.

The brother on here talked about society should adjust to the new reality. Well, it doesnt' have to. Depends on the reality. There are some realities society will likely not adjust to. Child pornography is one. It's bigger than we think. It's a reality. Society will never adjust to it. I am not equating the trans thing to child pornography, just giving an example of something that is a new reality.

White society faked like it adjusted to the new reality of blacks having the right to vote, civil rights and all that. They never did. They just changed the way they operated. That's an opposite example of a good, new reality that whites still haven't adjusted to. Had it happened in earnest, the reparations movement wouldn't get off the ground.

The one group who deep down will never, ever accept the trans movement are biologically born women. It's never discussed openly but they are the first ones to say they are not women. If I had a daughter, she's not competing with them. Don't care how it sounds, she wouldn't. Be a woman all you want even though you are born as a man. Knock yourself out. But I for one don't want to adjust sports, and other facets of society for it.

This is going to come off hella effed up to gays/trans community maybe but I have to deal with hypocrisy and logic, etc.
In LA, California these days, if as a man you wake up one morning and say you are now a woman. It's accepted socially. Even legally in some areas if you are not accommodated. The state will recognize that on forms, etc. But if any man is arrested and says "er..I'm a woman...trans' The state prison, which is part of the state of California system will NOT immediately recognize you as a woman. You will be 'evaluated'. Outside the prison door, the state accepts you just by saying so but not if you are convicted? Make that make sense.

I am NOT equating trans with mental health although the following example will seem like it. I am just addressing lack of logic seemingly. Maybe there is logic in there. Same example. A man says he's a woman, he's a woman. He may have emotional issues dealing with how society treats 'her', etc. which is fairly common.

Now, there are people in mental institutions who don't pose a threat to themselves or others who believe they are...take your pick: Jesus, Napoleon. Alien from another planet or dimension. People who say they came from the past in a time machine. And are placed in a mental asylum. These people can pass a lie detector test because they genuinely believe they are Jesus or whomever. You can have such people committed as a parent or family member. But....and you know where I'm going with this, not if you say you are woman.

I hope he’s persuaded to spend his time doing something more constructive and positive for everyone involved.

GwynShivers said:

The SHEM class.

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Sovereign said:

When it gets to that point it will be regulated.

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Weird ass white people will do anything for attention. No matter how humiliating it gets.

I still can't believe this happened. I forgot about it until I spotted the thread. What a disgrace. Nothing like slapping women in sports right in the face. The picture is clear here. They are saying even men are better than women at being women.

Every time I see this thread get bumped I feel ill. 🤢☠

sourgrapes said:

I still can't believe this happened. I forgot about it until I spotted the thread. What a disgrace. Nothing like slapping women in sports right in the face. The picture is clear here. They are saying even men are better than women at being women.

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That's what they want you to think & what they want to be the new normal.
Until you produce a baby, have monthly menstruation, make breast milk, born with a vagina or grow breasts without hormones, YOU'RE JUST A DUDE TRYING TO BE A LADY, MANNN!

Sovereign said:

Lia Thomas has become the first transgender athlete to win a National Collegiate Athletic Association swimming championship - with her controversial victory attracting a mixed reception.

The UPenn swimmer, 22, won the 500 yard freestyle in Atlanta in a time of 4 minutes, 33.24 seconds on Thursday evening.

Afterwards, the crowd were notably more enthusiastic when cheering for the woman who'd come second place - Emma Weyant, of the University of Virginia. She swam 4:34.99.

While Thomas was given some cheers, boos could also be heard ringing out throughout the spectator stands, as she continues to face allegations that going through male puberty has given her an unfair advantage over her rivals.

'I try to ignore it as much as I can, I try to focus on my swimming what I need to do to get ready for my races and I just try to block out everything else,' said Thomas after the race, when asked by ESPN about the response.

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• Thomas, 22, became on Thursday night the first transgender athlete to be crowned National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) champion
• The transgender swimmer won her 500 yard freestyle, representing the University of Pennsylvania, in 4 minutes 33:24 seconds
• Her victory was greeted with a notable lack of cheers in the stands, amid the controversy: she competed in men's competition until 2019
• On the podium, Thomas was given the medal amid boos and some cheers: by contrast, the second placed competitor was given a huge cheer at her crowning
• Thomas told ESPN after the race that she tried to drown out the controversy and focus on her swimming

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So... a biological man... (basically) pretending to be a woman... is competing against biological women... and people thinks that because he (and that's what he is) lives as a woman, it's fair and OK for him to compete against actual women??? Am I missing something???

GwynShivers said:

That's what they want you to think & what they want to be the new normal.
Until you produce a baby, have monthly menstruation, make breast milk, born with a vagina or grow breasts without hormones, YOU'RE JUST A DUDE TRYING TO BE A LADY, MANNN!

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You know the website HealthLine? I think that is what it is called. They straight up tell people NOTHING about pregnancy is feminine. It is just all pissing me off. They want to erase women, especially black women.